EVs (Teslas) DOA in cold weather

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook

We are thinking of getting an EV but this gives me pause given today's temp. I think I'm leaning towards a hybrid.

DC area doesn't get as cold as Chicago, but has anyone with an EV had issues charging their cars today?

I live in Utah at 8000 feet and it’s cold. More cold days than Chicago and definitely way more snow. No problem charging our Tesla here in the past 4 years. Precondition (heat) battery before charging. We have driven it to snowbird, Alta, Jackson hole, sun valley, etc when the temps were frigid. No issues. The Chicago story sounds frustrating for sure, but I’m not sure why the cars died, unless they showed up to the charger with 0% battery and had no power to precondition. If you navigate to a charger, your car knows that it will charge soon and will automatically start conditioning the battery for fast charge. Just like you don’t wait until the gas tank is empty before heading to the gas station, you shouldn’t wait until the battery is dead before heading to a charger. People have teslas in Finland and park them outside in arctic conditions without an issue, as long as they don’t let the charge drop too low.

Does that mean you always have to be aware of the weather forecast to make sure your battery is preconditioned?

No - regardless of the weather, when I pick a charger on navigation, Tesla preconditions the battery when we’re close. It makes charging quicker
I’m on my third Tesla X and have had zero issues. I love that I can have it set to get warm before I get in on these cold days, and set it to keep warm when I’m running errands, so I never get in a cold car. It performs better in the winter snow and slush than my Landrover

But, that only happens when you are driving to a destination, right? What happens overnight, if your car is outside? How would you know to precondition your the battery without knowing the weather forecast?

Is your car in a garage? I think that makes a difference in regards to your car being able to charge.

If your car is outside, does the door handle freeze? This guy spent an hour trying to open his door.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-car-owners-confront-harsh-130352017.html

I don't have an EV, but I am thinking about it. Just trying to understand what I would be in for if I get one. The cold weather issues do give me pause.

[Anonymous]

Which EVs have thermal management of the battery? I'm thinking of the Bolt. The manual recommends plugging in below 32F and over 32C when it's parked, to keep the battery conditioned and promote longevity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook

We are thinking of getting an EV but this gives me pause given today's temp. I think I'm leaning towards a hybrid.

DC area doesn't get as cold as Chicago, but has anyone with an EV had issues charging their cars today?

I live in Utah at 8000 feet and it’s cold. More cold days than Chicago and definitely way more snow. No problem charging our Tesla here in the past 4 years. Precondition (heat) battery before charging. We have driven it to snowbird, Alta, Jackson hole, sun valley, etc when the temps were frigid. No issues. The Chicago story sounds frustrating for sure, but I’m not sure why the cars died, unless they showed up to the charger with 0% battery and had no power to precondition. If you navigate to a charger, your car knows that it will charge soon and will automatically start conditioning the battery for fast charge. Just like you don’t wait until the gas tank is empty before heading to the gas station, you shouldn’t wait until the battery is dead before heading to a charger. People have teslas in Finland and park them outside in arctic conditions without an issue, as long as they don’t let the charge drop too low.

Does that mean you always have to be aware of the weather forecast to make sure your battery is preconditioned?

No - regardless of the weather, when I pick a charger on navigation, Tesla preconditions the battery when we’re close. It makes charging quicker
I’m on my third Tesla X and have had zero issues. I love that I can have it set to get warm before I get in on these cold days, and set it to keep warm when I’m running errands, so I never get in a cold car. It performs better in the winter snow and slush than my Landrover

But, that only happens when you are driving to a destination, right? What happens overnight, if your car is outside? How would you know to precondition your the battery without knowing the weather forecast?

Is your car in a garage? I think that makes a difference in regards to your car being able to charge.

If your car is outside, does the door handle freeze? This guy spent an hour trying to open his door.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-car-owners-confront-harsh-130352017.html

I don't have an EV, but I am thinking about it. Just trying to understand what I would be in for if I get one. The cold weather issues do give me pause.

Our is outside and plugged in. It never gets cold.

[Anonymous]

My door handle froze on my gas guzzler too. that happens to all cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My door handle froze on my gas guzzler too. that happens to all cars.

But EVs require the batery to be alive to open the door. ICE cars don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook

We are thinking of getting an EV but this gives me pause given today's temp. I think I'm leaning towards a hybrid.

DC area doesn't get as cold as Chicago, but has anyone with an EV had issues charging their cars today?

I live in Utah at 8000 feet and it’s cold. More cold days than Chicago and definitely way more snow. No problem charging our Tesla here in the past 4 years. Precondition (heat) battery before charging. We have driven it to snowbird, Alta, Jackson hole, sun valley, etc when the temps were frigid. No issues. The Chicago story sounds frustrating for sure, but I’m not sure why the cars died, unless they showed up to the charger with 0% battery and had no power to precondition. If you navigate to a charger, your car knows that it will charge soon and will automatically start conditioning the battery for fast charge. Just like you don’t wait until the gas tank is empty before heading to the gas station, you shouldn’t wait until the battery is dead before heading to a charger. People have teslas in Finland and park them outside in arctic conditions without an issue, as long as they don’t let the charge drop too low.

Does that mean you always have to be aware of the weather forecast to make sure your battery is preconditioned?

No - regardless of the weather, when I pick a charger on navigation, Tesla preconditions the battery when we’re close. It makes charging quicker
I’m on my third Tesla X and have had zero issues. I love that I can have it set to get warm before I get in on these cold days, and set it to keep warm when I’m running errands, so I never get in a cold car. It performs better in the winter snow and slush than my Landrover

But, that only happens when you are driving to a destination, right? What happens overnight, if your car is outside? How would you know to precondition your the battery without knowing the weather forecast?

Is your car in a garage? I think that makes a difference in regards to your car being able to charge.

If your car is outside, does the door handle freeze? This guy spent an hour trying to open his door.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-car-owners-confront-harsh-130352017.html

I don't have an EV, but I am thinking about it. Just trying to understand what I would be in for if I get one. The cold weather issues do give me pause.

Our is outside and plugged in. It never gets cold.

? where are you that it never gets cold? IMO, EVs are great in places like CA and FL, not so in Chicago, as we are seeing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My door handle froze on my gas guzzler too. that happens to all cars.

But EVs require the batery to be alive to open the door. ICE cars don't.

DP
We have an EV and a PHEV. I’m not sure what you mean by this. I can unlock and lock my doors with the key fob just like any other car.

[Anonymous]

EV owners + unable to sufficiently charge at home + lack of planning/awareness + dearth of public charging infrastructure = bad headlines.

If any of those elements don’t apply to you or your situation, you will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My door handle froze on my gas guzzler too. that happens to all cars.

But EVs require the batery to be alive to open the door. ICE cars don't.

My battery died on my gas guzzler car that has electric locks and no key, and I couldn't open the door. I needed to charge the battery to open the car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook

We are thinking of getting an EV but this gives me pause given today's temp. I think I'm leaning towards a hybrid.

DC area doesn't get as cold as Chicago, but has anyone with an EV had issues charging their cars today?

I live in Utah at 8000 feet and it’s cold. More cold days than Chicago and definitely way more snow. No problem charging our Tesla here in the past 4 years. Precondition (heat) battery before charging. We have driven it to snowbird, Alta, Jackson hole, sun valley, etc when the temps were frigid. No issues. The Chicago story sounds frustrating for sure, but I’m not sure why the cars died, unless they showed up to the charger with 0% battery and had no power to precondition. If you navigate to a charger, your car knows that it will charge soon and will automatically start conditioning the battery for fast charge. Just like you don’t wait until the gas tank is empty before heading to the gas station, you shouldn’t wait until the battery is dead before heading to a charger. People have teslas in Finland and park them outside in arctic conditions without an issue, as long as they don’t let the charge drop too low.

Does that mean you always have to be aware of the weather forecast to make sure your battery is preconditioned?

No - regardless of the weather, when I pick a charger on navigation, Tesla preconditions the battery when we’re close. It makes charging quicker
I’m on my third Tesla X and have had zero issues. I love that I can have it set to get warm before I get in on these cold days, and set it to keep warm when I’m running errands, so I never get in a cold car. It performs better in the winter snow and slush than my Landrover

But, that only happens when you are driving to a destination, right? What happens overnight, if your car is outside? How would you know to precondition your the battery without knowing the weather forecast?

Is your car in a garage? I think that makes a difference in regards to your car being able to charge.

If your car is outside, does the door handle freeze? This guy spent an hour trying to open his door.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-car-owners-confront-harsh-130352017.html

I don't have an EV, but I am thinking about it. Just trying to understand what I would be in for if I get one. The cold weather issues do give me pause.

Our is outside and plugged in. It never gets cold.

? where are you that it never gets cold? IMO, EVs are great in places like CA and FL, not so in Chicago, as we are seeing.

I meant the battery. The car reads the temperature and makes sure the battery stays at an ideal temp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:EV owners + unable to sufficiently charge at home + lack of planning/awareness + dearth of public charging infrastructure = bad headlines.

If any of those elements don’t apply to you or your situation, you will be fine.

Imagine spending your days trolling DCUM to post hateful stuff about EVs
of all things.

I love my ID.4 and this morning I had zero trouble opening the door and driving downtown. The battery was 50% charged when I started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you just charge your car at home regularly and don't depend on public chargers, it's fine.
We have two EVs and it is no big deal for normal day to day driving. If you drive more than 200 miles a day you might not want one.

Charged the Tesla in the driveway this morning and now charging my Volvo in the garage.

Cold weather ranges on all EVs are abysmal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you just charge your car at home regularly and don't depend on public chargers, it's fine.
We have two EVs and it is no big deal for normal day to day driving. If you drive more than 200 miles a day you might not want one.

Charged the Tesla in the driveway this morning and now charging my Volvo in the garage.

Cold weather ranges on all EVs are abysmal.

I had an EV and lost maybe 20-30 miles of range in cold weather. It was never an issue for me. Scandinavia is like 75% EV now so if it was really a problem I think they’d know and we’d have heard.

FUD from Fox and random posters on this site is just tiresome

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you just charge your car at home regularly and don't depend on public chargers, it's fine.
We have two EVs and it is no big deal for normal day to day driving. If you drive more than 200 miles a day you might not want one.

Charged the Tesla in the driveway this morning and now charging my Volvo in the garage.

Cold weather ranges on all EVs are abysmal.

I had an EV and lost maybe 20-30 miles of range in cold weather. It was never an issue for me. Scandinavia is like 75% EV now so if it was really a problem I think they’d know and we’d have heard.

FUD from Fox and random posters on this site is just tiresome

Not really FUD. It's an actual news story...

[Anonymous]

Problem for Teslas but other EV's doing well? Maybe Tesla needs to learn a thing or two from other EVs. Remember when nobody wanted a car because they had a horse? It takes time.
If any, it's time to add chargers to Apartments and condos so all can charge at home.
Did Tesla not pay for advertising again?