Teen whose mother is making them sick

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck. My step-kids' mom has munchausens by proxy. CPS is about all you can do. We finally got it a bit under control by leaning in. The 137 pound 5'2" 17 year old had already been taken out of school for two months to go to daily anorexia clinic. We pushed hard to get her into residential. it made no sense at all but finally all the medications were controlled by one source and the kid wasn't being brainwashed constantly. It was incredibly helpful.

This was very smart.

I don’t understand this. How do you get a slightly overweight teen into a residential program for anorexia? I see the desire was to get the kid out from under mom but this seems an odd way to go about it.

Mom was getting the child help, so this really makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP can you clarify what you think is going on?

1) Kid has a chronic illness. Parent is handling it in a less than ideal way, perhaps because of their own anxiety, which is making the child's situation worse. So, this might be overmedicating a child, causing a lot of side effects, or over-accommodating anxiety making it worse, or seeking so many specialists that absences from school create a new issue.

2) The kid has a chronic illness, and parent is intentionally doing things to exacerbate it, such as secretly feeding their allergic kid things they know the kid is allergic to, and then seeking sympathy and medical help for allergies with unknown triggers.

Those are two very different things, and those parent-child dyads need two very different kinds of support.

3) Child has a chronic illness that is real that doctors are ignoring or dismissing and mom is tired of seeing the child suffer and desperate to get the child help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP can you clarify what you think is going on?

1) Kid has a chronic illness. Parent is handling it in a less than ideal way, perhaps because of their own anxiety, which is making the child's situation worse. So, this might be overmedicating a child, causing a lot of side effects, or over-accommodating anxiety making it worse, or seeking so many specialists that absences from school create a new issue.

2) The kid has a chronic illness, and parent is intentionally doing things to exacerbate it, such as secretly feeding their allergic kid things they know the kid is allergic to, and then seeking sympathy and medical help for allergies with unknown triggers.

Those are two very different things, and those parent-child dyads need two very different kinds of support.

3) Child has a chronic illness that is real that doctors are ignoring or dismissing and mom is tired of seeing the child suffer and desperate to get the child help.

I am the PP who quoted, and yes, this is definitely a possibility. I am just wondering what the OP is thinking. Not that I think the OP is or isn't correct. Of course, I don't know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting only RW news sources are touting this win by the family.

It's hard to believe the doctors at JH made this mistake. And the judge then said no appeal? Hum...

According to the Helping Maya documentary, there were other families who sent their kids to JH and received a wrong diagnosis of Munchausen. There was a pattern. I have seen both LW and RW news sources talk about it. I believe the family and I believe Maya.

That was not an unbiased documentary. Hospital did the correct thing by reporting, but it's a complex issue with many players. Hospitals report suspicions, they do not investigate.

Very much recommend the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me if you want to learn more about this issue. Medical child abuse is more common than you'd think, serious, and very, very difficult for all involved.

I believe all women, and I believe Maya was telling the truth about her pain.

[Anonymous]

Also, in Maya’s case, it wasn’t actually Johns Hopkins. It was a JH affiliate hospital… like Sibley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am looking for resources that a teen can access on their own, I am not directly involved. I am hoping people will list resources here so the teen can access this page on their own.

You did not say how you are involved, OP. How are you getting your information?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good luck. My step-kids' mom has munchausens by proxy. CPS is about all you can do. We finally got it a bit under control by leaning in. The 137 pound 5'2" 17 year old had already been taken out of school for two months to go to daily anorexia clinic. We pushed hard to get her into residential. it made no sense at all but finally all the medications were controlled by one source and the kid wasn't being brainwashed constantly. It was incredibly helpful.

Huh?
5’2” and 137 pounds is anorexic or overweight/obese?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, in Maya’s case, it wasn’t actually Johns Hopkins. It was a JH affiliate hospital… like Sibley.

I think it was All Children’s in Florida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting only RW news sources are touting this win by the family.

It's hard to believe the doctors at JH made this mistake. And the judge then said no appeal? Hum...

According to the Helping Maya documentary, there were other families who sent their kids to JH and received a wrong diagnosis of Munchausen. There was a pattern. I have seen both LW and RW news sources talk about it. I believe the family and I believe Maya.

That was not an unbiased documentary. Hospital did the correct thing by reporting, but it's a complex issue with many players. Hospitals report suspicions, they do not investigate.

Very much recommend the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me if you want to learn more about this issue. Medical child abuse is more common than you'd think, serious, and very, very difficult for all involved.

I believe all women, and I believe Maya was telling the truth about her pain.

New poster: the prior one is correct. The hospital was required to report the case to CPS. They are mandatory reporters. The hospital was required to follow the court’s rulings based on the findings of CPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting only RW news sources are touting this win by the family.

It's hard to believe the doctors at JH made this mistake. And the judge then said no appeal? Hum...

According to the Helping Maya documentary, there were other families who sent their kids to JH and received a wrong diagnosis of Munchausen. There was a pattern. I have seen both LW and RW news sources talk about it. I believe the family and I believe Maya.

That was not an unbiased documentary. Hospital did the correct thing by reporting, but it's a complex issue with many players. Hospitals report suspicions, they do not investigate.

Very much recommend the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me if you want to learn more about this issue. Medical child abuse is more common than you'd think, serious, and very, very difficult for all involved.

I believe all women, and I believe Maya was telling the truth about her pain.

Really? What about all the women who abuse and even murder their own kids because they have munchausen by proxy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP can you clarify what you think is going on?

1) Kid has a chronic illness. Parent is handling it in a less than ideal way, perhaps because of their own anxiety, which is making the child's situation worse. So, this might be overmedicating a child, causing a lot of side effects, or over-accommodating anxiety making it worse, or seeking so many specialists that absences from school create a new issue.

2) The kid has a chronic illness, and parent is intentionally doing things to exacerbate it, such as secretly feeding their allergic kid things they know the kid is allergic to, and then seeking sympathy and medical help for allergies with unknown triggers.

Those are two very different things, and those parent-child dyads need two very different kinds of support.

It's 1). But in addition to the parent not handling the main issue ideally, whenever there is any sign of improvement in the main illness, they then find new symptoms to focus on. For example, when the main issue is under control, but then the child's toe appears swollen one day, the parent tries to get a diagnosis for arthritis, takes kid to a bunch of new doctors and asks them to run tests unrelated to the original diagnoses. Also takes siblings to the E.R. for no clear reason when the main child is feeling better (and they always get turned away after long waits.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting only RW news sources are touting this win by the family.

It's hard to believe the doctors at JH made this mistake. And the judge then said no appeal? Hum...

According to the Helping Maya documentary, there were other families who sent their kids to JH and received a wrong diagnosis of Munchausen. There was a pattern. I have seen both LW and RW news sources talk about it. I believe the family and I believe Maya.

That was not an unbiased documentary. Hospital did the correct thing by reporting, but it's a complex issue with many players. Hospitals report suspicions, they do not investigate.

Very much recommend the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me if you want to learn more about this issue. Medical child abuse is more common than you'd think, serious, and very, very difficult for all involved.

I believe all women, and I believe Maya was telling the truth about her pain.

Really? What about all the women who abuse and even murder their own kids because they have munchausen by proxy?

I had a lot of pain as a child and now adult. I wish my parents would have tried to help vs ignore it.

[Anonymous]

OP here again. For the record, before this mother had kids, she had many undiagnosed health complaints, and went to dozens of doctors over the years trying to diagnose mystery illnesses. We all know that women's symptoms get dismissed, so I didn't question at the time, but I do think it's odd that ever since child got diagnosed with this bigger illness, the parent has stopped having health issues of their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. For the record, before this mother had kids, she had many undiagnosed health complaints, and went to dozens of doctors over the years trying to diagnose mystery illnesses. We all know that women's symptoms get dismissed, so I didn't question at the time, but I do think it's odd that ever since child got diagnosed with this bigger illness, the parent has stopped having health issues of their own.

And who are you in relation to this mother and child? You seem to know (or think you know) a lot of personal medical details

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was recently a case at John’s Hopkins where the medical team suspected this and they were wrong. The mother committed suicide eventually and the surviving family received a huge settlement.

Netflix documentary about it "Take Care of Maya" really sad