MY DS will be getting a low grade in a class

[Anonymous]

Your child shouldn’t be in honors classes. Lesson learned for next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MY Son will be getting D in Biology Honors because the teacher never updated the gradebook since November, how do we address this? He had no idea how he did on his test, or labs teacher didn't update his gradebook till grades were due, we just found out he got a low grade and we can't even check the gradebook because its down.

How do you know it’s a D if the gradebook is down?

It’s one of two scenarios here. One, it’s a troll. Two, the kid knows they were not doing well and has given mom a heads up for when the gradebook opens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: you are blaming the teacher because your kid is getting a low-grade?

Way too many teachers in FCPS suck, don't grade on a timely basis, and don't provide meaningful feedback over the course of a quarter. It's sad because it wasn't always this way in FCPS, but the quality of teachers has gone way down and some of these people absolutely would not last more than a few weeks in a typical job.

The only thing that's suspect about OP's post is that it's now past the end of the second quarter so it seems like OP ought to have known there was an issue with the teacher and with her kid's performance prior to now (unless the teacher did their job in the first quarter and then just dropped the ball in Q2).

I’ll fight this battle all over DCUM. I’ve been teaching for 2 decades. The quality of teachers hasn’t gone down. The job has become 3 times harder, and I am not exaggerating. Teachers are accountable for more students, more tasks, more meetings, more IEPs, more discipline referrals… and if all has to get done in considerably less time than we used to get. Imagine getting 3 hours out of a 40 hour week to do half hour job. That’s teaching.

Want things back in a timely manner? Then advocate for more teacher planning time and smaller classes.

People are fleeing from this field because the job isn’t sustainable. Few people are coming to fill the vacancies. This trend will continue until working conditions are corrected.

I'm not a teacher, but I agree with this. One of my kids has SN and the system is so broken. The good teachers burn out and the bad ones can't be let go because they don't have anyone to take their place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: you are blaming the teacher because your kid is getting a low-grade?

Way too many teachers in FCPS suck, don't grade on a timely basis, and don't provide meaningful feedback over the course of a quarter. It's sad because it wasn't always this way in FCPS, but the quality of teachers has gone way down and some of these people absolutely would not last more than a few weeks in a typical job.

The only thing that's suspect about OP's post is that it's now past the end of the second quarter so it seems like OP ought to have known there was an issue with the teacher and with her kid's performance prior to now (unless the teacher did their job in the first quarter and then just dropped the ball in Q2).

I'm sorry but this is just not accurate. My kid is a good student but has a very hard course load this year. It's a lot harder. And 2 of her teachers have not updated grades in weeks, one since the first quarter test in November. I have ZERO idea what the grade will be and neither does my child. Do I think DC failed? No. Because for some reason the HW is going in and DC is turning that in. Ditto the second class. But no quizzes. No tests. So if there was something bombed or less than ideal -it happens and has happened this year- there is no chance to make it up, do test corrections, etc. It is what it is.

And in my kid's case, the semester grades to matter for a specific activity and schools will be seeing them.

Lastly, I don't want to hear about it re: test corrections and the like. I don't like them and DC hasn't needed them before this year. But if they are allowed as a matter of policy, and other kids are taking advantage, then mine will too. But, it's absurd and a complete dereliction of duty to not grade things in a way that is meaningful or useful. In this case, they were not graded at all, for weeks, over the course of an entire quarter. You want to be treated like professionals? Act like it.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Oh... were you serious? Because you are not the teacher's supervisor. And the teacher really doesn't care what you think about her.
But I hope your little rant felt good.
Maybe channel some of that energy on your super bright snowflake who is earning a D. smh

First of all, you need to grow the F up. Again, if you want to be treated like a professional, act like it. I'd never last a day in my field with failing to carry out basic duties of the position, and with comments like your post (and those of some on here).

I never said I was a supervisor but my opinions are not irrelevant either. The teacher may not care, but I know my pyramid and the will def care when I get through talking to the principal. That's a fact, whether you want to accept it or not.

My "super bright snowflake" isn't earning a "D", so you can also check your assumptions. This is about teachers fulfilling the basic requirements of their job. PERIOD. And there is nothing any parent can do in the immediate future to change the "planning time" or whatever it is you think you need to do that. I'm sorry some of you have to work on weekends. JOIN THE CLUB for just about any other profession out there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: you are blaming the teacher because your kid is getting a low-grade?

Way too many teachers in FCPS suck, don't grade on a timely basis, and don't provide meaningful feedback over the course of a quarter. It's sad because it wasn't always this way in FCPS, but the quality of teachers has gone way down and some of these people absolutely would not last more than a few weeks in a typical job.

The only thing that's suspect about OP's post is that it's now past the end of the second quarter so it seems like OP ought to have known there was an issue with the teacher and with her kid's performance prior to now (unless the teacher did their job in the first quarter and then just dropped the ball in Q2).

I'm sorry but this is just not accurate. My kid is a good student but has a very hard course load this year. It's a lot harder. And 2 of her teachers have not updated grades in weeks, one since the first quarter test in November. I have ZERO idea what the grade will be and neither does my child. Do I think DC failed? No. Because for some reason the HW is going in and DC is turning that in. Ditto the second class. But no quizzes. No tests. So if there was something bombed or less than ideal -it happens and has happened this year- there is no chance to make it up, do test corrections, etc. It is what it is.

And in my kid's case, the semester grades to matter for a specific activity and schools will be seeing them.

Lastly, I don't want to hear about it re: test corrections and the like. I don't like them and DC hasn't needed them before this year. But if they are allowed as a matter of policy, and other kids are taking advantage, then mine will too. But, it's absurd and a complete dereliction of duty to not grade things in a way that is meaningful or useful. In this case, they were not graded at all, for weeks, over the course of an entire quarter. You want to be treated like professionals? Act like it.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Oh... were you serious? Because you are not the teacher's supervisor. And the teacher really doesn't care what you think about her.
But I hope your little rant felt good.
Maybe channel some of that energy on your super bright snowflake who is earning a D. smh

The online gradebook is the worst thing to ever happen to education it makes the parents hyper-aware, anxious, and have unrealistic expectations. Our parents never knew our grades until the report cards came out, and the majority of us still grew up as functional adults.

Students also got homework and tests back within a week with feedback in red ink.

+2

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Anonymous wrote:We have this in dcps. I feel your pain. Dc is in 9th and getting two B-s in core classes due to teachers not grading in time or orovidyany feedback or time for retakes. Ugh.

Thank the teachers because your kids won’t be given retakes in college. Sounds like your kids need to prepare better and you need to focus your attention there instead of on the teachers.

Again, you can agree whether retakes are good or not. For now, their here.

And, from what my friends' kids are saying from college, indeed there are some retakes and extra credits allowed there. So that is a false statement as a generalization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP’s post doesn’t check out. The teacher supposedly isn’t grading and they just found out the kid has a D. The gradebook has been down since last week and won’t be up again until next week. How did they find out the updated grade of a D when the grades are all hidden? In MS and HS, they hide the grades for some mysterious reason to finalize grades, even through most classes are on a rolling gradebook now.

They prob saw the "D" before the gradebook went dark. This is not hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have this in dcps. I feel your pain. Dc is in 9th and getting two B-s in core classes due to teachers not grading in time or orovidyany feedback or time for retakes. Ugh.

Thank the teachers because your kids won’t be given retakes in college. Sounds like your kids need to prepare better and you need to focus your attention there instead of on the teachers.

Again, you can agree whether retakes are good or not. For now, their here.

And, from what my friends' kids are saying from college, indeed there are some retakes and extra credits allowed there. So that is a false statement as a generalization.

^^they’re here. I don’t know what crap schools you are referring to but they must be schools that accept a lot of public schools kids who expect the same low expectations they had in high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MY Son will be getting D in Biology Honors because the teacher never updated the gradebook since November, how do we address this? He had no idea how he did on his test, or labs teacher didn't update his gradebook till grades were due, we just found out he got a low grade and we can't even check the gradebook because its down.

How do you know it’s a D if the gradebook is down?

Not OP. DD says she saw her grades (not individual grades for tests and quizzes, but overall grade in the class) when she had a meeting with her counselor to do course selections. She had been concerned about one course where she felt that the last test she took before the quarter ended might have dropped her a bit.

What's with gradebook being down for two weeks anyway? The teachers have already put in the grades by Monday, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MY Son will be getting D in Biology Honors because the teacher never updated the gradebook since November, how do we address this? He had no idea how he did on his test, or labs teacher didn't update his gradebook till grades were due, we just found out he got a low grade and we can't even check the gradebook because its down.

How do you know it’s a D if the gradebook is down?

Not OP. DD says she saw her grades (not individual grades for tests and quizzes, but overall grade in the class) when she had a meeting with her counselor to do course selections. She had been concerned about one course where she felt that the last test she took before the quarter ended might have dropped her a bit.

What's with gradebook being down for two weeks anyway? The teachers have already put in the grades by Monday, right?

Our grades are due tonight. Admin checks over them tomorrow, anyone who didn't submit or did it wrong gets support tomorrow to get them in, and they are finalized Friday.

The gradebook was closed last week because kids/families check it 2387429857x per day, and double that the week before the quarter ends. It is SO SLOW to input grades, times out a dozen times per class, and is impossible to complete a basic task of posting grades if they don't close it.

[Anonymous]

My question is, if your student hasn't seen a grade since November, why hasn't they or you, asked? If I take a test and don't get it back the next day, I ask when we are getting the grade back. I'm an AP in Arlington and I promise you that I would get a million emails if a teacher pulled that. I don't buy this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: you are blaming the teacher because your kid is getting a low-grade?

Way too many teachers in FCPS suck, don't grade on a timely basis, and don't provide meaningful feedback over the course of a quarter. It's sad because it wasn't always this way in FCPS, but the quality of teachers has gone way down and some of these people absolutely would not last more than a few weeks in a typical job.

The only thing that's suspect about OP's post is that it's now past the end of the second quarter so it seems like OP ought to have known there was an issue with the teacher and with her kid's performance prior to now (unless the teacher did their job in the first quarter and then just dropped the ball in Q2).

I'm sorry but this is just not accurate. My kid is a good student but has a very hard course load this year. It's a lot harder. And 2 of her teachers have not updated grades in weeks, one since the first quarter test in November. I have ZERO idea what the grade will be and neither does my child. Do I think DC failed? No. Because for some reason the HW is going in and DC is turning that in. Ditto the second class. But no quizzes. No tests. So if there was something bombed or less than ideal -it happens and has happened this year- there is no chance to make it up, do test corrections, etc. It is what it is.

And in my kid's case, the semester grades to matter for a specific activity and schools will be seeing them.

Lastly, I don't want to hear about it re: test corrections and the like. I don't like them and DC hasn't needed them before this year. But if they are allowed as a matter of policy, and other kids are taking advantage, then mine will too. But, it's absurd and a complete dereliction of duty to not grade things in a way that is meaningful or useful. In this case, they were not graded at all, for weeks, over the course of an entire quarter. You want to be treated like professionals? Act like it.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Oh... were you serious? Because you are not the teacher's supervisor. And the teacher really doesn't care what you think about her.
But I hope your little rant felt good.
Maybe channel some of that energy on your super bright snowflake who is earning a D. smh

First of all, you need to grow the F up. Again, if you want to be treated like a professional, act like it. I'd never last a day in my field with failing to carry out basic duties of the position, and with comments like your post (and those of some on here).

I never said I was a supervisor but my opinions are not irrelevant either. The teacher may not care, but I know my pyramid and the will def care when I get through talking to the principal. That's a fact, whether you want to accept it or not.

My "super bright snowflake" isn't earning a "D", so you can also check your assumptions. This is about teachers fulfilling the basic requirements of their job. PERIOD. And there is nothing any parent can do in the immediate future to change the "planning time" or whatever it is you think you need to do that. I'm sorry some of you have to work on weekends. JOIN THE CLUB for just about any other profession out there.

You would if they doubled the number of tasks you had to complete to the point you couldn't get them all done and they had no one available to hire for your position as a replacement. Your boss would just be frustrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: you are blaming the teacher because your kid is getting a low-grade?

Way too many teachers in FCPS suck, don't grade on a timely basis, and don't provide meaningful feedback over the course of a quarter. It's sad because it wasn't always this way in FCPS, but the quality of teachers has gone way down and some of these people absolutely would not last more than a few weeks in a typical job.

The only thing that's suspect about OP's post is that it's now past the end of the second quarter so it seems like OP ought to have known there was an issue with the teacher and with her kid's performance prior to now (unless the teacher did their job in the first quarter and then just dropped the ball in Q2).

I'm sorry but this is just not accurate. My kid is a good student but has a very hard course load this year. It's a lot harder. And 2 of her teachers have not updated grades in weeks, one since the first quarter test in November. I have ZERO idea what the grade will be and neither does my child. Do I think DC failed? No. Because for some reason the HW is going in and DC is turning that in. Ditto the second class. But no quizzes. No tests. So if there was something bombed or less than ideal -it happens and has happened this year- there is no chance to make it up, do test corrections, etc. It is what it is.

And in my kid's case, the semester grades to matter for a specific activity and schools will be seeing them.

Lastly, I don't want to hear about it re: test corrections and the like. I don't like them and DC hasn't needed them before this year. But if they are allowed as a matter of policy, and other kids are taking advantage, then mine will too. But, it's absurd and a complete dereliction of duty to not grade things in a way that is meaningful or useful. In this case, they were not graded at all, for weeks, over the course of an entire quarter. You want to be treated like professionals? Act like it.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Oh... were you serious? Because you are not the teacher's supervisor. And the teacher really doesn't care what you think about her.
But I hope your little rant felt good.
Maybe channel some of that energy on your super bright snowflake who is earning a D. smh

First of all, you need to grow the F up. Again, if you want to be treated like a professional, act like it. I'd never last a day in my field with failing to carry out basic duties of the position, and with comments like your post (and those of some on here).

I never said I was a supervisor but my opinions are not irrelevant either. The teacher may not care, but I know my pyramid and the will def care when I get through talking to the principal. That's a fact, whether you want to accept it or not.

My "super bright snowflake" isn't earning a "D", so you can also check your assumptions. This is about teachers fulfilling the basic requirements of their job. PERIOD. And there is nothing any parent can do in the immediate future to change the "planning time" or whatever it is you think you need to do that. I'm sorry some of you have to work on weekends. JOIN THE CLUB for just about any other profession out there.

You would if they doubled the number of tasks you had to complete to the point you couldn't get them all done and they had no one available to hire for your position as a replacement. Your boss would just be frustrated.

Except this really has not happened in the last few years. All the crap like meetings and data reports etc above was there before the pandemic. What has happened since the pandemic is a really rough return to school. Teachers are burnt out from commuting everyday. As older teachers retired during the pandemic and others left to avoid in person everyday, more vacancies opened up. The new crop of teachers are the bottom of the barrel. Some who are teaching AP classes have never taken an AP exam and certainly couldn’t even score a 3 if they took it today. Kids are being taught by former C/D students.

The only way to get teachers to do their job with the type of employees in today’s position is to change the model so that testing and assessment is done with AI or some type of automation AND require that the teachers can pass those tests too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My question is, if your student hasn't seen a grade since November, why hasn't they or you, asked? If I take a test and don't get it back the next day, I ask when we are getting the grade back. I'm an AP in Arlington and I promise you that I would get a million emails if a teacher pulled that. I don't buy this.

DP. It happens ALLLLL the time! My DD is only in 8th grade, but every year, there have been one or two teachers who will post a few grades at the beginning of the quarter, and then none at all until the end of quarter. If the kids ask, they are told that it takes a long time to grade these tests, and they'll go in when they go in. The majority of teachers have not returned tests, or gone over the answers to the questions; they just put in the grades online, and call it done. The exceptions have been the math teachers, who do return tests, go over the problems, but then take the tests back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: you are blaming the teacher because your kid is getting a low-grade?

Way too many teachers in FCPS suck, don't grade on a timely basis, and don't provide meaningful feedback over the course of a quarter. It's sad because it wasn't always this way in FCPS, but the quality of teachers has gone way down and some of these people absolutely would not last more than a few weeks in a typical job.

The only thing that's suspect about OP's post is that it's now past the end of the second quarter so it seems like OP ought to have known there was an issue with the teacher and with her kid's performance prior to now (unless the teacher did their job in the first quarter and then just dropped the ball in Q2).

I’ll fight this battle all over DCUM. I’ve been teaching for 2 decades. The quality of teachers hasn’t gone down. The job has become 3 times harder, and I am not exaggerating. Teachers are accountable for more students, more tasks, more meetings, more IEPs, more discipline referrals… and if all has to get done in considerably less time than we used to get. Imagine getting 3 hours out of a 40 hour week to do half hour job. That’s teaching.

Want things back in a timely manner? Then advocate for more teacher planning time and smaller classes.

People are fleeing from this field because the job isn’t sustainable. Few people are coming to fill the vacancies. This trend will continue until working conditions are corrected.

Thanks teacher. How much do you feel the use of digital platforms makes your job easier or harder? From my perspective as a parent, the lack of textbooks and written materials makes it extremely difficult to keep up with my kid’s progress.