10 & 12 on a redeye in economy - give me all your tips!

[Anonymous]

NP here: I get it about the kids being better when they are not next to you. Even better, mine 14 and 11, fight all the time except when they are on a flight, sitting together, away from parents.

I'm headed in the other direction this summer and will let my daughter go to the expensive Hudson News and get flight snacks. When in the EU, we'll do the same before coming back. She's not one to eat fast or a lot so they last. She looses interest in screens so she'll also pack herself some activities and I always have a apck of cards with me. You never know. I'm been on a tarmac for hours twice in my flying career and i'm not a frequent flyer.

[Anonymous]

How do you know in advance if you'll have a screen in seat option v's your own device?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you know in advance if you'll have a screen in seat option v's your own device?

I’m the England poster. British Airways has the screens in the headrests. I think you just need to check with the airline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Melatonin gummies and devices

You sound….

No. Don’t drug your kids (chemically or electronically).

Bring games they can play together, like card games. Or with a notepad (tic tac tie, hangman). There are also madlibs or puzzle books (like what is wrong with this picture). There are also games and movies on the plane screen. Bring books if they like reading. Do they do any manageable crafts, like making friendship bracelets?

Yeah, this ain't 1994 anymore. Tablets are a tool, use them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

Sorry to shatter your view of the world we live in. But it won’t change because you find it too upsetting to see reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

I don't read in-flight reports, but considering how grown men touched me when I was metro-ing to school as a kid, I can fully believe it. If you want to let your kids sit away from you, that's fine... but you need to have a little conversation first about that kind of event unfolding, and what to do about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

I don't read in-flight reports, but considering how grown men touched me when I was metro-ing to school as a kid, I can fully believe it. If you want to let your kids sit away from you, that's fine... but you need to have a little conversation first about that kind of event unfolding, and what to do about it.

It also happened to me, as a teen, on a train.

People don’t want to know about the dark underside of society, and children suffer as a result.

Pedophiles take planes. Children left to their own devices in public (like in the internet) are vulnerable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

Sorry to shatter your view of the world we live in. But it won’t change because you find it too upsetting to see reality.

Pony up some facts, then. And they better not be about unaccompanied minors traveling alone which isn't what I'm talking about. Or young women. I'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

I don't read in-flight reports, but considering how grown men touched me when I was metro-ing to school as a kid, I can fully believe it. If you want to let your kids sit away from you, that's fine... but you need to have a little conversation first about that kind of event unfolding, and what to do about it.

On our last flight the 3 kids sat together, we sat a few rows behind. They are more at risk of fighting with each other than some random reaching across the aisle. But live in fear.

[Anonymous]

I don’t live in fear, but I take responsibility for my own children.

Rather than pairing them with strangers and hoping for the best.

[Anonymous]

It sucks more as an adult than as a kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

NP: I work in law enforcement and I tend to have the doom and gloom attitude (I assume everyone is a s-x offender until proven otherwise) but even I think you're over reacting a bit here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe sit a few rows away from them so you can see them but they can't see you. My kids will complain at me nonstop if I'm near them but will behave like perfect angels if I'm not right there as their punching bag ready to hear every complaint big or small they may have.

That is really sad to me. Do you know kids sometimes get moles red on planes sitting next to strangers? I work in the industry. Not common, but it happens.

More likely of course is that they will just need something. They are small children and should not have to navigate such a long flight alone, because they annoy you. No wonder kids nowadays have high rates of depression and anxiety .

It is a family vacation, for the good parts and the bad parts. Selfish people make bad parents.

I'm not worried about that at all given my kids ages. My kids did perfectly well with us sitting a few rows behind. I feel more sorry for the kid who would freak out and be overcome with anxiety that they can't be separated for a flight. Your kids are depressed and anxious due to your overbearing helicopter nature.

And we all know your "work in the industry" means you're not remotely close to being in the front line as a pilot or flight attendant. You work in some back office anywhere counting widgets.

Except I review police reports from in-flight infractions.

True stories of kids (or adults witnesses) who report strangers touching kids in the seat next to them. So I think my intel might be a little more frontline than yours. And I am trying to protect kids here.

Bullshit. I don't believe you for a second helicopter mommy.

Sorry to shatter your view of the world we live in. But it won’t change because you find it too upsetting to see reality.

Pony up some facts, then. And they better not be about unaccompanied minors traveling alone which isn't what I'm talking about. Or young women. I'll wait.

I did pony up facts. Sorry but I don’t plan to share the children’s names, ages and flight numbers.