Last time when there was this much upheaval?

[Anonymous]

It’s constant. My oldest started playing 11 years ago when boys CCL was king—pre DA. My older nephews when NCSL was dominant league.

I’ve seen some coaches/TDs at 3-5 different clubs. We have been with two clubs that don’t even exist anymore.

It’s never about the kids. It’s a pissing match between adults looking to screw one another over.

[Anonymous]

Every year seems crazier than the one before somehow. This does seem especially crazy though. We still have to wait until the majority of the coaching slates appear and who know what else will happen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every year seems crazier than the one before somehow. This does seem especially crazy though. We still have to wait until the majority of the coaching slates appear and who know what else will happen!

It's a complete f****kg sh*tshow. I'm glad I have one graduating this year so I have only 1 child left to deal with this cr*p.

There are far too many kids all over the place with no idea what is going on. High school season, overlapping ID sessions and just complete chaos.

Back room deals left and right so the kids that are honestly just showing up and performing without parents or coach connections get f*****D as usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every year seems crazier than the one before somehow. This does seem especially crazy though. We still have to wait until the majority of the coaching slates appear and who know what else will happen!

Agree. Probably more craziness on the horizon before the dust finally settles.

[Anonymous]

The national programs are becoming ridiculous. From U13 and up around here there aren't many teams that realistically need to travel to find competition. Understandable if your team becomes one that just squashes everybody around for the entire year and needs to find that competition but thats few and far between around here. There's plenty of competition within 1-2 hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s constant. My oldest started playing 11 years ago when boys CCL was king—pre DA. My older nephews when NCSL was dominant league.

I’ve seen some coaches/TDs at 3-5 different clubs. We have been with two clubs that don’t even exist anymore.

It’s never about the kids. It’s a pissing match between adults looking to screw one another over.

Boys CCL was actually never king, though you wouldn’t have known it from their marketing spiel. My oldest kids (early 20s now) started out in a system that now seems idyllic. Almost all travel girls played in WAGS, which was in a decline from its glory years but still functioning, and most travel boys played in NCSL, which was well run. The two leagues were promotion-relegation based, so 2 or 3 teams would go up or down from a division of 12 or so teams each season.

NCSL division 1 was lit back then! There were huge rivalries and great competition to win division 1. That’s when we first encountered JW, who has been discussed on the VA Union and now Arlington threads. He had a great team of boys who competed fiercely with my son’s team. I was really pleased to see he was named Executive Director at NCSL. Probably no way to turn back the clock, but I wish you all could have been around for the good old days before CCL and NCSL destroyed grass-roots soccer in our area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The amount you invest for years at the elite youth level may or may not lower the college bill, but in the long run I’m not convinced you save money. If your kid wants college soccer that’s wonderful but there are a lot of kids who decide they want a normal college experience or have their heart set on a school where they won’t make the team.

ACCURATE. College soccer is an equivalency sport so very few athletes both male and female are actually getting money for soccer scholarships in college. Lets face it full rides for college soccer is the exception not the norm and the sooner we come to terms with that the better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or does it feel like the amount of changes/upheaval at clubs in NoVA this spring has been higher than usual? Just off the top of my head:

* FCV coaches leave en mass (mostly to Revolution but BP to VDA)
* SYC leaves VA Union for GA
* VA Union and Brave merge into FVU leaving players scrambling
* Revolution gets into GA
* FCV is hiring new staff but still nothing official on field space
* GFR leaves NVA no sooner than they joined and then fires two coaches and hires a new TD that's also the DOC at FVU
* LMVSC gets into RL

It's crazy!

* DMV FC folds into GFRSC
* NVA drops GFR from alliance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s constant. My oldest started playing 11 years ago when boys CCL was king—pre DA. My older nephews when NCSL was dominant league.

I’ve seen some coaches/TDs at 3-5 different clubs. We have been with two clubs that don’t even exist anymore.

It’s never about the kids. It’s a pissing match between adults looking to screw one another over.

Boys CCL was actually never king, though you wouldn’t have known it from their marketing spiel. My oldest kids (early 20s now) started out in a system that now seems idyllic. Almost all travel girls played in WAGS, which was in a decline from its glory years but still functioning, and most travel boys played in NCSL, which was well run. The two leagues were promotion-relegation based, so 2 or 3 teams would go up or down from a division of 12 or so teams each season.

NCSL division 1 was lit back then! There were huge rivalries and great competition to win division 1. That’s when we first encountered JW, who has been discussed on the VA Union and now Arlington threads. He had a great team of boys who competed fiercely with my son’s team. I was really pleased to see he was named Executive Director at NCSL. Probably no way to turn back the clock, but I wish you all could have been around for the good old days before CCL and NCSL destroyed grass-roots soccer in our area.

Oh no -- I agree. I said NCSL for my older nephews. It was on its way out when my own kids started playing.

I played 10 years in WAGs myself--when it was the only league and competitive.

What I cannot get over is all of this driving across 4-5 state borders for regular season games---and missing 3-4 Fridays of school for it and then showcases where kids are sometimes missing a week of school.

There is no need to travel that far for regular season games. Travel like that should be confined only to tournament/showcases and they should be on holiday weekends only--like they used to be---or summer. We used to have summer tournaments--primarily when out of state play happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The national programs are becoming ridiculous. From U13 and up around here there aren't many teams that realistically need to travel to find competition. Understandable if your team becomes one that just squashes everybody around for the entire year and needs to find that competition but thats few and far between around here. There's plenty of competition within 1-2 hours.

My god, YES. Everyone has lost their damn minds. Parents have not pushed back on this---they just blindly follow along and play marked up rates for the Siesta Key or Motel 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or does it feel like the amount of changes/upheaval at clubs in NoVA this spring has been higher than usual? Just off the top of my head:

* FCV coaches leave en mass (mostly to Revolution but BP to VDA)
* SYC leaves VA Union for GA
* VA Union and Brave merge into FVU leaving players scrambling
* Revolution gets into GA
* FCV is hiring new staff but still nothing official on field space
* GFR leaves NVA no sooner than they joined and then fires two coaches and hires a new TD that's also the DOC at FVU
* LMVSC gets into RL

It's crazy!

* DMV FC folds into GFRSC
* NVA drops GFR from alliance

GFR left NVA by choice, not the other way around. But why GFR thought that was good idea in the first place I still don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s constant. My oldest started playing 11 years ago when boys CCL was king—pre DA. My older nephews when NCSL was dominant league.

I’ve seen some coaches/TDs at 3-5 different clubs. We have been with two clubs that don’t even exist anymore.

It’s never about the kids. It’s a pissing match between adults looking to screw one another over.

Boys CCL was actually never king, though you wouldn’t have known it from their marketing spiel. My oldest kids (early 20s now) started out in a system that now seems idyllic. Almost all travel girls played in WAGS, which was in a decline from its glory years but still functioning, and most travel boys played in NCSL, which was well run. The two leagues were promotion-relegation based, so 2 or 3 teams would go up or down from a division of 12 or so teams each season.

NCSL division 1 was lit back then! There were huge rivalries and great competition to win division 1. That’s when we first encountered JW, who has been discussed on the VA Union and now Arlington threads. He had a great team of boys who competed fiercely with my son’s team. I was really pleased to see he was named Executive Director at NCSL. Probably no way to turn back the clock, but I wish you all could have been around for the good old days before CCL and NCSL destroyed grass-roots soccer in our area.

Oh no -- I agree. I said NCSL for my older nephews. It was on its way out when my own kids started playing.

I played 10 years in WAGs myself--when it was the only league and competitive.

What I cannot get over is all of this driving across 4-5 state borders for regular season games---and missing 3-4 Fridays of school for it and then showcases where kids are sometimes missing a week of school.

There is no need to travel that far for regular season games. Travel like that should be confined only to tournament/showcases and they should be on holiday weekends only--like they used to be---or summer. We used to have summer tournaments--primarily when out of state play happened.

Normally this kind of travel would be exclusive to the absolute best of the best. Maybe one team like this per state.

Now everyone is elite as long as you can pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s constant. My oldest started playing 11 years ago when boys CCL was king—pre DA. My older nephews when NCSL was dominant league.

I’ve seen some coaches/TDs at 3-5 different clubs. We have been with two clubs that don’t even exist anymore.

It’s never about the kids. It’s a pissing match between adults looking to screw one another over.

Boys CCL was actually never king, though you wouldn’t have known it from their marketing spiel. My oldest kids (early 20s now) started out in a system that now seems idyllic. Almost all travel girls played in WAGS, which was in a decline from its glory years but still functioning, and most travel boys played in NCSL, which was well run. The two leagues were promotion-relegation based, so 2 or 3 teams would go up or down from a division of 12 or so teams each season.

NCSL division 1 was lit back then! There were huge rivalries and great competition to win division 1. That’s when we first encountered JW, who has been discussed on the VA Union and now Arlington threads. He had a great team of boys who competed fiercely with my son’s team. I was really pleased to see he was named Executive Director at NCSL. Probably no way to turn back the clock, but I wish you all could have been around for the good old days before CCL and NCSL destroyed grass-roots soccer in our area.

Oh no -- I agree. I said NCSL for my older nephews. It was on its way out when my own kids started playing.

I played 10 years in WAGs myself--when it was the only league and competitive.

What I cannot get over is all of this driving across 4-5 state borders for regular season games---and missing 3-4 Fridays of school for it and then showcases where kids are sometimes missing a week of school.

There is no need to travel that far for regular season games. Travel like that should be confined only to tournament/showcases and they should be on holiday weekends only--like they used to be---or summer. We used to have summer tournaments--primarily when out of state play happened.

Normally this kind of travel would be exclusive to the absolute best of the best. Maybe one team like this per state.

Now everyone is elite as long as you can pay for it.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s constant. My oldest started playing 11 years ago when boys CCL was king—pre DA. My older nephews when NCSL was dominant league.

I’ve seen some coaches/TDs at 3-5 different clubs. We have been with two clubs that don’t even exist anymore.

It’s never about the kids. It’s a pissing match between adults looking to screw one another over.

Boys CCL was actually never king, though you wouldn’t have known it from their marketing spiel. My oldest kids (early 20s now) started out in a system that now seems idyllic. Almost all travel girls played in WAGS, which was in a decline from its glory years but still functioning, and most travel boys played in NCSL, which was well run. The two leagues were promotion-relegation based, so 2 or 3 teams would go up or down from a division of 12 or so teams each season.

NCSL division 1 was lit back then! There were huge rivalries and great competition to win division 1. That’s when we first encountered JW, who has been discussed on the VA Union and now Arlington threads. He had a great team of boys who competed fiercely with my son’s team. I was really pleased to see he was named Executive Director at NCSL. Probably no way to turn back the clock, but I wish you all could have been around for the good old days before CCL and NCSL destroyed grass-roots soccer in our area.

Oh no -- I agree. I said NCSL for my older nephews. It was on its way out when my own kids started playing.

I played 10 years in WAGs myself--when it was the only league and competitive.

What I cannot get over is all of this driving across 4-5 state borders for regular season games---and missing 3-4 Fridays of school for it and then showcases where kids are sometimes missing a week of school.

There is no need to travel that far for regular season games. Travel like that should be confined only to tournament/showcases and they should be on holiday weekends only--like they used to be---or summer. We used to have summer tournaments--primarily when out of state play happened.

Normally this kind of travel would be exclusive to the absolute best of the best. Maybe one team like this per state.

Now everyone is elite as long as you can pay for it.

100%

Fully agree with this, Elite=Being able to pay 💰

[Anonymous]

Right now my kids GA team is in Florida.
The clubs DPL teams are in Dallas.

2 teams traveling × 5 age groups x 18 per team = $$$

Ridiculous amout of skimming being made on hotels, flights, fees, etc, etc, etc