Disruptive student in class

[Anonymous]

We had one of those in my daughters class for a couple of years. It was a nightmare. He was violent and instead of taking him out of the classroom, they would disrupt all of the other kids in my daughters class, and stick them into another same grade class, so it was disruptive for them too.

The hitting and disruptions weren’t just the ones or twice in a year occurrence. It was weekly at the very least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there nowhere else to stick these kids?

They need to spend money. Also, all kids deserve a proper education- not being stuck somewhere.

violent kids still deserve a proper education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of people spewing things like mainstreaming and least restrictive environment is a bad thing. My DC has special needs and is mainstreamed. She has a language-based disability and learning disorders but is the kindest, gentlest kid and a quiet rule follower. She gets a bit of push in support but mostly extra time to do assignments and pull out for speech. She tells me that the assistant teacher who comes in to his classroom (as required in his IEP) usually ends up helping a bunch of kids and assists the main teacher as my DC works independently. She is sometimes the target of bullying but has never caused any disruption ever. She deserves to be in a LRE and mainstreamed and the clueless people spouting blanket statements of hatred of children with disabilities should look at their own kids - they can be mean and disruptive to my child's education. No child should be hitting and throwing things in a classroom - and violence should not be tolerated but give sped kids who are not disruptive a chance!

We are totally not talking about your kid. Non disruptive kids who only need more attention/different way of learning are perfectly welcome. Disruptive kids aren't even that big of an issue. It's the aggressive ones who fight, beat people up, throw things and get violent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there nowhere else to stick these kids?

They need to spend money. Also, all kids deserve a proper education- not being stuck somewhere.

violent kids still deserve a proper education?

Unequivocally yes.

[Anonymous]

This happens all.the.time

It’s public school - the end

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there nowhere else to stick these kids?

They need to spend money. Also, all kids deserve a proper education- not being stuck somewhere.

violent kids still deserve a proper education?

Unequivocally yes.

At what cost? Who is protecting the other kids and teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is there nowhere else to stick these kids?

Enroll them in online-only public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every class has THAT kid. That’s why we ended up at private. Mainstreaming has been a failure.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is there nowhere else to stick these kids?

They already have a shortage of teachers and you think they can come up with more of them to teach students like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of people spewing things like mainstreaming and least restrictive environment is a bad thing. My DC has special needs and is mainstreamed. She has a language-based disability and learning disorders but is the kindest, gentlest kid and a quiet rule follower. She gets a bit of push in support but mostly extra time to do assignments and pull out for speech. She tells me that the assistant teacher who comes in to his classroom (as required in his IEP) usually ends up helping a bunch of kids and assists the main teacher as my DC works independently. She is sometimes the target of bullying but has never caused any disruption ever. She deserves to be in a LRE and mainstreamed and the clueless people spouting blanket statements of hatred of children with disabilities should look at their own kids - they can be mean and disruptive to my child's education. No child should be hitting and throwing things in a classroom - and violence should not be tolerated but give sped kids who are not disruptive a chance!

We are totally not talking about your kid. Non disruptive kids who only need more attention/different way of learning are perfectly welcome. Disruptive kids aren't even that big of an issue. It's the aggressive ones who fight, beat people up, throw things and get violent.

Take a look at the demographics behind who those kids are and then get back to us about sticking them in a different school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of people spewing things like mainstreaming and least restrictive environment is a bad thing. My DC has special needs and is mainstreamed. She has a language-based disability and learning disorders but is the kindest, gentlest kid and a quiet rule follower. She gets a bit of push in support but mostly extra time to do assignments and pull out for speech. She tells me that the assistant teacher who comes in to his classroom (as required in his IEP) usually ends up helping a bunch of kids and assists the main teacher as my DC works independently. She is sometimes the target of bullying but has never caused any disruption ever. She deserves to be in a LRE and mainstreamed and the clueless people spouting blanket statements of hatred of children with disabilities should look at their own kids - they can be mean and disruptive to my child's education. No child should be hitting and throwing things in a classroom - and violence should not be tolerated but give sped kids who are not disruptive a chance!

We are totally not talking about your kid. Non disruptive kids who only need more attention/different way of learning are perfectly welcome. Disruptive kids aren't even that big of an issue. It's the aggressive ones who fight, beat people up, throw things and get violent.

So why the question of whether this child has special needs? Aggressive and disruptive does not equal special needs as a PP implied with that question. It is true that kids with sn are much more likely to be targets than aggressors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of people spewing things like mainstreaming and least restrictive environment is a bad thing. My DC has special needs and is mainstreamed. She has a language-based disability and learning disorders but is the kindest, gentlest kid and a quiet rule follower. She gets a bit of push in support but mostly extra time to do assignments and pull out for speech. She tells me that the assistant teacher who comes in to his classroom (as required in his IEP) usually ends up helping a bunch of kids and assists the main teacher as my DC works independently. She is sometimes the target of bullying but has never caused any disruption ever. She deserves to be in a LRE and mainstreamed and the clueless people spouting blanket statements of hatred of children with disabilities should look at their own kids - they can be mean and disruptive to my child's education. No child should be hitting and throwing things in a classroom - and violence should not be tolerated but give sped kids who are not disruptive a chance!

We are totally not talking about your kid. Non disruptive kids who only need more attention/different way of learning are perfectly welcome. Disruptive kids aren't even that big of an issue. It's the aggressive ones who fight, beat people up, throw things and get violent.

The most violent child in our DC's class does not have special needs and was a "popular" child who happened to be a bully and liked hitting others. His parents denied he had any special needs. Is he welcome because he does not have special needs?

[Anonymous]

We moved to private until high school so they could actually learn

[Anonymous]

Former special ed teacher here. Some of the disruptive kids are just having impulse control issues and will grow out of it. Some are undiagnosed or diagnosed ADHD who should be medicated, but either the parents don't know about the diagnosis or don't believe in medication. And, some are absolutely special ed but the parents disagree. Then you have to collect data. And more data. And even more data. And even then, sometimes there is nothing you can do. Sometimes, even if parents, teachers and admin agree, it can still take over a year to get a student moved to an appropriate, discreet classroom with more support.

In the meantime, become an active and involved parent at the school. File that bullying form every single time there is an incident (even if your child was a witness and not the victim), and if your child is the direct victim of ANY violence, file a police report. Unfortunately, these are the only things MCPS will react to these days. And, I would not allow my child to participate in restorative justice under any circumstances. They'd just be revictomized.

There are many reasons I am a former special ed teacher, but the state of MCPS is a huge part of it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Former special ed teacher here. Some of the disruptive kids are just having impulse control issues and will grow out of it. Some are undiagnosed or diagnosed ADHD who should be medicated, but either the parents don't know about the diagnosis or don't believe in medication. And, some are absolutely special ed but the parents disagree. Then you have to collect data. And more data. And even more data. And even then, sometimes there is nothing you can do. Sometimes, even if parents, teachers and admin agree, it can still take over a year to get a student moved to an appropriate, discreet classroom with more support.

In the meantime, become an active and involved parent at the school. File that bullying form every single time there is an incident (even if your child was a witness and not the victim), and if your child is the direct victim of ANY violence, file a police report. Unfortunately, these are the only things MCPS will react to these days. And, I would not allow my child to participate in restorative justice under any circumstances. They'd just be revictomized.

There are many reasons I am a former special ed teacher, but the state of MCPS is a huge part of it

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