AP LIT with 4.0 GPA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so over the focus on school attendance. Many kids can pass the work presented in class without much effort and in less time. Let them. If a kid is rolling in late to class and doesn't participate in discussion and still is able to pull As on tests - they are demonstrating that they know the material, which is the goal of class.

My DD sat in an IB History class and read on her iphone all class. She got an A in the class and a 7 on the IB test. She couldn't be bothered to participate in class discussion because, from her perspective, it was very low level and kids said things that were wildly factual incorrect.

The teacher was very angry in the beginning and kept hassling her even though she was quiet and never disrupted class, and, frankly, was reading stuff on her phone that was far more edifying.

Again a kid who is getting all As on tests should basically not be hassled about anything unless they are disrupting class.

Interacting in discussions and with co-workers is part of your daughter's future. She needs to learn to do it. If she can't function in a group, maybe you should re-consider public school.

The assumption that kids aren't attending or participating because there is something wrong with them (they're incapable or delinquent) is exactly the kind of unfounded assumption I am calling out.

She was perfectly capable of functioning in a group and participated in many leadership roles in HS. No HS teacher thought she was incapable of group participation. The issue, frankly, was - if she was getting an A, why should she spend her time in unproductive ways?

She went on to graduate with multiple Ivy undergrad and grad degrees and has had great work opportunities and a terrific network of friends and colleagues.

Hassling kids and being overly punitive about minor things like tardy violations is not going to improve student success. It is the school system's way of blame casting onto students rather than taking a hard look at themselves and how they are educating.

Again. YOU are the problem. Absences and tardiness are not minor things. Attendance in school is a BARE MINIMUM requirement of being a student. Her tardiness violations are not "minor."

You are enabling a dangerous sense of entitlement in your child that is going to limit her future. You need to get it together. Therapy is probably necessary cause you are out of order and out of touch with reality.

[Anonymous]

this thread is the very definition of "entitled"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so over the focus on school attendance. Many kids can pass the work presented in class without much effort and in less time. Let them. If a kid is rolling in late to class and doesn't participate in discussion and still is able to pull As on tests - they are demonstrating that they know the material, which is the goal of class.

My DD sat in an IB History class and read on her iphone all class. She got an A in the class and a 7 on the IB test. She couldn't be bothered to participate in class discussion because, from her perspective, it was very low level and kids said things that were wildly factual incorrect.

The teacher was very angry in the beginning and kept hassling her even though she was quiet and never disrupted class, and, frankly, was reading stuff on her phone that was far more edifying.

Again a kid who is getting all As on tests should basically not be hassled about anything unless they are disrupting class.

She’ll never make it through college acting like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to talk to the teacher and work something out and be very apologetic. It's just her waking up late or is there a transportation issue that's not in her control?

+1
At our school, they threaten draconian punishments, but actually for a first offense, they usually ask for the student to meet with the counselor and/or write a letter acknowledging they won't do it again. You may just be in the 'threat' portion of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so over the focus on school attendance. Many kids can pass the work presented in class without much effort and in less time. Let them. If a kid is rolling in late to class and doesn't participate in discussion and still is able to pull As on tests - they are demonstrating that they know the material, which is the goal of class.

My DD sat in an IB History class and read on her iphone all class. She got an A in the class and a 7 on the IB test. She couldn't be bothered to participate in class discussion because, from her perspective, it was very low level and kids said things that were wildly factual incorrect.

The teacher was very angry in the beginning and kept hassling her even though she was quiet and never disrupted class, and, frankly, was reading stuff on her phone that was far more edifying.

Again a kid who is getting all As on tests should basically not be hassled about anything unless they are disrupting class.

Uhmm... the pont of educating young people is not just to test well. School is more than test taking and getting A's. Part of growing up is to be patient. Just because a kid did not disrupt the class, does not mean that their whipping out a phone to read something more "edifying" is not an example of failing to exercise delayed gratification. This lack of self control is becoming a societal problem.

And the arrogance and disdain in the PP’s post is staggering. Straight As don’t justify rudeness and disrespect.

I read many a book in class over the years, but only after I’d finished my work. I’d never have dared to do it while the teacher was talking—I was raised better than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so over the focus on school attendance. Many kids can pass the work presented in class without much effort and in less time. Let them. If a kid is rolling in late to class and doesn't participate in discussion and still is able to pull As on tests - they are demonstrating that they know the material, which is the goal of class.

My DD sat in an IB History class and read on her iphone all class. She got an A in the class and a 7 on the IB test. She couldn't be bothered to participate in class discussion because, from her perspective, it was very low level and kids said things that were wildly factual incorrect.

The teacher was very angry in the beginning and kept hassling her even though she was quiet and never disrupted class, and, frankly, was reading stuff on her phone that was far more edifying.

Again a kid who is getting all As on tests should basically not be hassled about anything unless they are disrupting class.

She’ll never make it through college acting like this.

She may make it, but I'm certainly not writing her a letter of recommendation for anything. And you'd be amazed how many of those are needed for so many things.

- College prof

[Anonymous]

I'd also add that this behavior is unlikely to be tolerated in the professional workplace...