No Club Has This System

[Anonymous]

Vienna moves players up and down all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.

nva moves kids down…pwsi moves kids down…

Vda moves kids down. Definitely not one size fits all

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When DS was at Potomac Soccer kids moved down all the time. As a matter of fact, he was moved down. Promotion was far less frequent but it happened. So to say this doesn’t happen is untrue. However, some clubs move kids up/down more than others. His new club seems to do all of its A team recruiting from outside the club. They took nobody from the B team for next year but 3 new players from outside. Apparently this is the story year after year.

Why do parents feel like their kids are entitled to their spot on the A team or if they’re on the B team, they feel entitled to be in line for an A team spot?

That another kid (many kids in reality) are better than a large clubs B team players should not be surprising.

This is the problem, the outside players are very often NOT better than the B team players. All things being equal, B team parents SHOULD feel “entitled” to that A team spot. If not, then yes of course take the outside player over B team kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.

Our club regularly moves kids down from the top team but more often, the family leaves. So if a club does that, they have to be willing to lose the family completely.

this … our club lost some talent that couldn’t stomach being a dr on the ecnlr team.

Ended up starting on GA teams.

Tis the nature of the beast

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:True. My oldest didn’t make a first top mlsnext team until his senior year.

Went on to play pro- D1. The kids that stayed on those first teams in same from club u9-u18— for the most part none of them did anything after HS- only like 1 kid out of them went onto play in college.

It was the kids like mine that had to continually move around for development, continually got shafted and learned grit and to grind and had the benefit of many different coaches, rejections/failures, and come backs that succeeded. It was a pro team scout that ultimately found him—not a HS coach (cut him), not club team coach, etc. Parents that are quiet generally have kids like this—have to fight for everything themselves. Sucks going through it but so much better for them in the long run.

Similar story, coach cut 5 kids to include my kid for outside players who weren't any better. It motivated him. He's on 3rd year of D1.

[Anonymous]

Getting cut is never a bad thing. It just means there is a team out there that is a better fit for your kid and will have what they need at that time - whether a particular type of coaching or more playing time. Hence the few anecdotal stories of kids turning out great after being cut.

And to those who say kids brought in are no better, you are delusional. At least for the top teams, most of those kids aren’t just making that team, they often have multiple offers for other top teams and made a deliberate decision to pick a club for whatever reason. They are likely what the team needs at that time.

Frankly, if you have been at a club a while and have gotten cut or never gotten promoted, you need to leave. Ur kid needs a fresh set of coaches eyes to see their potential.

[Anonymous]

We had some kids move down this year. Not sure if they are staying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.

VSA, PWSI, Loudoun, VDA, and NVA all move players up and down.

[Anonymous]

Clubs clearly move players up and down. The problem, though, is that 99% of the time these moves are made to “get the 3 points!” and have nothing to do with player development…which is clear to see by how rarely clubs will move their top performing players up in age groups.

[Anonymous]

Our club does move players up and down. It normally happens right before Spring season starts.

[Anonymous]

Coaches should be watching the kids on all of the teams in their age group all year and know who is performing and who is not. To be fair, my child's age group has an A and a B team and the lower part of the "A" roster and top part of the "B" roster are largely interchangeable. I can see where it was a tough call to make. How do you say to one kid there is not room on the higher team without saying to a kid on the top team that she has to drop because there is a kid on the second team who is just as good as she is? This is when you see people leave a club to go to another club's top team. Nobody was necessarily saying the kid is not good, but playing time considerations and roster caps at younger ages especially can make it hard. No 7 v 7 team needs a roster of 12 with five subs. A 9 v 9 roster doesn't need 7 subs, but what is the right answer? There probably is no perfect solution. Someone will always be unhappy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting cut is never a bad thing. It just means there is a team out there that is a better fit for your kid and will have what they need at that time - whether a particular type of coaching or more playing time. Hence the few anecdotal stories of kids turning out great after being cut.

And to those who say kids brought in are no better, you are delusional. At least for the top teams, most of those kids aren’t just making that team, they often have multiple offers for other top teams and made a deliberate decision to pick a club for whatever reason. They are likely what the team needs at that time.

Frankly, if you have been at a club a while and have gotten cut or never gotten promoted, you need to leave. Ur kid needs a fresh set of coaches eyes to see their potential.

No they arent delusional. Given in my situation half the new kids were cut the following year. Sometimes kids just show well in a tryout, and given the limited time coaches have to make decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting cut is never a bad thing. It just means there is a team out there that is a better fit for your kid and will have what they need at that time - whether a particular type of coaching or more playing time. Hence the few anecdotal stories of kids turning out great after being cut.

And to those who say kids brought in are no better, you are delusional. At least for the top teams, most of those kids aren’t just making that team, they often have multiple offers for other top teams and made a deliberate decision to pick a club for whatever reason. They are likely what the team needs at that time.

Frankly, if you have been at a club a while and have gotten cut or never gotten promoted, you need to leave. Ur kid needs a fresh set of coaches eyes to see their potential.

No they arent delusional. Given in my situation half the new kids were cut the following year. Sometimes kids just show well in a tryout, and given the limited time coaches have to make decisions.

It’s been said a million times on this forum. Tryouts are just a formality for kids on top teams. Those kids have prob already been practicing with the team before tryouts and probably got offers before tryouts. They didn’t need to be a standout at a tryout, they didn’t even need to show up at tryouts.