Puberty at 8?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD start showing early signs of puberty when she was about 8.5. I thought that was waaaayyy too early. I thought that maybe it's the food and the hormones being added, so I immediately switched to organic dairy w/o added hormones and the best meat where the cows/chickens, etc did not get added hormones. The puberty onset stopped. Things started back up around 11 when I think they were more appropriate. Coincidence? I don't know, but it worked for my daughter.

Possibly a coincidence since we have a similar story, and we changed nothing. In our case nothing has started back up and she is 11.

[Anonymous]

my DD is about 8.5 and has started to show signs of breast buds. She is thin, and I have pretty religiously kept our home as toxin free as possible since I even found out I was pregnant. Same with the foods I have chosen to feed her; along the lines of what would be considered healthier (organic, hormone free, less sugar...all that).

So, while I would want to believe puberty and environmental impact are directly and always related, if it is, she is an odd outlier. Sort of makes me sad, since I have truly tried to keep her away from health disruptors. I do think 8 seems pretty early for puberty to begin. I am not a doctor so perhaps it is not a big deal, just seems awfully early to me.

[Anonymous]

Race matters too. I believe Caucasian and Asian girls start puberty a year or two later on average. Also, the time span from first sign and first period varies widely. I started showing signs at 9 and got my first period at almost 13. My niece is 13 and started with pubic hair at 9 and still no period. She is very thin (filing out a bit now) and very tall. I was normal weight and height.

[Anonymous]

It’s all about diet

[Anonymous]

It’s hormone-altering plastics in the entire food chain. We do all natural, organic only etc. to try to combat this but I don’t expect it to make much of a difference. Microsplastics in breastmilk etc. It’s really sad for our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s hormone-altering plastics in the entire food chain. We do all natural, organic only etc. to try to combat this but I don’t expect it to make much of a difference. Microsplastics in breastmilk etc. It’s really sad for our kids.

+1. These things happen slowly on the macro level, but it's happening to everyone, not JUST obese kids or black kids or adopted kids. Maybe not to each individual kid, but population wide changes are happening due to the impact of environmental endocrine disruptors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your daughter overweight? Early puberty is more common in overweight girls due to the effects of obesity on hormones.

Not even the slightest bit she is all muscle and bone

It doesn’t require being overweight, although high BMI is linked to early menarche.

Early menarche is also linked to diets high in animal proteins and fats, so the early average menarche in recent decades compared to historically is thought to be linked in the rise of animal proteins as a percent of diet as our society has become more affluent on average than historically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s hormone-altering plastics in the entire food chain. We do all natural, organic only etc. to try to combat this but I don’t expect it to make much of a difference. Microsplastics in breastmilk etc. It’s really sad for our kids.

Shut up

[Anonymous]

Feel free to call your pediatrician and ask her!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hormone-altering plastics in the entire food chain. We do all natural, organic only etc. to try to combat this but I don’t expect it to make much of a difference. Microsplastics in breastmilk etc. It’s really sad for our kids.

Shut up

NP, but that’s what both my reproductive endocrinologist and my daughter’s pediatric endocrinologist said as well. Live in denial if you want, but the effects of these things in our environment are starting to show and will only get worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hormone-altering plastics in the entire food chain. We do all natural, organic only etc. to try to combat this but I don’t expect it to make much of a difference. Microsplastics in breastmilk etc. It’s really sad for our kids.

Shut up

NP, but that’s what both my reproductive endocrinologist and my daughter’s pediatric endocrinologist said as well. Live in denial if you want, but the effects of these things in our environment are starting to show and will only get worse.

DP
Don’t respond to posters who just hurl abuse like “shut up”. Seriously, it’s not worth one thought. They are trying to trigger you and succeeded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen this in overweight girls. Estrogen is stored in fat cells - more fat cells, earlier puberty. That is second to genetics, of course.

Are you an endocrinologist?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen this in overweight girls. Estrogen is stored in fat cells - more fat cells, earlier puberty. That is second to genetics, of course.

Are you an endocrinologist?

Ditto to the response that it's the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen this in overweight girls. Estrogen is stored in fat cells - more fat cells, earlier puberty. That is second to genetics, of course.

Are you an endocrinologist?

Ditto to the response that it's the truth.

I am the OP. My daughter is not overweight. She is around 30th percentile BMI. She is in fact thin and muscular. She's very strong for her age (can do multiple pull ups/gymnastics etc) but she is tiny.

She was a preemie. But this type of commentary is disgusting and in this case completely irrelevant.