Sending son to Walls but he does not want to go

[Anonymous]

Enrollment is open already. What happens if you try to enroll him at JR, OP? It’s not fraud if Deal sent the enrollment forms to JR and OP enrolls her kid, regardless of what the fraud police holler.

[Anonymous]

Well, when the parent writes their correct and current address, which is OOB for JR, the school will know, right? Or will they just use another address?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, when the parent writes their correct and current address, which is OOB for JR, the school will know, right? Or will they just use another address?

Many students with OOB addresses have legitimate feeder rights to JR because 8-10 years ago they lotteried from those addresses into OOB seats at a feeder elementary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, when the parent writes their correct and current address, which is OOB for JR, the school will know, right? Or will they just use another address?

Many students with OOB addresses have legitimate feeder rights to JR because 8-10 years ago they lotteried from those addresses into OOB seats at a feeder elementary.

This. Unless OP affirmatively lies on the application/enrollment form they are not committing fraud. Every kid who matched at a feeder OOB will enroll with OOB addresses and the school will not have any way to differentiate between OOB matches and IB matches who moved. IF OP doesn't check a box repping that they matched OOB, not fraud and not their problem.

Were I OP I would call the school and tell them my kid is a rising 9th grader from Deal and ask if they are automatically enrolled or whether you need to enroll them. If the latter, they will tell you how to do it.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think you can even lottery for a school if you’re enrolled at the feeder elementary or middle. Until MSDC updates it’s code to allow families to lottery, they have to let kids continue on the feeder path even if they’re not technically entitled under a policy.

OP just enroll your kid at JR and give some kid EOTP the spot at Walls. Better than forcing your kid there against their will.

[Anonymous]

I taught at a selective school for several years. I've seen it play out both ways. Some kids are adamant they don't want to be there and struggle the whole way through (or leave). Some find their tribe, adjust to the new normal, and are grateful they were forced to go.

I'd say it's less about what your son wants right now and more about the mindset he's demonstrated over the past two or three years. Ask yourself if he's the type to fixate on not getting his way to the point that every negative thing he experiences in the first few months will be the "I told you so" hill he chooses to die on. Or does he have a better recovery time when it comes to disappointment? If he's the type to at least do the bare minimum of what's expected on his own when he's unhappy without you having to force him then send him to Walls. If not, don't send him to a place where he'll be his own worst enemy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, when the parent writes their correct and current address, which is OOB for JR, the school will know, right? Or will they just use another address?

Many students with OOB addresses have legitimate feeder rights to JR because 8-10 years ago they lotteried from those addresses into OOB seats at a feeder elementary.

This. Unless OP affirmatively lies on the application/enrollment form they are not committing fraud. Every kid who matched at a feeder OOB will enroll with OOB addresses and the school will not have any way to differentiate between OOB matches and IB matches who moved. IF OP doesn't check a box repping that they matched OOB, not fraud and not their problem.

Were I OP I would call the school and tell them my kid is a rising 9th grader from Deal and ask if they are automatically enrolled or whether you need to enroll them. If the latter, they will tell you how to do it.

They definitely are not automatically enrolled. You have to enroll and show registration paperwork every year, even if you stay at the same school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, when the parent writes their correct and current address, which is OOB for JR, the school will know, right? Or will they just use another address?

Many students with OOB addresses have legitimate feeder rights to JR because 8-10 years ago they lotteried from those addresses into OOB seats at a feeder elementary.

This. Unless OP affirmatively lies on the application/enrollment form they are not committing fraud. Every kid who matched at a feeder OOB will enroll with OOB addresses and the school will not have any way to differentiate between OOB matches and IB matches who moved. IF OP doesn't check a box repping that they matched OOB, not fraud and not their problem.

Were I OP I would call the school and tell them my kid is a rising 9th grader from Deal and ask if they are automatically enrolled or whether you need to enroll them. If the latter, they will tell you how to do it.

They definitely are not automatically enrolled. You have to enroll and show registration paperwork every year, even if you stay at the same school.

Right, but OP can put her current DC address on the paperwork and enroll without lying. Because Deal sends enrollment information for all rising ninth graders and its not on OP to decide how Deal and JR apply their own policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I taught at a selective school for several years. I've seen it play out both ways. Some kids are adamant they don't want to be there and struggle the whole way through (or leave). Some find their tribe, adjust to the new normal, and are grateful they were forced to go.

I'd say it's less about what your son wants right now and more about the mindset he's demonstrated over the past two or three years. Ask yourself if he's the type to fixate on not getting his way to the point that every negative thing he experiences in the first few months will be the "I told you so" hill he chooses to die on. Or does he have a better recovery time when it comes to disappointment? If he's the type to at least do the bare minimum of what's expected on his own when he's unhappy without you having to force him then send him to Walls. If not, don't send him to a place where he'll be his own worst enemy.

+1

This is good advice. I have seen parents try and try to keep their kids at a certain school and the kid does poorly, doesn’t do work, etc. It is a constant struggle and I imagine leads to a frought parent/child relationship. I have also seen kids just push through even though they don’t love the school and still do well. I will say I have rarely seen a kid not want to go to the school at all and then start loving the school.

-teacher at a selective HS

[Anonymous]

He should not go to Walls. The kids who do not want to be there are miserable. My kid, fortunately, is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

I’m in a similar situation, helping my kid decide between Walls and JR (currently at Deal). Sports are a big factor and the perception that there are mostly “weird” kids at Walls. I wonder if this is just the talk that’s going around the Deal 8th graders. I definitely think Walls would be a good option for my kid but trying to help them see that on their own so it’s not forced.

[Anonymous]

Have not read all this but you can’t be enrolled in 2 schools at one time so either it’s Walls or another school.

Also, OP was IB with Deal but now has moved. OP does not have rights to JR. I can’t believe people on here are telling OP otherwise or just to enroll. She will be flagged as new OOB because she was not before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have not read all this but you can’t be enrolled in 2 schools at one time so either it’s Walls or another school.

Also, OP was IB with Deal but now has moved. OP does not have rights to JR. I can’t believe people on here are telling OP otherwise or just to enroll. She will be flagged as new OOB because she was not before.

No she won’t because that’s not how their systems of record track the data. Deal sends the paperwork for ALL eighth graders to JR. They don’t distinguish who’s OOB through the lottery and who was formerly IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have not read all this but you can’t be enrolled in 2 schools at one time so either it’s Walls or another school.

Also, OP was IB with Deal but now has moved. OP does not have rights to JR. I can’t believe people on here are telling OP otherwise or just to enroll. She will be flagged as new OOB because she was not before.

No she won’t because that’s not how their systems of record track the data. Deal sends the paperwork for ALL eighth graders to JR. They don’t distinguish who’s OOB through the lottery and who was formerly IB.

So you are telling her to lie and commit fraud. Fantastic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have not read all this but you can’t be enrolled in 2 schools at one time so either it’s Walls or another school.

Also, OP was IB with Deal but now has moved. OP does not have rights to JR. I can’t believe people on here are telling OP otherwise or just to enroll. She will be flagged as new OOB because she was not before.

No she won’t because that’s not how their systems of record track the data. Deal sends the paperwork for ALL eighth graders to JR. They don’t distinguish who’s OOB through the lottery and who was formerly IB.

So you are telling her to lie and commit fraud. Fantastic.

Goodness gracious, it’s not fraud if Deal sends her child’s information to JR and JR accepts it. It’s the schools choosing not to enforce a part of the DCPS policy for administrative reasons.

You fraud brigade really are nuts about this. Also this is DC, ask any lawyer friend the legal definition of fraud. Because you sound silly when you keep beating this dead horse.