| I'm Christian and was raised Catholic. I take Communion because I had my First Communion and also because I believe that when Communion is blessed by a priest it is the actual Blood and Body of Christ. If I didn't believe that I wouldn't take it, and it does offend me when agnostic family members take Communion. |
OP is not being judgy. A relative holds this view and she's getting opinions from other Catholics on whether that is a commonly held perspective. |
| Well she’s asking if she should judge more and she has a judgy relative so I’d say they are both overly concerned about judging others. |
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What a strange thing to judge people for!
What do you think you even know about the lives of strangers! The church and bible says to take communion, to marry in church and babtize So should we judge people who are not religious enough to have a religious wedding ceremony or not religious enough to raise their kids in a religioun but still want infant babtism? |
DP. That’s not at all what the OP said. OP asked a question hoping to understand a different perspective. Nowhere did she ask if she should judge more. I don’t judge. I have enough that’s judge-worthy in my own life, so it seems rather hypocritical to turn a lens on others. |
| Communion is such a clever piece of social engineering. It keeps you in (take it every week or you’re a sinner, see this string); provides exclusivity (your can’t take it if you aren’t in the club, which isn’t easy unless you were born into it); is magical (literal physical miracles happening daily near you!); and gives full employment to a class of men who would otherwise fall astray of the moral commandments of the institution. It always cracks me up when Catholic Churches say “all are welcome here.” Sure, you’re welcome until you are immediately judged for not going up to get it. But still, it’s the glue that keeps the institution together. The other mainline denominations seem to have nothing substantive (pun intended) left in them, and thus are dying out. |
“To be properly disposed to receive Communion, participants should not be conscious of grave sin and normally should have fasted for one hour. A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to receive the Body and Blood of the Lord without prior sacramental confession except for a grave reason where there is no opportunity for confession. In this case, the person is to be mindful of the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition, including the intention of confessing as soon as possible (canon 916). A frequent reception of the Sacrament of Penance is encouraged for all.” The one hour communion fast is waived for persons who medically need to eat or to drink something other than water during that hour. Medicine does not break the fast. The criteria for what constitutes a grave (mortal) sin are (1) grave matter; (2) full knowledge; and (3) full, free and final consent of the will. These are stated objectively and the more cautious approach is to apply them to oneself objectively, but there is a subjective role for individual conscience and particular circumstances, including psychological matters, force of habit and the like. Pope Francis has explored some of these things in Amoris Laetitia, where he posits among other things that a person in an objectively irregular relationship might still be properly disposed to receive the Eucharist if leaving the relationship would do more harm than good to others, particularly children. Since conscience must be well informed, he cautions people in such situations to seek good spiritual counsel. |
Exactly. |
| Well your relative would have hated my college priest who allowed me to take communion at mass as a Lutheran. It wasn’t about man’s rules for him. It was about my relationship with Christ that he was happy to help foster. So Jesus of him. |
But it’s not about you. |
There are narrow circumstances in which non-Catholics are permitted to receive communion in a Catholic Church, if they share the Catholic belief in the Real Presence (via transubstantiation) and cannot reasonably access their own ministers. To the extent those circumstances do not apply, a priest distributing the Eucharist to a non-Catholic would be following his own (i.e., “man’s”) rules, not the regulations of the divinely instituted Church. |
Does your relative take communion? If no, I understand the feeling of unfairness. They should dop Catholicism and lead a life that works for them If yes, they should shut their mouth because they are a sinning hypocrite too. |
I agree with this statement. The first person who popped in to my head who would be judgmental about this topic is judgmental about everything. |
I didn’t and I don’t. Still think that he was following the spirit rather than the letter of the “law”. The spirit is what’s important. Do you think Jesus would deny anyone willing communion? |
I think he was pretty clear, both directly and through the Apostles, about what “communion” entails and the consequences of receiving the Eucharist when not properly disposed. The essence of ecclesial communion is shared belief, which is entirely absent when a person who does not believe what the Church teaches about the Eucharist receives it nonetheless. |