Have you ever been terminated? How did you recover?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm about 51% certain it's happening to me tomorrow. I'm not shocked, just bummed bc we're broke and in the throes of kids activities and life.

Me again. I was right. Day 1 begins.

I’m sorry OP. I hope you find the next thing soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm about 51% certain it's happening to me tomorrow. I'm not shocked, just bummed bc we're broke and in the throes of kids activities and life.

Me again. I was right. Day 1 begins.

I’m sorry OP. I hope you find the next thing soon.

Thanks. To be clear, I'm not OP. I commented at 20:20 yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been. Multiple times. I have very severe learning disabilities and just screw up a lot. Unfortunately I can't change careers because I can only do this one thing to support myself. I also got fired as a teenager from part time jobs too. When I got fired from a clothing store I didn't really do anything beyond drive home crying. I didn't know why I got fired. I got fired from being a camp counselor and also didn't know why. I made up an excuse and quit at my ice cream shop job before they could fire me - I couldn't understand the instructions on how to make ice cream related drinks like root beer floats and whatever else there was. I went home hysterically crying from that.

At some jobs when they'd fire me they would be really kind and write me a letter of reference and let me know they wouldn't block unemployment. Basically, you go home, cry, then pull yourself together and start looking for a new job. The cycle never really stops.

What is your learning disability, if you don’t mind sharing? You’ve posted before, and I’m so reminded of my DD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have been. Multiple times. I have very severe learning disabilities and just screw up a lot. Unfortunately I can't change careers because I can only do this one thing to support myself. I also got fired as a teenager from part time jobs too. When I got fired from a clothing store I didn't really do anything beyond drive home crying. I didn't know why I got fired. I got fired from being a camp counselor and also didn't know why. I made up an excuse and quit at my ice cream shop job before they could fire me - I couldn't understand the instructions on how to make ice cream related drinks like root beer floats and whatever else there was. I went home hysterically crying from that.

At some jobs when they'd fire me they would be really kind and write me a letter of reference and let me know they wouldn't block unemployment. Basically, you go home, cry, then pull yourself together and start looking for a new job. The cycle never really stops.

What is your learning disability, if you don’t mind sharing? You’ve posted before, and I’m so reminded of my DD.

And what is the “one thing” you can do?

[Anonymous]

I quit before I was fired. I had a huge personality conflict with my PM. I could sense she was angling to fire me so I quit. It was her first and last PM position.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I fired 2 employees (different occasions) for sexual harassment. Both were 12-15 years ago and neither seems to have worked for another company since although they did both apply at different points because there were reference checks. They both have their own LLC and have been consulting per LinkedIn and people that have kept in touch with them.

Why not let them quit. We call them my old job “involuntary leavers”.

HR verbally tells you and says you can quit on the spot voluntarily right this minute. You will get no reference good or bad but we will confirm title and dates of employment. Or don’t quit, we fire for cause, no unemployment and black mark resume. Plus we open full investigation.

Because they sexually harassed women. That’s not an opportunity to offer to allow someone to resign.

And there was no reason to dance around with references. When they applied for new jobs I was very clear why the person was fired. If the new company wanted to take a chance the behavior wouldn’t happen again, that’s on them.

Must be a tiny company because a big company with lawyers wouldn't do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fired 2 employees (different occasions) for sexual harassment. Both were 12-15 years ago and neither seems to have worked for another company since although they did both apply at different points because there were reference checks. They both have their own LLC and have been consulting per LinkedIn and people that have kept in touch with them.

Why not let them quit. We call them my old job “involuntary leavers”.

HR verbally tells you and says you can quit on the spot voluntarily right this minute. You will get no reference good or bad but we will confirm title and dates of employment. Or don’t quit, we fire for cause, no unemployment and black mark resume. Plus we open full investigation.

Because they sexually harassed women. That’s not an opportunity to offer to allow someone to resign.

And there was no reason to dance around with references. When they applied for new jobs I was very clear why the person was fired. If the new company wanted to take a chance the behavior wouldn’t happen again, that’s on them.

Must be a tiny company because a big company with lawyers wouldn't do that.

It was not. Our lawyers at Kirkland were fully supportive of this. I’ll continue to take their advice any day over someone on DCUM that doesn’t know what they are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fired 2 employees (different occasions) for sexual harassment. Both were 12-15 years ago and neither seems to have worked for another company since although they did both apply at different points because there were reference checks. They both have their own LLC and have been consulting per LinkedIn and people that have kept in touch with them.

Why not let them quit. We call them my old job “involuntary leavers”.

HR verbally tells you and says you can quit on the spot voluntarily right this minute. You will get no reference good or bad but we will confirm title and dates of employment. Or don’t quit, we fire for cause, no unemployment and black mark resume. Plus we open full investigation.

Because they sexually harassed women. That’s not an opportunity to offer to allow someone to resign.

And there was no reason to dance around with references. When they applied for new jobs I was very clear why the person was fired. If the new company wanted to take a chance the behavior wouldn’t happen again, that’s on them.

Must be a tiny company because a big company with lawyers wouldn't do that.

It was not. Our lawyers at Kirkland were fully supportive of this. I’ll continue to take their advice any day over someone on DCUM that doesn’t know what they are talking about. [/quote

You should seek therapy.

[Anonymous]

It happened to me once many years ago. I moved from a boring but comfortable job a
to a similar role in another sector. I liked the hiring manager and he bumped up my salary by 20k. Everything went well at first but within a few months I knew it was a mistake. I had the skills but was a poor fit culturally and some things were falling apart for the team. Of course, I became the scapegoat for the manager— he need to save his rear and that meant pointing his finger at someone—and that someone was me. He let me go claiming they needed to restructure and gave me the “good fit bad fit” speech. A week later, my previous employer took me back and matched my new higher salary requirement.

Sometimes it takes getting knocked around a bit to understand where you belong snd appreciate the employers who need you— and even LIKE you.

[Anonymous]

My DD 25 was just fired (the company downsized and she was selected (along with thousands) to be terminated) from her 1st career position after college. She is devastated and is having a hard time feeling good about herself. She is currently looking for a therapist. I saw it coming and kept warning her, but she didn't listen to me. I'm angry and sad for her at the same time.
It's now going on 7 weeks and she has submitted over 70 applications. She's in corporate retail and not many jobs are opened. I send postings when I see them. I continue to pray that she can bounce back from this.
BTW, I haven't let her know how angry and disappointed I am in her. That conversation will come once she secures a new position. The conversation has to happen so she doesn't make the same mistakes again.

[Anonymous]

I'm an HR leader and have let many people go for cause and have also run layoffs. They all land on their feet somewhere else. A bad employee for us could be a great employee for someone else, with a different org structure, culture or something we aren't. Being let go from a job just doesn't carry the same stigma it used to.

When we look at candidates and see gaps in their resume of 6 months or less, I all I really want to know is that they did something good for their careers during that time (got a certification, did some good networking to find a new role, even read a couple of books relevant for their next role). Longer gaps might be more of a red flag but reasons like child/elder care, illness, etc., are understandable so as long as their skills are still current, we would consider someone with a longer gap.

Career growth is no longer a perfectly linear upward line from undergraduate graduation to retirement. Some of the strongest leaders I've worked with had significant setbacks in their careers, or took lateral moves to learn new things before moving up.

I know it's hard while going through it (I've been caught in a layoff, too), but it usually works out for the better for most people.

[julie73]

I was fired from my job and it completely took me by surprise. I had never been fired before and looking back now, I should've seen it coming. My new boss was inexperienced, yet had great support and promise from higher up in the company. I kept her out of trouble and helped her along for the first 6 months. Soon after, she started to nitpick and criticize me in front of other employees. I made complaints about her, but unfortunately they were only unofficial, so all I ever got was, "Be patient with her...she's new and still learning." One day I was called in and told that I wasn't performing to expectationsand was unprofessional... boom...I was fired.

I was devastated and didn't get a new job for quite a while. I was doubting my abilities and my self worth plunged. I was just beginning to recover from my divorce when this happened and felt even worse as a mom.

As time has gone onward, I have a great job now and I have slowly regained my confidence and my realization that it was not about my ability and skill. I still get a bit nervous sometimes at work and wonder if I'm getting the sudden boot, but it's just my paranoia.

[Anonymous]

I was let go from a nanny job. The grandma micromanaged me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD 25 was just fired (the company downsized and she was selected (along with thousands) to be terminated) from her 1st career position after college. She is devastated and is having a hard time feeling good about herself. She is currently looking for a therapist. I saw it coming and kept warning her, but she didn't listen to me. I'm angry and sad for her at the same time.
It's now going on 7 weeks and she has submitted over 70 applications. She's in corporate retail and not many jobs are opened. I send postings when I see them. I continue to pray that she can bounce back from this.
BTW, I haven't let her know how angry and disappointed I am in her. That conversation will come once she secures a new position. The conversation has to happen so she doesn't make the same mistakes again.

Eeek! Your DD is 25! You should keep your mouth shut.

[Anonymous]

julie73 wrote:I was fired from my job and it completely took me by surprise. I had never been fired before and looking back now, I should've seen it coming. My new boss was inexperienced, yet had great support and promise from higher up in the company. I kept her out of trouble and helped her along for the first 6 months. Soon after, she started to nitpick and criticize me in front of other employees. I made complaints about her, but unfortunately they were only unofficial, so all I ever got was, "Be patient with her...she's new and still learning." One day I was called in and told that I wasn't performing to expectationsand was unprofessional... boom...I was fired.

I was devastated and didn't get a new job for quite a while. I was doubting my abilities and my self worth plunged. I was just beginning to recover from my divorce when this happened and felt even worse as a mom.

As time has gone onward, I have a great job now and I have slowly regained my confidence and my realization that it was not about my ability and skill. I still get a bit nervous sometimes at work and wonder if I'm getting the sudden boot, but it's just my paranoia.

Went through something similar years ago but got out before my manager could fire me. Same thing, inexperienced and decided to show the boys how tough she was by criticizing and nitpicking.

The experience taught me that management protects management regardless of how competent someone is. You’ll never win in a situation like that. My lousy manager is still there years later. They promoted her, of course.