New director awful. How are orgs so bad at picking competent leaders.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

She doesn’t. You should be concerned that you and your peers are not capable of doing the work and now a senior level person has to get involved. That doesn’t bode well for your future employment.

lol.


You sound like a horrific manager. Bet every single one of your employees hates you and your micromanaging style. How could 800 employees possibly be incapable of doing the work?

You tell me. You’re one of the 800 not performing well so now someone has to review your work and join your team meeting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

She doesn’t. You should be concerned that you and your peers are not capable of doing the work and now a senior level person has to get involved. That doesn’t bode well for your future employment.

lol.


You sound like a horrific manager. Bet every single one of your employees hates you and your micromanaging style. How could 800 employees possibly be incapable of doing the work?

You tell me. You’re one of the 800 not performing well so now someone has to review your work and join your team meeting.

Yes, 800 employees not performing well all at the same time.


You are absolutely clueless. How can it possibly be terrible leader at the helm? Clearly 800 people must be bad at their job.


You sound like a horrific boss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

She doesn’t. You should be concerned that you and your peers are not capable of doing the work and now a senior level person has to get involved. That doesn’t bode well for your future employment.

lol.


You sound like a horrific manager. Bet every single one of your employees hates you and your micromanaging style. How could 800 employees possibly be incapable of doing the work?

You tell me. You’re one of the 800 not performing well so now someone has to review your work and join your team meeting.

Yes, 800 employees not performing well all at the same time.


You are absolutely clueless. How can it possibly be terrible leader at the helm? Clearly 800 people must be bad at their job.


You sound like a horrific boss.

You can keep repeating I’m a terrible boss but I’m not the poor performer that is now being micromanaged. Maybe spend more time on improving your performance at work instead of complaining here.

[Anonymous]

Even in organizations where the new senior leader thinks a lot needs to change, they typically hire their team who they trust to carry out their plans. One person cannot monitor hundreds of peoples' work.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

She doesn’t. You should be concerned that you and your peers are not capable of doing the work and now a senior level person has to get involved. That doesn’t bode well for your future employment.

lol.


You sound like a horrific manager. Bet every single one of your employees hates you and your micromanaging style. How could 800 employees possibly be incapable of doing the work?

You tell me. You’re one of the 800 not performing well so now someone has to review your work and join your team meeting.

Yes, 800 employees not performing well all at the same time.


You are absolutely clueless. How can it possibly be terrible leader at the helm? Clearly 800 people must be bad at their job.


You sound like a horrific boss.

You can keep repeating I’m a terrible boss but I’m not the poor performer that is now being micromanaged. Maybe spend more time on improving your performance at work instead of complaining here.

You’re here on DCUM all the time trying to blame your new boss who has mtgs during office hours, so there’s that!

I’m watching basketball practice right now on PTO.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the 4pm mtg they set then? And all your hemming and hawing about people leaving at 3pm

WTF?

Sounds like a bunch of spoilt, entitled whiners.

Lemme guess, taxpayers pay their salary and benefits?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

Trust people who leave the office before 3pm and drive like maniacs with kids in their car?

Ok….

Childcare. Get some.

[Anonymous]

I’d audit the lunch situation too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

Sounds like a clown show over there.

People leaving the office at 3pm to race around and pick up kids and driving them in circles for hours and hours.

Hire a nanny or college kid to drive that stuff. Yesterday. Get childcare if both work and you have kids age 0-16 and you’re too lazy to set up car pools with others’ Nannie’s.

Work office hours exist for exactly the reason YOU brought up - communication, reachability, and team work at the offices

Shocking news flash!!

Who tf has Nannie’s and personal drivers?


Newsflash dimwit: not everyone is rich. Shocking you can understand that and the concept of core office hours written into policy.

Everyone in Washington DC and the DMV does.

$20 an hour so you don’t get fired from your day job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

That goodness you dont deal with any outside vendors or clients since you all can make up your own work hours. How blessed.

Hope your group is pulling in industry margins or better.

Thank God we don't work in your sh!tty industry.

Lol, it happened again this week. Meeting got changed at the last minute for 4-5PM. Someone got into a car accident with their kids because they had to go pick them up and were trying to manage a crazy stupid meeting at the last minute.

You also miss the major point. The reason meetings are being pushed so late is so that someone way high up can attend meetings and discussions for front line work 5 levels below her. It's insane micromanagement. She could I dunno, not attend the meetings because she trusts the employees hired and their managers above them rather than try to do all of the front line work herself? Crazy thought, I know!

Is this OP?

Is this an example of your professionalism and work product?

No wonder it’s under review. That and your time cards, key cards and parking lot cards.

[Anonymous]

4 pm doesn’t sound that crazy of a time for a meeting. You sound spoiled and entitled. Meeting times may have to change to support a business and its needs. Would you want to run an organization where a 4 PM meeting isn’t an option?

[Anonymous]

To the larger point, it seems to me that the individuals I see getting promoted and/or hired into leadership positions are being selected less on competency and more on commitment to the organization. More of the workaholics/“married to the job” types vs the high performers/strategic thinkers/likable consensus-builders…and the workaholics are really, really, especially terrible at leading organizations. They can’t delegate, they lack big picture thinking, they just demand more time and effort, with no payoff.

[Anonymous]

HOW IS 4PM 'LATE'? and what did i do wrong in my life that this is shocking to me? I mean granted many here are 'feds' and I am in advertising so in our world if you said 7 or 7.30 this would make sense. But 4??? what time do you start, 7?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:4 pm doesn’t sound that crazy of a time for a meeting. You sound spoiled and entitled. Meeting times may have to change to support a business and its needs. Would you want to run an organization where a 4 PM meeting isn’t an option?

You sound like a clueless boomer. I know for a fact that major corporations in this area have set core hours and people leave all the time at 3 PM if they come in early or finish the rest of their hours at home. Major tech companies, for example, have very flexible hours for their staff.

Get with the times boomer. If you and your company has flexible hours written into the company's own policy, you can't reneg on the policy independently at the last minute and throw chaos in everyone's working life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HOW IS 4PM 'LATE'? and what did i do wrong in my life that this is shocking to me? I mean granted many here are 'feds' and I am in advertising so in our world if you said 7 or 7.30 this would make sense. But 4??? what time do you start, 7?

My DH is at work before 6am. The garage is half-full. If he arrives after 630 its full. 4pm is the start of a 9.5 hour day for him. Not everyone gets a spin class and latte before starting work Ken.