AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides

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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


I'm the PP who asked what class you think my child should take. It's odd you think 2 classes were dumbed down because my child did well in them and not that a class that is brand new and never been offered before may be the issue. That's rich! You're just going to ignore all the people in this thread who have kids stuggling in the course? My child has an A- in AP Precalculus. I can assure you her previous classes where not dumbed down but this class is hard. She's a straight A student. NEVER had an A- in anything, let alone math. And fun fact: her AP Precalc teacher was also her Alg 2 HN teacher. I guess, according to you, he dumbed it down last year but not this year. Lol!
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


I'm the PP who asked what class you think my child should take. It's odd you think 2 classes were dumbed down because my child did well in them and not that a class that is brand new and never been offered before may be the issue. That's rich! You're just going to ignore all the people in this thread who have kids stuggling in the course? My child has an A- in AP Precalculus. I can assure you her previous classes where not dumbed down but this class is hard. She's a straight A student. NEVER had an A- in anything, let alone math. And fun fact: her AP Precalc teacher was also her Alg 2 HN teacher. I guess, according to you, he dumbed it down last year but not this year. Lol!


My goodness! I hit a nerve
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


I'm the PP who asked what class you think my child should take. It's odd you think 2 classes were dumbed down because my child did well in them and not that a class that is brand new and never been offered before may be the issue. That's rich! You're just going to ignore all the people in this thread who have kids stuggling in the course? My child has an A- in AP Precalculus. I can assure you her previous classes where not dumbed down but this class is hard. She's a straight A student. NEVER had an A- in anything, let alone math. And fun fact: her AP Precalc teacher was also her Alg 2 HN teacher. I guess, according to you, he dumbed it down last year but not this year. Lol!


My goodness! I hit a nerve


No you made a rude assumption.
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Not op here- if they were dumbed down. It isn’t our kids fault. Mine has been at the same secondary school
Since 7th. Her alg 2 teacher constantly complained they weren’t prepared. But my dd had 98 in 7,8,9. Who is at fault?
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Anonymous wrote:Not op here- if they were dumbed down. It isn’t our kids fault. Mine has been at the same secondary school
Since 7th. Her alg 2 teacher constantly complained they weren’t prepared. But my dd had 98 in 7,8,9. Who is at fault?


+1 Also not OP. And remember, these kids did algebra 1 via Zoom, which was absolutely awful.
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


I'm the PP who asked what class you think my child should take. It's odd you think 2 classes were dumbed down because my child did well in them and not that a class that is brand new and never been offered before may be the issue. That's rich! You're just going to ignore all the people in this thread who have kids stuggling in the course? My child has an A- in AP Precalculus. I can assure you her previous classes where not dumbed down but this class is hard. She's a straight A student. NEVER had an A- in anything, let alone math. And fun fact: her AP Precalc teacher was also her Alg 2 HN teacher. I guess, according to you, he dumbed it down last year but not this year. Lol!


My goodness! I hit a nerve


No you made a rude assumption.


You misinterpreted me. I did not comment on the AP PreCalc class. But these are my thoughts —if a student was in a rigorous Geometry and Alg2H course then they’re going to be aware that the next course is even more challenging. I assume all students taking the classes are straight A students in other subjects. They’re all smart. Yours, mine and everyone else’s. You don’t take these classes otherwise. You took offense when I didn’t mean any. My point was that the prior classes may not have properly prepared or challenged your child. Not all teachers are good, some are uneven. Good luck.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


I'm the PP who asked what class you think my child should take. It's odd you think 2 classes were dumbed down because my child did well in them and not that a class that is brand new and never been offered before may be the issue. That's rich! You're just going to ignore all the people in this thread who have kids stuggling in the course? My child has an A- in AP Precalculus. I can assure you her previous classes where not dumbed down but this class is hard. She's a straight A student. NEVER had an A- in anything, let alone math. And fun fact: her AP Precalc teacher was also her Alg 2 HN teacher. I guess, according to you, he dumbed it down last year but not this year. Lol!


My goodness! I hit a nerve


OP (and not who you are responding to). Only 1 of my kid's HS (honors) math classes was online. And, honestly, the teacher was a rockstar and did a great job. There were still gaps in what they were allowed to teach. Thus, we got a tutor to fill those (retired teacher). The next two years were in class and decidedly NOT dumbed down.

The class is hard. This is the first time my kid has ever struggled in a class. My kid is certainly not dumb. But the material is hard and I don't know it's being taught that well for whatever reason. My kid always has lingering questions after the "lecture." Hopefully the tutor and staying after (once the sports season ends) will help.

Thanks to who also rec'd Khan Academy. I forgot about that for resources other than for test prep.
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


I'm the PP who asked what class you think my child should take. It's odd you think 2 classes were dumbed down because my child did well in them and not that a class that is brand new and never been offered before may be the issue. That's rich! You're just going to ignore all the people in this thread who have kids stuggling in the course? My child has an A- in AP Precalculus. I can assure you her previous classes where not dumbed down but this class is hard. She's a straight A student. NEVER had an A- in anything, let alone math. And fun fact: her AP Precalc teacher was also her Alg 2 HN teacher. I guess, according to you, he dumbed it down last year but not this year. Lol!


My goodness! I hit a nerve


No you made a rude assumption.


You misinterpreted me. I did not comment on the AP PreCalc class. But these are my thoughts —if a student was in a rigorous Geometry and Alg2H course then they’re going to be aware that the next course is even more challenging. I assume all students taking the classes are straight A students in other subjects. They’re all smart. Yours, mine and everyone else’s. You don’t take these classes otherwise. You took offense when I didn’t mean any. My point was that the prior classes may not have properly prepared or challenged your child. Not all teachers are good, some are uneven. Good luck.


To be fair, your post was Rude af, too. And not all that helpful.
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.

The previous fcps pre-calculus was dumbed down too. But new AP pre-calculus cannot be as they have to follow college board syllabus. Even though it is only 4 units (only first 3 will be tested), each unit is much more indepth than what had been previously taught in fcps pre-calculus.

It is true that college board came up with a lightweight (4 units only) AP Pre-calculus as an intro level AP math, since Calc AB was too difficult to pursue for many. Now that it's available, some schools are making it as prereq for Calc AB/BC.

Yet, note that AP pre-calculus only teaches 4 out of 10 topics found in standard pre-calculus textbooks, leaving students to learn 6 topics on their own to get ready for Calc AB/BC.
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Follow-up: If you don't take the AP exam for this class, do you lose the gpa bump?

I know this is the case for other AP classes but since you can't get the college credit anyway, I wondered if it was different here. And I cannot find this information.
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Anonymous wrote:Follow-up: If you don't take the AP exam for this class, do you lose the gpa bump?

I know this is the case for other AP classes but since you can't get the college credit anyway, I wondered if it was different here. And I cannot find this information.


Not at my kids HS. He is NOT[i] taking the AP test and we were assured he'd still get the 1 pt bump. I do not know if it is a FCPS rule or individual HS rule.
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.

The previous fcps pre-calculus was dumbed down too. But new AP pre-calculus cannot be as they have to follow college board syllabus. Even though it is only 4 units (only first 3 will be tested), each unit is much more indepth than what had been previously taught in fcps pre-calculus.

It is true that college board came up with a lightweight (4 units only) AP Pre-calculus as an intro level AP math, since Calc AB was too difficult to pursue for many. Now that it's available, some schools are making it as prereq for Calc AB/BC.

Yet, note that AP pre-calculus only teaches 4 out of 10 topics found in standard pre-calculus textbooks, leaving students to learn 6 topics on their own to get ready for Calc AB/BC.


This is why even though my kid's math teacher said she should take AP Calc BC next year, we are going to take AB instead. We are concerned this AP Precalc class won't prepare her.
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Anonymous wrote:If you need a tutor to do well in an AP course, you should not be taking an AP course. Have your kid switch out of the AP version and into honors or regular. Make the jump to AP next year with another year of maturity and math foundation under their belt.


That's a dumb take. Kids have tutors in college and graduate. I have a B.S. and Masters in Engineering (EE and also minored in math). I used peer tutoring and had a private tutor sometimes in college. I'm now a successful engineer. And probably, much to your horror, I also used the writing center sometimes.

Kids needing a tutor is not an indication they don't belong in a class. Maybe they need more repitition than the class allows, maybe the teacher sucks, maybe the teacher has a heavy accent, maybe the teacher is great but they need to see the course from different angles/approaches.


They have a point. If a kid needs a tutor just to stay afloat in a college-level class as a high schooler, then it is reasonable to say the kid is not ready to handle college-level material. Of course there can be exceptions and other circumstances like terrible teachers, but it is indeed a red flag that they've been accelerated by their parents' will and not by their own motivation and capacity.

Peer tutoring in real college is fine because college students take age-appropriate classes where they've proven through a math placement exam and prerequisites that they are in the appropriate class.


If a kid took Algebra 1 HN in 7th, Geometry HN in 8th, Algebra 2 HN in 9th and scored over 97% in each class and the school does not have Honors Precalc but only regular and AP, what do you think they should take in 10th grade? Please enlighten me. And which course will help them in AP Calc AB?


NP. I hate to say it, but my guess is the Geometry H and Alg2H were dumbed down a bit. Those classes should be rigorous and they should not be easy As. At our school Alg2H is a weed out class. My kid felt grateful to get a B. Very few students get As. The kids on that track are used to grinding it out.


Wait, the classes were dumbed down, so they weren't rigorous, but your child was grateful to get a B. So your kid got a B in a dumbed down class?
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Anonymous wrote:Follow-up: If you don't take the AP exam for this class, do you lose the gpa bump?

I know this is the case for other AP classes but since you can't get the college credit anyway, I wondered if it was different here. And I cannot find this information.


At BTSN, at JMHS, the AP precalc teachers specifically said that they would be discouraging all of their students from taking the AP Precalc exam. I was already thinking my kid wouldn't be taking it b/c it would have no college-credit-value. But, that sealed the deal for sure. My kid is not taking the AP exam and they will still get the 1.0 gpa bump.
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Anonymous wrote:Follow-up: If you don't take the AP exam for this class, do you lose the gpa bump?

I know this is the case for other AP classes but since you can't get the college credit anyway, I wondered if it was different here. And I cannot find this information.


At BTSN, at JMHS, the AP precalc teachers specifically said that they would be discouraging all of their students from taking the AP Precalc exam. I was already thinking my kid wouldn't be taking it b/c it would have no college-credit-value. But, that sealed the deal for sure. My kid is not taking the AP exam and they will still get the 1.0 gpa bump.


Did they give a reason?
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