Universities/colleges (preferably local nova) where rising 10th graders can take courses

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what did your school say when you mentioned this "plan" to them? What did your child say?

DC is in accelerated mathematics at the moment and requested this while planning for future courses. DH and I were not part of the planning process, nor did we come up with this. Currently doing some research. I understand that my mentioning one class made people fixated on this, but mathematics is not the only course in question. My question is also general. Whether he should take it is not my question. If it works out, great. If not, that's fine too. If anyone knows of places that take rising sophomores rather than juniors, I'd appreciate it. If no one knows, that's totally fine.

Why so snippy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what did your school say when you mentioned this "plan" to them? What did your child say?

DC is in accelerated mathematics at the moment and requested this while planning for future courses. DH and I were not part of the planning process, nor did we come up with this. Currently doing some research. I understand that my mentioning one class made people fixated on this, but mathematics is not the only course in question. My question is also general. Whether he should take it is not my question. If it works out, great. If not, that's fine too. If anyone knows of places that take rising sophomores rather than juniors, I'd appreciate it. If no one knows, that's totally fine.

Why so snippy?

People have been giving her everything but responses to what she asked.

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I don't think my university even offers algebra II. That is a high school class. I would suggest looking into CTY or community college.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d look at local private high schools for Algebra II over the summer, doesn’t seem like something most colleges would offer.

Most high schools wouldn't either, because that would be way too condensed. Even the online courses for gifted kids that we know about take longer than a summer to cover all of algebra II.

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This is a very confusing post, thus it’s hard to answer your exact question. Details are not lining up. Why would high school kid enroll in Algebra 2 through a college? As of others have already indicated, that’s not a college-level course. Maybe your kid’s boarding school can point you in the right direction for what you seek.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what did your school say when you mentioned this "plan" to them? What did your child say?

DC is in accelerated mathematics at the moment and requested this while planning for future courses. DH and I were not part of the planning process, nor did we come up with this. Currently doing some research. I understand that my mentioning one class made people fixated on this, but mathematics is not the only course in question. My question is also general. Whether he should take it is not my question. If it works out, great. If not, that's fine too. If anyone knows of places that take rising sophomores rather than juniors, I'd appreciate it. If no one knows, that's totally fine.

But OP - are you not interested in the non-college options people have provided you? Or are you set on colleges? (If so why??)

The HS courses seem more appropriate for your child. You are more likely to find Algebra II with decent rigor and full content at a highly regarded DMV private school or in a strong public school system (MOCO, FCPS) than at a 4 year selective college (Again, the reasoning being: a college course in Algebra II is likely to be very watered down and geared toward low skilled math students. Very few students attending selective colleges have only gotten to Geometry by their senior year in HS).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what did your school say when you mentioned this "plan" to them? What did your child say?

DC is in accelerated mathematics at the moment and requested this while planning for future courses. DH and I were not part of the planning process, nor did we come up with this. Currently doing some research. I understand that my mentioning one class made people fixated on this, but mathematics is not the only course in question. My question is also general. Whether he should take it is not my question. If it works out, great. If not, that's fine too. If anyone knows of places that take rising sophomores rather than juniors, I'd appreciate it. If no one knows, that's totally fine.

Algebra 2 in 10th is standard for the advanced track in public. I don't see how any college would offer it at anything other than a very remedial level

Algebra 2 in 9th grade is accelerated in private, so in 10th grader is totally normal.

Who cares whether Algebra II is normal for a 10th grader or not. It's ok that she wants her kid to take Algebra II. What's "not okay" is thinking that the place to take it would be a selective university. Algebra II is perfectly fine for her kid. But Algebra II will either NOT be offered at a selective university (because while it's good for a 10th grader, it's very low for a college Freshman) or if it is offered, it will be geared to very basics for remedial math student. It will NOT be geared as a prep-course for someone who is likely continuing on to pre-Calc, Calc and potentially more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what did your school say when you mentioned this "plan" to them? What did your child say?

DC is in accelerated mathematics at the moment and requested this while planning for future courses. DH and I were not part of the planning process, nor did we come up with this. Currently doing some research. I understand that my mentioning one class made people fixated on this, but mathematics is not the only course in question. My question is also general. Whether he should take it is not my question. If it works out, great. If not, that's fine too. If anyone knows of places that take rising sophomores rather than juniors, I'd appreciate it. If no one knows, that's totally fine.

Why so snippy?

People have been giving her everything but responses to what she asked.

Actually, several people have told her to look at high schools that offer courses over the summer, accurately pointing out that high schools are much more likely to offer Algebra 2 than colleges are. This is the actual answer.

As far as the unspecified other courses OP is interested in, that’s too vague for anyone to help much. For rising 10th, HS summer classes or (as someone else already mentioned) CTY are still probably the best bet.

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I know people who have taken Algebra and Algebra II type classes at a Community College. The courses are there for people who need a math refresher or the opportunity to build the knowledge needed to move into higher level math for college level courses. I don't know of too many 4 year Colleges that offer those level courses.

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OP, notice that the recommended length of enrollment for CTY algebra 2 is 6 months: https://cty.jhu.edu/programs/online/courses/honors-algebra-ii-al2

Algebra 2 is important. There is no way I would let my kid cram it into a summer, and she is extremely adept at math. 9's on both ISEE math sections.

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OP, are you hoping that this is a supplement to your DC taking Algebra II during the school year, or as a replacement? In other words, since he's going to be so heavily loaded on APs are you hoping to at least make his Algebra II/math path a little easier for him, or is he planning to enroll in AP Pre-Calc as a 10th grader and needs Algebra II to get in?

If it's a supplement, I'd look at Fairfax Collegiate. My DD did a couple of math courses there over previous summers and it was excellent.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you hoping that this is a supplement to your DC taking Algebra II during the school year, or as a replacement? In other words, since he's going to be so heavily loaded on APs are you hoping to at least make his Algebra II/math path a little easier for him, or is he planning to enroll in AP Pre-Calc as a 10th grader and needs Algebra II to get in?

If it's a supplement, I'd look at Fairfax Collegiate. My DD did a couple of math courses there over previous summers and it was excellent.

OP later mentioned that he wants to take algebra 2 during the summer so he can opt out of math during the year in order to take a high AP load of other classes. I do think Algebra 2 is a lot to cover well in one summer.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a 10th grader in Algebra II, he is not a preternatural math genius, and if he is not a preternatural math genius, for the love of God, please do not have him try to take an ultra-condensed Summer course. Either it will be pitched too high, and he will collapse, or it will be pitched too low, towards now-college aged kids who didn't understand high school math, and he will miss great swaths of material.

I agree with you about summer math, but I wouldn’t assume much about a kid’s math acumen based on class placement in private school. A lot of it has to do with whether you are coming from an accelerated math program in public school prior to attending the school. My kid is in Algebra II in 10th (Catholic HS) and, suprisingly, it is not the norm. Class is primarily 11th grade students. Yes, some kids that came from public are a year ahead of my DC (ie, precalculus in 10th), but most students are in Geometry in 10th.

A kid in Algebra II in 10th is moderately accelerated. But doing all of algebra II in the Summer and using it to springboard into pre-calc the next year while simultaneously taking four or five AP classes is for someone who effortlessly blows the math curve, and most of those kids would have managed to already be in higher math by that point. Summer Geometry is more common, more doable (since there are not as many direct dependencies subsequently) and it's pretty easy to find threads where people say it was a mistake letting their kids do it.

If he's already done Algebra II in something like AoPS, WTM, etc, and is just looking for something formal to check the box for transferrable credits, then I withdraw any objections.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a 10th grader in Algebra II, he is not a preternatural math genius, and if he is not a preternatural math genius, for the love of God, please do not have him try to take an ultra-condensed Summer course. Either it will be pitched too high, and he will collapse, or it will be pitched too low, towards now-college aged kids who didn't understand high school math, and he will miss great swaths of material.

I agree with you about summer math, but I wouldn’t assume much about a kid’s math acumen based on class placement in private school. A lot of it has to do with whether you are coming from an accelerated math program in public school prior to attending the school. My kid is in Algebra II in 10th (Catholic HS) and, suprisingly, it is not the norm. Class is primarily 11th grade students. Yes, some kids that came from public are a year ahead of my DC (ie, precalculus in 10th), but most students are in Geometry in 10th.

A kid in Algebra II in 10th is moderately accelerated. But doing all of algebra II in the Summer and using it to springboard into pre-calc the next year while simultaneously taking four or five AP classes is for someone who effortlessly blows the math curve, and most of those kids would have managed to already be in higher math by that point. Summer Geometry is more common, more doable (since there are not as many direct dependencies subsequently) and it's pretty easy to find threads where people say it was a mistake letting their kids do it.

If he's already done Algebra II in something like AoPS, WTM, etc, and is just looking for something formal to check the box for transferrable credits, then I withdraw any objections.

Geo is a lot more common. In some places, geo is covered in just a half year. A lot more of precalc seems to depend on algebra 2

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you hoping that this is a supplement to your DC taking Algebra II during the school year, or as a replacement? In other words, since he's going to be so heavily loaded on APs are you hoping to at least make his Algebra II/math path a little easier for him, or is he planning to enroll in AP Pre-Calc as a 10th grader and needs Algebra II to get in?

If it's a supplement, I'd look at Fairfax Collegiate. My DD did a couple of math courses there over previous summers and it was excellent.

OP later mentioned that he wants to take algebra 2 during the summer so he can opt out of math during the year in order to take a high AP load of other classes. I do think Algebra 2 is a lot to cover well in one summer.

No, she specifically responded and said this wasn't it and there was no point when no math was taken...pp is right, her question wasn't about what you think of the class, it's what schools take graduated freshmen/rising sophomores. That's it.