Alexandria (MLS Next) vs SYC (MLS Next) experience

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your aspirations are low level D1 colleges and below, SYC is solid. I don’t think anyone has disputed that SYC plays kickball and relies heavily on physicality and grit to win. And frankly, that is more than sufficient to play in college.

This is a troll, clearly doesn’t know syc.

[Anonymous]

PREACH on! They play the long ball because they don't know how to develop player and teach them techniques. Look at the 2011B team. They used to be top of their game when they had a good coach. They have never lost to ASA till Mr. Fantastic came. 

Anonymous wrote:When is the SYC PR team going to realize them interrupting and sock puppeting every thread is going to back file. How about you teach your teams something other than long ball kick and run?

[Anonymous]

No, SYC only focus is to pick up strong boys who can kick a ball long. 

Anonymous wrote:Asa only cares about futsal program and paying big money to their leadership.

syc is focused on developing strong boys and girls programs, different priorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PREACH on! They play the long ball because they don't know how to develop player and teach them techniques. Look at the 2011B team. They used to be top of their game when they had a good coach. They have never lost to ASA till Mr. Fantastic came. 

Anonymous wrote:When is the SYC PR team going to realize them interrupting and sock puppeting every thread is going to back file. How about you teach your teams something other than long ball kick and run?

Makes you wonder if the same will happen with the 2012B

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, SYC only focus is to pick up strong boys who can kick a ball long.

There's nothing wrong with going long when opponents defense is terrible.

Usually teams that lose use the long ball excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, SYC only focus is to pick up strong boys who can kick a ball long. 

Anonymous wrote:Asa only cares about futsal program and paying big money to their leadership.

syc is focused on developing strong boys and girls programs, different priorities.

To be fair-- their girls program isn't any different. Each team has two giant girls whose only job is to kick it long. Sweeper back is boring!

[Anonymous]

No, the coach for the 2012B has done a good job with the 2010B.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PREACH on! They play the long ball because they don't know how to develop player and teach them techniques. Look at the 2011B team. They used to be top of their game when they had a good coach. They have never lost to ASA till Mr. Fantastic came. 

Anonymous wrote:When is the SYC PR team going to realize them interrupting and sock puppeting every thread is going to back file. How about you teach your teams something other than long ball kick and run?

Makes you wonder if the same will happen with the 2012B

[Anonymous]

Wow. This thread never even got off the ground before it devolved into my club is better than yours.
My son is in ASA's MLS Next program and it's been an overwhelmingly positive experience. He loves his coaches and his teammates. The organization has been very good overall. There are administrative hiccups, but fewer than other clubs we've been a part of. Field space is consistent and good. The teams rarely have a full field to themselves, but in NoVa that's to be expected. The value is outstanding, I think. The fee for the the year is $3,100 and includes 4X week training, 3-4 tournaments, and I think we've had 6 friendlies between August and now. For the lengthy trips to northern NJ the club provides a charter bus and the kids love the experience of travelling together. This weekend, for instance, the boys will be bussing up to NJ on Saturday for games, stay in a hotel overnight, play Sunday, and come home on the bus. The club and team managers are working hard to make it work. (hotel is a little extra per kid). As noted, futsal is not included in the price.
I love that the club has an organizational philosophy toward training and match play. Other comments claiming that creative players are stifled are a little overblown in my opinion. Coaches definitely discourage unnecessary and aimless dribbling, and stress making decisions before receiving the ball. Dribbling with purpose, to beat or draw a defender, is welcome. I like that playing through the middle, control, and decision making are stressed.
That said, I'd like to see them lean into it even more, and implement their system with more tempo at practice. I'd like to see them ramp up the intensity and up the speed of play in training.
I'm also of the opinion that they need to treat the MLS Next curriculum differently than the rest of the club. It should be treated as an elite level program. And, it should include individual skill work. Right now, that is completely absent. The boys train 4X a week and often have two games per weekend. They do not have time to work on things on their own. ASA would do well to recognize that players, especially top-level players, and their parents, consider player development an important part of their decision making when choosing a club. The club would argue that they use a tactical over technical model and stress decision-making. I think with a two or three day schedule, that makes a lot of sense. But the boys still need to develop and become confident with skills they can use to help execute those decisions in the matches and give them more options when making decisions.
The club has discussed incorporating one futsal practice per week into the curriculum, which I think would be valuable, but I haven't seen it yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This thread never even got off the ground before it devolved into my club is better than yours.
My son is in ASA's MLS Next program and it's been an overwhelmingly positive experience. He loves his coaches and his teammates. The organization has been very good overall. There are administrative hiccups, but fewer than other clubs we've been a part of. Field space is consistent and good. The teams rarely have a full field to themselves, but in NoVa that's to be expected. The value is outstanding, I think. The fee for the the year is $3,100 and includes 4X week training, 3-4 tournaments, and I think we've had 6 friendlies between August and now. For the lengthy trips to northern NJ the club provides a charter bus and the kids love the experience of travelling together. This weekend, for instance, the boys will be bussing up to NJ on Saturday for games, stay in a hotel overnight, play Sunday, and come home on the bus. The club and team managers are working hard to make it work. (hotel is a little extra per kid). As noted, futsal is not included in the price.
I love that the club has an organizational philosophy toward training and match play. Other comments claiming that creative players are stifled are a little overblown in my opinion. Coaches definitely discourage unnecessary and aimless dribbling, and stress making decisions before receiving the ball. Dribbling with purpose, to beat or draw a defender, is welcome. I like that playing through the middle, control, and decision making are stressed.
That said, I'd like to see them lean into it even more, and implement their system with more tempo at practice. I'd like to see them ramp up the intensity and up the speed of play in training.
I'm also of the opinion that they need to treat the MLS Next curriculum differently than the rest of the club. It should be treated as an elite level program. And, it should include individual skill work. Right now, that is completely absent. The boys train 4X a week and often have two games per weekend. They do not have time to work on things on their own. ASA would do well to recognize that players, especially top-level players, and their parents, consider player development an important part of their decision making when choosing a club. The club would argue that they use a tactical over technical model and stress decision-making. I think with a two or three day schedule, that makes a lot of sense. But the boys still need to develop and become confident with skills they can use to help execute those decisions in the matches and give them more options when making decisions.
The club has discussed incorporating one futsal practice per week into the curriculum, which I think would be valuable, but I haven't seen it yet.

Thanks for the thoughtful response. I like that they practice 4x a week, I assume SYC does the same for their MLS next teams. I think ECNL teams only practice 3x a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, SYC only focus is to pick up strong boys who can kick a ball long. 

Anonymous wrote:Asa only cares about futsal program and paying big money to their leadership.

syc is focused on developing strong boys and girls programs, different priorities.

To be fair-- their girls program isn't any different. Each team has two giant girls whose only job is to kick it long. Sweeper back is boring!

SYC record of developing lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This thread never even got off the ground before it devolved into my club is better than yours.
My son is in ASA's MLS Next program and it's been an overwhelmingly positive experience. He loves his coaches and his teammates. The organization has been very good overall. There are administrative hiccups, but fewer than other clubs we've been a part of. Field space is consistent and good. The teams rarely have a full field to themselves, but in NoVa that's to be expected. The value is outstanding, I think. The fee for the the year is $3,100 and includes 4X week training, 3-4 tournaments, and I think we've had 6 friendlies between August and now. For the lengthy trips to northern NJ the club provides a charter bus and the kids love the experience of travelling together. This weekend, for instance, the boys will be bussing up to NJ on Saturday for games, stay in a hotel overnight, play Sunday, and come home on the bus. The club and team managers are working hard to make it work. (hotel is a little extra per kid). As noted, futsal is not included in the price.
I love that the club has an organizational philosophy toward training and match play. Other comments claiming that creative players are stifled are a little overblown in my opinion. Coaches definitely discourage unnecessary and aimless dribbling, and stress making decisions before receiving the ball. Dribbling with purpose, to beat or draw a defender, is welcome. I like that playing through the middle, control, and decision making are stressed.
That said, I'd like to see them lean into it even more, and implement their system with more tempo at practice. I'd like to see them ramp up the intensity and up the speed of play in training.
I'm also of the opinion that they need to treat the MLS Next curriculum differently than the rest of the club. It should be treated as an elite level program. And, it should include individual skill work. Right now, that is completely absent. The boys train 4X a week and often have two games per weekend. They do not have time to work on things on their own. ASA would do well to recognize that players, especially top-level players, and their parents, consider player development an important part of their decision making when choosing a club. The club would argue that they use a tactical over technical model and stress decision-making. I think with a two or three day schedule, that makes a lot of sense. But the boys still need to develop and become confident with skills they can use to help execute those decisions in the matches and give them more options when making decisions.
The club has discussed incorporating one futsal practice per week into the curriculum, which I think would be valuable, but I haven't seen it yet.

When you say 4x a week is one of those training’s performance/conditioning training?

[Anonymous]

ASA does not offer performance training. To be far, SYC does not offer performance training either.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This thread never even got off the ground before it devolved into my club is better than yours.
My son is in ASA's MLS Next program and it's been an overwhelmingly positive experience. He loves his coaches and his teammates. The organization has been very good overall. There are administrative hiccups, but fewer than other clubs we've been a part of. Field space is consistent and good. The teams rarely have a full field to themselves, but in NoVa that's to be expected. The value is outstanding, I think. The fee for the the year is $3,100 and includes 4X week training, 3-4 tournaments, and I think we've had 6 friendlies between August and now. For the lengthy trips to northern NJ the club provides a charter bus and the kids love the experience of travelling together. This weekend, for instance, the boys will be bussing up to NJ on Saturday for games, stay in a hotel overnight, play Sunday, and come home on the bus. The club and team managers are working hard to make it work. (hotel is a little extra per kid). As noted, futsal is not included in the price.
I love that the club has an organizational philosophy toward training and match play. Other comments claiming that creative players are stifled are a little overblown in my opinion. Coaches definitely discourage unnecessary and aimless dribbling, and stress making decisions before receiving the ball. Dribbling with purpose, to beat or draw a defender, is welcome. I like that playing through the middle, control, and decision making are stressed.
That said, I'd like to see them lean into it even more, and implement their system with more tempo at practice. I'd like to see them ramp up the intensity and up the speed of play in training.
I'm also of the opinion that they need to treat the MLS Next curriculum differently than the rest of the club. It should be treated as an elite level program. And, it should include individual skill work. Right now, that is completely absent. The boys train 4X a week and often have two games per weekend. They do not have time to work on things on their own. ASA would do well to recognize that players, especially top-level players, and their parents, consider player development an important part of their decision making when choosing a club. The club would argue that they use a tactical over technical model and stress decision-making. I think with a two or three day schedule, that makes a lot of sense. But the boys still need to develop and become confident with skills they can use to help execute those decisions in the matches and give them more options when making decisions.
The club has discussed incorporating one futsal practice per week into the curriculum, which I think would be valuable, but I haven't seen it yet.

When you say 4x a week is one of those training’s performance/conditioning training?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SYC does not do anything in the winter time.

SYC has been doing Futsal for years. Most of the games are played at GMU or NVCC. I don't think the play the same Futsal league as ASA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SYC lost one of there tops coaches to ASA. That should say it all

Good point

Who's the "top coach" that left?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SYC does not do anything in the winter time.

SYC has been doing Futsal for years. Most of the games are played at GMU or NVCC. I don't think the play the same Futsal league as ASA.

Not at the level of ASA. It's a gloried rec session