Are Martingale collars bad?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Cat person here, so...why not a harness?


A harness actually encourages a lot of dogs to pull. A collar gives you control of their front/heads, so you can turn the dog easier. If you change direction with a harness, the clip point is the center of their back so you kind of yank them over. With a collar you are directing them better. Think front wheel drive on a car. One of the best ways IMO to teach loose leash walking is constant directional changes on a collar.

--trainer


So tired of reading anti harness bias from a few trainers. For some reason, trainers like you just can't stand that the harness works for many dog owners.


I’m sorry you feel attacked. I’m not anti harness at all and actually walk my own small dogs in harnesses! I was answering the question why some people like to use a martingale over a harness, because it gives more control over direction.

Obviously this is back clip harnesses, not front clip. Those essentially function like a collar, giving you the ability to control the front of the dog easily.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cat person here, so...why not a harness?


A harness actually encourages a lot of dogs to pull. A collar gives you control of their front/heads, so you can turn the dog easier. If you change direction with a harness, the clip point is the center of their back so you kind of yank them over. With a collar you are directing them better. Think front wheel drive on a car. One of the best ways IMO to teach loose leash walking is constant directional changes on a collar.

--trainer


So tired of reading anti harness bias from a few trainers. For some reason, trainers like you just can't stand that the harness works for many dog owners.


+1

My dog has been in the Freedom Harness for years, and she doesn't pull at all if it is clipped on the front. It doesn't encourage her to pull at all.


The freedom harness is front clip, so not relevant to my comment at all. It’s a fabulous tool! I’m sorry I was unclear, I was trying to answer why someone would use a martingale over a traditional harness.
Anonymous
Some harnesses also have martingale too
Anonymous
This thread has me thinking about trying a martingale for our large breed leash puller. Amazon has styles with and without buckles and some with a chain front. Is one style preferred over another?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some harnesses also have martingale too


I use a martingale harness for my boxer. Works great, but he still pulls like an idiot. No amount of training seems to work, but the harness helps.
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