How early to start preparing kid for attending a good college?

Anonymous
Make sure there is no "dream school". Don't encourage that line of thinking. Build The List from the bottom up. Love thy safety. Ideally love several safeties.
Anonymous
8th grade is an excellent time to prioritize good mental health and a fulfilling life for your child. Is that what you meant to ask?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given the slim odds for even a student with perfect stats, it is way too early, at least from a standpoint that prioritizes mental health.

I would encourage them to find activities they enjoy and also to do some true service that benefits their community. Hands on grunt work, not creating a fake non profit. If those things translate into resume boosters, great, but if not, at least they did something more meaningful than test prep.

- double grad of two schools on your list who won't be encouraging my kids to follow


This is good advice. I didn’t start to seriously think about Stanford until my junior year when I already had 2.5 years of perfect high school grades and a full IB course load under my belt and was taking calculus. That said, my parents had created the conditions in which I had interesting and unique hobbies that they supported financially, which ultimately made me stand out from the applicant pool. To the extent that they were extremely invested in the outcome of my application they didn’t show it (although I was a triple legacy applicant so I’m sure they cared to some degree)…
Anonymous
Harvard, Duke, and Princeton are as good as it gets... definitely don't peg your kid's hopes on getting into one of them. Once you get out of that tippy top prestige range, there are many great schools that will also offer better money to your kid. Of course that doesn't mean your kid shouldn't try if they're really motivated to end up at one of those super elite schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:8th grade is an excellent time to prioritize good mental health and a fulfilling life for your child. Is that what you meant to ask?


If that’s the case, I would recommend this book for walking back the impact you’re going to make by being hyper focused on this type of goal.

https://www.jenniferbwallace.com/about-never-enough
Anonymous
Time to grab the 🍿
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you're just starting in 8th grade your DD is totally screwed. You need to start, at the LATEST, by 4th grade to set them up to be doing Algebra 1 by 7th grade. Their writing skills need to be very solid - you can't just start now. You should readjust your DD's expectations to something more like Boston College or Northeastern.


Very funny. You can keep your kid a virtual prisoner after school with tutors and work books and online work and math classes starting in 1st grade and they will still end up with the same end results academically as every other capable kid but not anything extraordinary. The kids who go to Harvard are self motivated with excellent work ethics that come from within. Plus they have the ability to take in tons of information and make sense of it.

People in the Northeast tend to know a lot of Harvard graduates because they tend to stay in the area. And they come from all walks of life and end up in all kinds of careers with all kinds of salaries. There’s a college out there for everyone. Nothing is better than your child finding his perfect match and loving his university .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move overseas and have your kid educated at a top American school.

My high school overseas had 40 (class was 75) kids going to US colleges and universities last year. 2 Harvard admits, 1 princeton 1 Yale and a Stanford. Several Brow, several Northwestern. The rest of the class went to similarly prestigious universities.

Living as an expat at a well-regarded secondary school is a hit.


No, they didn’t. There are no “similarly prestigious” universities in the US to Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Stanford.

Why not just name the school and cut the bullshit.


Your mindset is parochial. Similarly prestigious in this context clearly indicates Non-US.

To satisfy you though, here is the list of college matriculations for the class of '23. That class had just about 100 students.

AERES UNIVERSITY OF APPLIED SCIENCES
AMSTERDAM UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
BABSON COLLEGE
BARNARD COLLEGE
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY
BEACON COLLEGE
BELAS ARTES
BENTLEY UNIVERSITY
BERKLEE COLLEGE OF MUSIC
BOCCONI UNIVERSITY
BOSTON COLLEGE
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY-IDAHO
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY-PROVO
BROWN UNIVERSITY
CALVIN UNIVERSITY
CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY CITY
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON
COLLEGE OF THE HOLY CROSS
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
CORNELL UNIVERSITY
DENISON UNIVERSITY
DEPAU UNIVERSITY
DUKE UNIVERSITY
ECOLE HOTELIERE DE LAUSANNE
EMBRY-RIDDLE AERONAUTICAL UNIVERSITY
EMORY UNIVERSITY
ERASMUS UNIVERSITY ROTTERDAM
ESPM FAAP FUNDAÇÃO GETULIO VARGAS
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY
FRANKFURT UNIVERSITY OF MUSIC & PERFORMING ARTS
FRANKLIN & MARSHALL COLLEGE
GEORGE BROWN COLLEGE
GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY
GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
GOLDSMITHS
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON HUMANITAS UNIVERSITY
INSTITUT FRANÇAIS DE LA MODE
IBMEC IE UNIVERSITY - MADRID CAMPUS
IE UNIVERSITY - SEGOVIA CAMPUS
IMPERIAL COLLEGE LONDON
INDIANA UNIVERSITY BLOOMINGTON
INSPER INSTITUTO DE TECNOLOGIA E LIDERANÇA
JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY
KOREA ADVANCED INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY (KAIST)
KING’S COLLEGE LONDON
LEIDEN UNIVERSITY COLLEGE THE HAGUE
LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS AND POLITICAL SCIENCE,
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
CHICAGO LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
NEW ORLEANS LYNN UNIVERSITY
MARIST COLLEGE
MCGILL UNIVERSITY
MCMASTER UNIVERSITY
MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY
MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE
NANYANG TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITY
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY
NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE
PARSONS SCHOOL OF DESIGN
PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY
POMONA COLLEGE
PURDUE UNIVERSITY
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY
SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY
SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO
SEMMELWEIS UNIVERSITY
STANFORD UNIVERSITY
STRATHCLYDE UNIVERSITY
SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY
SUNY AT ALBANY
SWARTHMORE COLLEGE
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
ECHNISCHE UNIVERSITEIT EINDHOVEN
THE COLLEGE OF WOOSTER
THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY
THE NEW SCHOOL
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN
TILBURG UNIVERSITY
TRINITY COLLEGE
TUFTS UNIVERSITY
TULANE UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF THE ARTS LONDON - LONDON COLLEGE OF FASHION
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE MAASTRICHT
UNIVERSITY OF AMSTERDAM
UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO
UNIVERSITY OF GRONINGEN
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT URBANA-CHAMPAIGN
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN-ANN ARBOR
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA-TWIN CITIES
UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO T
HE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
UNIVERSITY OF WESTMINSTER
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON
UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY
VRIJE UNIVERSITEIT AMSTERDAM
WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY
WELLESLEY COLLEGE
WILLIAMS COLLEGE
YALE UNIVERSITY
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move overseas and have your kid educated at a top American school.

My high school overseas had 40 (class was 75) kids going to US colleges and universities last year. 2 Harvard admits, 1 princeton 1 Yale and a Stanford. Several Brow, several Northwestern. The rest of the class went to similarly prestigious universities.

Living as an expat at a well-regarded secondary school is a hit.


No, they didn’t. There are no “similarly prestigious” universities in the US to Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Stanford.

Why not just name the school and cut the bullshit.


Your mindset is parochial. Similarly prestigious in this context clearly indicates Non-US.

To satisfy you though, here is the list of college matriculations for the class of '23. That class had just about 100 students.

AERES UNIVERSITY OF APPLIED SCIENCES
AMSTERDAM UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
BABSON COLLEGE
BARNARD COLLEGE
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY
BEACON COLLEGE
BELAS ARTES
BENTLEY UNIVERSITY
BERKLEE COLLEGE OF MUSIC
BOCCONI UNIVERSITY
BOSTON COLLEGE
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY-IDAHO
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY-PROVO
BROWN UNIVERSITY
CALVIN UNIVERSITY
CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY CITY
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON
COLLEGE OF THE HOLY CROSS
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
CORNELL UNIVERSITY
DENISON UNIVERSITY
DEPAU UNIVERSITY
DUKE UNIVERSITY
ECOLE HOTELIERE DE LAUSANNE
EMBRY-RIDDLE AERONAUTICAL UNIVERSITY
EMORY UNIVERSITY
ERASMUS UNIVERSITY ROTTERDAM
ESPM FAAP FUNDAÇÃO GETULIO VARGAS
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY
FRANKFURT UNIVERSITY OF MUSIC & PERFORMING ARTS
FRANKLIN & MARSHALL COLLEGE
GEORGE BROWN COLLEGE
GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY
GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
GOLDSMITHS
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON HUMANITAS UNIVERSITY
INSTITUT FRANÇAIS DE LA MODE
IBMEC IE UNIVERSITY - MADRID CAMPUS
IE UNIVERSITY - SEGOVIA CAMPUS
IMPERIAL COLLEGE LONDON
INDIANA UNIVERSITY BLOOMINGTON
INSPER INSTITUTO DE TECNOLOGIA E LIDERANÇA
JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY
KOREA ADVANCED INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY (KAIST)
KING’S COLLEGE LONDON
LEIDEN UNIVERSITY COLLEGE THE HAGUE
LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS AND POLITICAL SCIENCE,
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
CHICAGO LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
NEW ORLEANS LYNN UNIVERSITY
MARIST COLLEGE
MCGILL UNIVERSITY
MCMASTER UNIVERSITY
MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY
MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE
NANYANG TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITY
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY
NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE
PARSONS SCHOOL OF DESIGN
PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY
POMONA COLLEGE
PURDUE UNIVERSITY
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY
SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY
SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO
SEMMELWEIS UNIVERSITY
STANFORD UNIVERSITY
STRATHCLYDE UNIVERSITY
SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY
SUNY AT ALBANY
SWARTHMORE COLLEGE
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
ECHNISCHE UNIVERSITEIT EINDHOVEN
THE COLLEGE OF WOOSTER
THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY
THE NEW SCHOOL
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN
TILBURG UNIVERSITY
TRINITY COLLEGE
TUFTS UNIVERSITY
TULANE UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF THE ARTS LONDON - LONDON COLLEGE OF FASHION
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE MAASTRICHT
UNIVERSITY OF AMSTERDAM
UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO
UNIVERSITY OF GRONINGEN
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT URBANA-CHAMPAIGN
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN-ANN ARBOR
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA-TWIN CITIES
UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO T
HE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
UNIVERSITY OF WESTMINSTER
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON
UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY
VRIJE UNIVERSITEIT AMSTERDAM
WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY
WELLESLEY COLLEGE
WILLIAMS COLLEGE
YALE UNIVERSITY


That's a long list for a class of only 100. But usual suspects, Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Columbia, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move overseas and have your kid educated at a top American school.

My high school overseas had 40 (class was 75) kids going to US colleges and universities last year. 2 Harvard admits, 1 princeton 1 Yale and a Stanford. Several Brow, several Northwestern. The rest of the class went to similarly prestigious universities.

Living as an expat at a well-regarded secondary school is a hit.


No, they didn’t. There are no “similarly prestigious” universities in the US to Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Stanford.

Why not just name the school and cut the bullshit.


Your mindset is parochial. Similarly prestigious in this context clearly indicates Non-US.

To satisfy you though, here is the list of college matriculations for the class of '23. That class had just about 100 students.

AERES UNIVERSITY OF APPLIED SCIENCES
AMSTERDAM UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
BABSON COLLEGE
BARNARD COLLEGE
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY
BEACON COLLEGE
BELAS ARTES
BENTLEY UNIVERSITY
BERKLEE COLLEGE OF MUSIC
BOCCONI UNIVERSITY
BOSTON COLLEGE
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY-IDAHO
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY-PROVO
BROWN UNIVERSITY
CALVIN UNIVERSITY
CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY CITY
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON
COLLEGE OF THE HOLY CROSS
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
CORNELL UNIVERSITY
DENISON UNIVERSITY
DEPAU UNIVERSITY
DUKE UNIVERSITY
ECOLE HOTELIERE DE LAUSANNE
EMBRY-RIDDLE AERONAUTICAL UNIVERSITY
EMORY UNIVERSITY
ERASMUS UNIVERSITY ROTTERDAM
ESPM FAAP FUNDAÇÃO GETULIO VARGAS
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY
FRANKFURT UNIVERSITY OF MUSIC & PERFORMING ARTS
FRANKLIN & MARSHALL COLLEGE
GEORGE BROWN COLLEGE
GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY
GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
GOLDSMITHS
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON HUMANITAS UNIVERSITY
INSTITUT FRANÇAIS DE LA MODE
IBMEC IE UNIVERSITY - MADRID CAMPUS
IE UNIVERSITY - SEGOVIA CAMPUS
IMPERIAL COLLEGE LONDON
INDIANA UNIVERSITY BLOOMINGTON
INSPER INSTITUTO DE TECNOLOGIA E LIDERANÇA
JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY
KOREA ADVANCED INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY (KAIST)
KING’S COLLEGE LONDON
LEIDEN UNIVERSITY COLLEGE THE HAGUE
LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS AND POLITICAL SCIENCE,
UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
CHICAGO LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
NEW ORLEANS LYNN UNIVERSITY
MARIST COLLEGE
MCGILL UNIVERSITY
MCMASTER UNIVERSITY
MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY
MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE
NANYANG TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITY
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY
NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE
PARSONS SCHOOL OF DESIGN
PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY
POMONA COLLEGE
PURDUE UNIVERSITY
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY
SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY
SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO
SEMMELWEIS UNIVERSITY
STANFORD UNIVERSITY
STRATHCLYDE UNIVERSITY
SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY
SUNY AT ALBANY
SWARTHMORE COLLEGE
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
ECHNISCHE UNIVERSITEIT EINDHOVEN
THE COLLEGE OF WOOSTER
THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY
THE NEW SCHOOL
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN
TILBURG UNIVERSITY
TRINITY COLLEGE
TUFTS UNIVERSITY
TULANE UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF THE ARTS LONDON - LONDON COLLEGE OF FASHION
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE MAASTRICHT
UNIVERSITY OF AMSTERDAM
UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO
UNIVERSITY OF GRONINGEN
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT URBANA-CHAMPAIGN
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN-ANN ARBOR
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA-TWIN CITIES
UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO T
HE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
UNIVERSITY OF WESTMINSTER
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON
UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY
VRIJE UNIVERSITEIT AMSTERDAM
WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY
WELLESLEY COLLEGE
WILLIAMS COLLEGE
YALE UNIVERSITY


You listed 125 colleges...so, not sure how all this adds up if you claim multiple kids are attending Harvard et al (though perhaps, they were accepted but didn't attend).

Still, you listed more colleges than students.
Anonymous
Students get multiple acceptances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Students get multiple acceptances.


The list is matriculations...not acceptances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Students get multiple acceptances.


The list is matriculations...not acceptances.


The true definition of "matriculate" is to be admitted. In recent years, people have spontaneously decided that it means enrollment. I knew someone would be=itch about that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Students get multiple acceptances.


The list is matriculations...not acceptances.


The true definition of "matriculate" is to be admitted. In recent years, people have spontaneously decided that it means enrollment. I knew someone would be=itch about that.


To prevent further argument

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/matriculate

matriculate
verb [ I ] formal
US /məˈtrɪk.jə.leɪt/ UK /məˈtrɪk.jə.leɪt/

to be formally admitted to study at a university or college
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Given the slim odds for even a student with perfect stats, it is way too early, at least from a standpoint that prioritizes mental health.

I would encourage them to find activities they enjoy and also to do some true service that benefits their community. Hands on grunt work, not creating a fake non profit. If those things translate into resume boosters, great, but if not, at least they did something more meaningful than test prep.

- double grad of two schools on your list who won't be encouraging my kids to follow


This is good advice. I didn’t start to seriously think about Stanford until my junior year when I already had 2.5 years of perfect high school grades and a full IB course load under my belt and was taking calculus. That said, my parents had created the conditions in which I had interesting and unique hobbies that they supported financially, which ultimately made me stand out from the applicant pool. To the extent that they were extremely invested in the outcome of my application they didn’t show it (although I was a triple legacy applicant so I’m sure they cared to some degree)…


I am curious about the interesting and unique hobbies you mentioned.

Which hobbies should we make DD do to be a more attractive candidate for the Ivies?
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