Finance programs- crypto, complex trading algorithms, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wants to do financial engineering but doesn't like math or wall street? Has he thought this through?

This thread is not at all about what the kid wants to do. He probably has no idea. This is all about what mom thinks he should do. 🙄

OP here- I don’t care what he does ultimately I just want him to find classes of interest and likeminded students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wants to do financial engineering but doesn't like math or wall street? Has he thought this through?

This thread is not at all about what the kid wants to do. He probably has no idea. This is all about what mom thinks he should do. 🙄

OP here- I don’t care what he does ultimately I just want him to find classes of interest and likeminded students

Complex trading algorithms means quant. That means a lot of math or theoretical physics. That's not a path for a kid who doesn't like pre-calc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This. Any chart reader should read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the explain why it doesn't apply to their system

[Anonymous]

My dd goes to Lehigh and has a minor in Fintech (major finance) - interning this summer at a fintech company. She loves the classes and is part of an investment club (you get Lehigh money to invest). It is obviously very heavy math, so if it's just a hobby for your ds, should probably just enjoy it as such.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like he wants to be a quant. Math is a better major for that than finance. Illinois and St. Olaf probably have the strongest undergraduate math programs that are reasonably accessible.

Math and/or comp sci. and/or physics.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't listen to DCUM on this one. Not a math crowd.

Check out Waterloo. Take a look at the Math (applied and biostats, possibly) plus some Combinatorics, Computational, Optimization, and Management areas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This. Any chart reader should read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the explain why it doesn't apply to their system

I agree that most traders underperform market-average returns.

However, if most traders underperform the average, wouldn't it follow that *some* traders consistently outperform the average? Of course, it would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This. Any chart reader should read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the explain why it doesn't apply to their system

I agree that most traders underperform market-average returns.

However, if most traders underperform the average, wouldn't it follow that *some* traders consistently outperform the average? Of course, it would.

Some outperform. None have been shown to outperform consistently.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/business/stock-market-index-funds.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This. Any chart reader should read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the explain why it doesn't apply to their system

I agree that most traders underperform market-average returns.

However, if most traders underperform the average, wouldn't it follow that *some* traders consistently outperform the average? Of course, it would.

I'd love to see your trading feed. I'd make a fortune betting against you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This is the MLM for boys path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This. Any chart reader should read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the explain why it doesn't apply to their system

I agree that most traders underperform market-average returns.

However, if most traders underperform the average, wouldn't it follow that *some* traders consistently outperform the average? Of course, it would.

Yeah: 1. the competent quants, who snatch billions of fractional cents from market operations inefficiencies each day; and 2. the best Ben Graham disciples, who happen not to run mutual funds. Not the incels in their mom's basement engaging in modern day cat entrails reading. Over the long run, those folks are just subsidizing Nos. 1 & 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wants to do financial engineering but doesn't like math or wall street? Has he thought this through?

This thread is not at all about what the kid wants to do. He probably has no idea. This is all about what mom thinks he should do. 🙄

OP here- I don’t care what he does ultimately I just want him to find classes of interest and likeminded students

You're good mom, but in this cases you don't. Your son's interest group is the people who think they can outsmart slot machines and count cards at the casino. He needs classes with different minded students to get him on a better path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

Sorry to break this to you, OP, but it sounds like he's on a clown path, not a finance one.

This. Any chart reader should read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and the explain why it doesn't apply to their system

I agree that most traders underperform market-average returns.

However, if most traders underperform the average, wouldn't it follow that *some* traders consistently outperform the average? Of course, it would.

Yeah: 1. the competent quants, who snatch billions of fractional cents from market operations inefficiencies each day; and 2. the best Ben Graham disciples, who happen not to run mutual funds. Not the incels in their mom's basement engaging in modern day cat entrails reading. Over the long run, those folks are just subsidizing Nos. 1 & 2. As someone deeply invested in optimizing my finance program, I've found that integrating stablecoins with the best apy stablecoin https://stakingy.com/stablecoins is crucial for maximizing returns while minimizing risks.

I highly recommend exploring Stakingy for a comprehensive selection of stablecoins offering competitive APY rates. Their platform provides a user-friendly interface and transparent information, making it easier to identify the best investment opportunities. Whether you're a beginner or experienced investor, diversifying your portfolio with stablecoins that can significantly enhance your finance program's stability and profitability.

[Anonymous]

Applied math or CS. Not finance. not data science.