Montgomery County Board of Education being sued by 3 teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Was this her MCPS email or her personal email?

MCPS email. But as she pointed out, other MCPS employees had LGBTQ statement, Black Lives Matter, etc. in their email signatures and were not similarly punished.

Advocating for human rights isn't the same as antisemitism. BLM or LGBTQ isn't controversial. The only groups with which they are called hate groups.

That’s true, but advocating for the rights of Palestinians which was LITERALLY what she did, IS advocating for human rights.

(Did you even actually read what you wrote???!)

If she's not smart enough to keep her thinking out of her public work email, then she is not smart enough to be a teacher. She deserves to be fired. I would feel the same if it was a pro-Israel statement in a message line. Controversial politics should NOT be part of your signature line as a public school teacher.

But they allowed BLM and Trans-Rights statements which are also controversial political associations.

Advocating for Black people to be treated humanely or for basic human rights for gay people isn't as controversial as advocating for the elimination of Israel.

Again, she wasn’t advocating for the elimination of Israel. She was ADVOCATING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR PALESTINIANS. How can I make this any clearer?

It’s so nice that you want to speak for them after the fact. Are you also saying that about the Facebook images? You don’t get to change the meaning to fit your narrative. You should not be defending this. You are in the wrong.

And just because others also broke the rule with supporting non-controversial topics, does not change how wrong these three individuals were.

This thread was specifically about the email signature which didn’t say “kill all Jews” as you seem to believe it said literally “Palestinians will be free” which is literally a call for human rights for Palestinians. I think you are being deliberately stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Was this her MCPS email or her personal email?

MCPS email. But as she pointed out, other MCPS employees had LGBTQ statement, Black Lives Matter, etc. in their email signatures and were not similarly punished.

Advocating for human rights isn't the same as antisemitism. BLM or LGBTQ isn't controversial. The only groups with which they are called hate groups.

That’s true, but advocating for the rights of Palestinians which was LITERALLY what she did, IS advocating for human rights.

(Did you even actually read what you wrote???!)

If she's not smart enough to keep her thinking out of her public work email, then she is not smart enough to be a teacher. She deserves to be fired. I would feel the same if it was a pro-Israel statement in a message line. Controversial politics should NOT be part of your signature line as a public school teacher.

But they allowed BLM and Trans-Rights statements which are also controversial political associations.

Advocating for Black people to be treated humanely or for basic human rights for gay people isn't as controversial as advocating for the elimination of Israel.

Again, she wasn’t advocating for the elimination of Israel. She was ADVOCATING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR PALESTINIANS. How can I make this any clearer?

It’s so nice that you want to speak for them after the fact. Are you also saying that about the Facebook images? You don’t get to change the meaning to fit your narrative. You should not be defending this. You are in the wrong.

And just because others also broke the rule with supporting non-controversial topics, does not change how wrong these three individuals were.

This thread was specifically about the email signature which didn’t say “kill all Jews” as you seem to believe it said literally “Palestinians will be free” which is literally a call for human rights for Palestinians. I think you are being deliberately stupid.

She’s a teacher. She doesn’t have the same free speech as the general public. She broke the contract. She’s facing the consequences of breaking the contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher in MCPS. I have a coworker who wears watermelon earrings daily, and follows trends on what days to wear red or black. She is making her statement loud and clear for anyone looking.

For myself and a few other Jewish teachers, we are completely uncomfortable with her displays. They don’t belong in a classroom. I don’t say anything, but that doesn’t mean they’re not noticed. Luckily we are in an elementary school where the kids don’t realize, but I can’t even imagine this in a middle or high school. How inappropriate!

These three teachers took it even further. Their actions made their neighbors feel targeted. This should not be tolerated in MCPS and I’m glad they got what they deserved.

What's sad in this PC culture is that if I happen to like watermelon as a fruit (which I do) and I happen to have watermelon earrings or a T-shirt with a watermelon on it (remember the pineapple ones), now I shouldn't wear it because teachers like you will be uncomfortable?! I do have apple (fruit) earrings that were gifted by a friend. Does apple stand for something too? Should I research if it does and not wear them because it may just make someone uncomfortable? I happen to also like the colors of a watermelon (even before Oct 7), so now I shouldn't wear black, red, or white? Maybe I should put a signature on my emails (or my forehead) to read - I did not pick out something to wear based on what is happening in the world it just happened to be in my closet and wearable this morning. But then I'll probably question the "what's happening in the world" part and wonder if someone will find that uncomfortable. Insert whatever object you like and everything will be controversial! Too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was this her MCPS email or her personal email?

MCPS email. But as she pointed out, other MCPS employees had LGBTQ statement, Black Lives Matter, etc. in their email signatures and were not similarly punished.

Advocating for human rights isn't the same as antisemitism. BLM or LGBTQ isn't controversial. The only groups with which they are called hate groups.

BLM, LGBT, river to sea ... all of them are political. It should be kept out of schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher in MCPS. I have a coworker who wears watermelon earrings daily, and follows trends on what days to wear red or black. She is making her statement loud and clear for anyone looking.

For myself and a few other Jewish teachers, we are completely uncomfortable with her displays. They don’t belong in a classroom. I don’t say anything, but that doesn’t mean they’re not noticed. Luckily we are in an elementary school where the kids don’t realize, but I can’t even imagine this in a middle or high school. How inappropriate!

These three teachers took it even further. Their actions made their neighbors feel targeted. This should not be tolerated in MCPS and I’m glad they got what they deserved.

What's sad in this PC culture is that if I happen to like watermelon as a fruit (which I do) and I happen to have watermelon earrings or a T-shirt with a watermelon on it (remember the pineapple ones), now I shouldn't wear it because teachers like you will be uncomfortable?! I do have apple (fruit) earrings that were gifted by a friend. Does apple stand for something too? Should I research if it does and not wear them because it may just make someone uncomfortable? I happen to also like the colors of a watermelon (even before Oct 7), so now I shouldn't wear black, red, or white? Maybe I should put a signature on my emails (or my forehead) to read - I did not pick out something to wear based on what is happening in the world it just happened to be in my closet and wearable this morning. But then I'll probably question the "what's happening in the world" part and wonder if someone will find that uncomfortable. Insert whatever object you like and everything will be controversial! Too much.

Are watermelons antisemitic now? Wtf am I missing here?!

[Anonymous]

Are the descriptions in this article about the Westland teachers posts accurate? I get that they are political, but I don't see how they're antisemitic.

https://moco360.media/2023/12/12/westland-middle-teacher-on-leave-under-investigation-for-social-media-posts/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. I hope Maryland chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations also files against Bethany Mandel for her hate speech. She has no business running for BOE.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was this her MCPS email or her personal email?

MCPS email. But as she pointed out, other MCPS employees had LGBTQ statement, Black Lives Matter, etc. in their email signatures and were not similarly punished.

Advocating for human rights isn't the same as antisemitism. BLM or LGBTQ isn't controversial. The only groups with which they are called hate groups.

That’s true, but advocating for the rights of Palestinians which was LITERALLY what she did, IS advocating for human rights.

(Did you even actually read what you wrote???!)

If she's not smart enough to keep her thinking out of her public work email, then she is not smart enough to be a teacher. She deserves to be fired. I would feel the same if it was a pro-Israel statement in a message line. Controversial politics should NOT be part of your signature line as a public school teacher.

But they allowed BLM and Trans-Rights statements which are also controversial political associations.

Advocating for Black people to be treated humanely or for basic human rights for gay people isn't as controversial as advocating for the elimination of Israel.

Again, she wasn’t advocating for the elimination of Israel. She was ADVOCATING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR PALESTINIANS. How can I make this any clearer?

It’s so nice that you want to speak for them after the fact. Are you also saying that about the Facebook images? You don’t get to change the meaning to fit your narrative. You should not be defending this. You are in the wrong.

And just because others also broke the rule with supporting non-controversial topics, does not change how wrong these three individuals were.

This thread was specifically about the email signature which didn’t say “kill all Jews” as you seem to believe it said literally “Palestinians will be free” which is literally a call for human rights for Palestinians. I think you are being deliberately stupid.

She’s a teacher. She doesn’t have the same free speech as the general public. She broke the contract. She’s facing the consequences of breaking the contract.

What? Last I checked, we ALL have the SAME "free" speech. Why even bother replying to posters such as this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:what specifically were the posts and what did the email signature say?

The email signature said from the River to the sea. And the social media posts were shared memes criticizing Israel on her personal (not public) Facebook page.

There should be a standard protocol for McPS email signatures. Name, school and job title. The rest is unnecessary. And stop with the color coded fake calligraphy. Your inbox is not a Pinterest board

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher in MCPS. I have a coworker who wears watermelon earrings daily, and follows trends on what days to wear red or black. She is making her statement loud and clear for anyone looking.

For myself and a few other Jewish teachers, we are completely uncomfortable with her displays. They don’t belong in a classroom. I don’t say anything, but that doesn’t mean they’re not noticed. Luckily we are in an elementary school where the kids don’t realize, but I can’t even imagine this in a middle or high school. How inappropriate!

These three teachers took it even further. Their actions made their neighbors feel targeted. This should not be tolerated in MCPS and I’m glad they got what they deserved.

Help me understand why watermelon earrings are offensive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was this her MCPS email or her personal email?

MCPS email. But as she pointed out, other MCPS employees had LGBTQ statement, Black Lives Matter, etc. in their email signatures and were not similarly punished.

Advocating for human rights isn't the same as antisemitism. BLM or LGBTQ isn't controversial. The only groups with which they are called hate groups.

That’s true, but advocating for the rights of Palestinians which was LITERALLY what she did, IS advocating for human rights.

(Did you even actually read what you wrote???!)

If she's not smart enough to keep her thinking out of her public work email, then she is not smart enough to be a teacher. She deserves to be fired. I would feel the same if it was a pro-Israel statement in a message line. Controversial politics should NOT be part of your signature line as a public school teacher.

But they allowed BLM and Trans-Rights statements which are also controversial political associations.

it shouldn't be allowed. It's idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Email signatures in MCPS shouldn't be used for politics. Do whatever you want outside of school. Not much hard otherwise we are going to have a circus where everyone will be writing all kinds of stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher in MCPS. I have a coworker who wears watermelon earrings daily, and follows trends on what days to wear red or black. She is making her statement loud and clear for anyone looking.

For myself and a few other Jewish teachers, we are completely uncomfortable with her displays. They don’t belong in a classroom. I don’t say anything, but that doesn’t mean they’re not noticed. Luckily we are in an elementary school where the kids don’t realize, but I can’t even imagine this in a middle or high school. How inappropriate!

These three teachers took it even further. Their actions made their neighbors feel targeted. This should not be tolerated in MCPS and I’m glad they got what they deserved.

Help me understand why watermelon earrings are offensive

Not agreeing that watermelons are offensive, but they have long been used as a symbol in lieu of the Palestinian flag, which has similar colors.

[jsteele]

These thread always turn political so I am going to go ahead and lock this now.