Paris Hilton welcomes baby girl via surrogate!

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How does surrogacy compare to jobs like construction and roofing, for health risk and pay and all that?

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Anonymous wrote:why do you care. Stop clogging up the forum talking about these worthless people buying babies. It's gross.

It’s the entertainment forum that also includes a hundreds of pages long thread about someone named Jen Hatmaker. Get over yourself.

I still don't know who Jen Hatmaker is. I just refuse to open that thread or google and find out. And if you saw my DCUM history you'd know I will click on ANYTHING.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

They get rid of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

They get rid of them.

Or they have another boy. They had a boy first, then went for the girl. Pretty reasonable. We can presume they're not going to try to have 20 kids so embryos will be trashed either way. A lot of us have no problem with that.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

They get rid of them.

Or they have another boy. They had a boy first, then went for the girl. Pretty reasonable. We can presume they're not going to try to have 20 kids so embryos will be trashed either way. A lot of us have no problem with that.

I think they’ll have at least one more too. But if they really have 20 embryos left, then yea, they’re going to destroy the bulk of them at some point. Not sure what PP is expecting by asking what is going to happen to the leftover embryos.

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Anonymous wrote:Surprise! Paris have a baby girl now, London. I had a feeling it would be quick after their first, considering she is already 42. I wonder if there will be a third, or is her family complete now?

I meant to say Paris and Carter have a baby girl now.

Carter already has a baby girl.

She’s not a baby and Carter isn’t part of her life. Now he has a baby girl.

He didn’t abandon anyone. He got someone pregnant. It wasn’t a serious relationship. If he’d had a choice, he would have had an abortion. The mom didn’t want one and decided to go and have the baby anyway. He provides her with financial support.

It’s not fair to force a man to be a father if it wasn’t his choice to be one anymore than it’s fair to force a woman to have an unwanted pregnancy.

There’s a great way for men to avoid that problem.

Umm yes women too. You just made a prolife argument.

It’s the responsibility of the person who doesn’t want more kids to be more proactive with their birth control.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

They get rid of them.

Or they have another boy. They had a boy first, then went for the girl. Pretty reasonable. We can presume they're not going to try to have 20 kids so embryos will be trashed either way. A lot of us have no problem with that.

I think they’ll have at least one more too. But if they really have 20 embryos left, then yea, they’re going to destroy the bulk of them at some point. Not sure what PP is expecting by asking what is going to happen to the leftover embryos.

Why make 20 when there’s no way to possibly use them all?

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Anonymous wrote:Surprise! Paris have a baby girl now, London. I had a feeling it would be quick after their first, considering she is already 42. I wonder if there will be a third, or is her family complete now?

What does her age have to do with it? It's not like she actually carries or births the babies, much less raise them. She has nannies and trots the kids out for photos.Wonder if she'll ever publicly acknowledge her stepchild since it doesn't lend to her perfect family image.

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I guess when you're famous you can get away with buying humans.

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Anonymous wrote:Surprise! Paris have a baby girl now, London. I had a feeling it would be quick after their first, considering she is already 42. I wonder if there will be a third, or is her family complete now?

What does her age have to do with it? It's not like she actually carries or births the babies, much less raise them. She has nannies and trots the kids out for photos.Wonder if she'll ever publicly acknowledge her stepchild since it doesn't lend to her perfect family image.

It’s still better to become a mother at a younger age so you can live longer to see your kids grow up, regardless if you actually carry them. I’m sure that’s why they rushed #2. You seriously don’t get that?

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No I don't get that. Regular non-famous women have kids at 40 without all the hired help she has the luxury to afford. She'll be in her 60s when her children are adults. God forbid.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

They get rid of them.

Or they have another boy. They had a boy first, then went for the girl. Pretty reasonable. We can presume they're not going to try to have 20 kids so embryos will be trashed either way. A lot of us have no problem with that.

I think they’ll have at least one more too. But if they really have 20 embryos left, then yea, they’re going to destroy the bulk of them at some point. Not sure what PP is expecting by asking what is going to happen to the leftover embryos.

Why make 20 when there’s no way to possibly use them all?

They probably made way more than 20, just to blow your mind. They likely made as many embryos as she had eggs for, sent them all off for testing, and trashed the 40-60% that came back aneuploid. Because that's how IVF with testing works. Now they have a truly impressive number of embryos, some of which may be transplanted, and some of that number may ever implant, and of that number develop into a fetus, and of that number result in a live birth.

Your fantasy that every embryo created is a living child that must be protected by internet strangers is strange, and false. It would be great if a person going through IVF could say "just create two embryos, because I only want two children" but that's not how it works. If only.

- currently injecting myself with hormones nightly in the hope that some of my current follicles become mature eggs which can be whittled away through the IVF winnowing process until I hopefully, maybe, if I'm lucky, get a single kid

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Anonymous wrote:No I don't get that. Regular non-famous women have kids at 40 without all the hired help she has the luxury to afford. She'll be in her 60s when her children are adults. God forbid.

Gd forbid what, exactly?

Lot of mommy superiors on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her memoir and had a better impression of her and then I read this regarding the new baby:
“When I was in ‘The Simple Life,’ I had to be in a room when a woman was giving birth and that traumatized me as well,” she told the publication. “But I want a family so bad, it’s just the physical part of doing it. I’m just so scared… childbirth and death are the two things that scare me more than anything in the world.”

She also talked a lot about wanting a girl in the memoir. Didn't come out and say they gender selected but definitely hinted at it.

And now I'm back to thinking she's too vain and selfish to have two children.

She said they have a lot of frozen eggs and embryos so she could have easily picked her preferred gender. I’m inclined to be a bit sympathetic to her after reading about her terrible experience at that boarding school.

She said they had 20 boy embryos. Wonder what is happening to them now that she got her girl? I guess she doesn’t care.

Same thing that happens to 19 of them if she had a boy, and all the sperm a man makes almost every week as the egg a woman ejects almost every month.

Wtf are you talking about? A woman “ejects” an egg?

What is happening to the frozen boy embryos that they made and are on ice now? That is completely different from an unfertilized egg being released every month and not being fertilized.

You are an idiot.

They get rid of them.

Or they have another boy. They had a boy first, then went for the girl. Pretty reasonable. We can presume they're not going to try to have 20 kids so embryos will be trashed either way. A lot of us have no problem with that.

I think they’ll have at least one more too. But if they really have 20 embryos left, then yea, they’re going to destroy the bulk of them at some point. Not sure what PP is expecting by asking what is going to happen to the leftover embryos.

Why make 20 when there’s no way to possibly use them all?

They probably made way more than 20, just to blow your mind. They likely made as many embryos as she had eggs for, sent them all off for testing, and trashed the 40-60% that came back aneuploid. Because that's how IVF with testing works. Now they have a truly impressive number of embryos, some of which may be transplanted, and some of that number may ever implant, and of that number develop into a fetus, and of that number result in a live birth.

Your fantasy that every embryo created is a living child that must be protected by internet strangers is strange, and false. It would be great if a person going through IVF could say "just create two embryos, because I only want two children" but that's not how it works. If only.

- currently injecting myself with hormones nightly in the hope that some of my current follicles become mature eggs which can be whittled away through the IVF winnowing process until I hopefully, maybe, if I'm lucky, get a single kid

I also did IVF and totally disagree. They very gratuitously made 20+ embryos bc they wanted a girl. They could have just had 2+ boys. Normal ppl who want kids are not doing a gazillion cycles for gender selection. I think that's immoral. I say that as someone who is complete pro-IVF and pro-choice. It is gross behavior that give IVF a bad rap.