Best jobs for pre law student

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

[Anonymous]

I worked as a camp counselor in undergrad before I went to law school. He should do whatever he wants to do.

[Anonymous]

Two people in my ls class were exotic dancers before law school. And no, I am not trolling, it is absolutely true. And I know for sure because one of them was me and one was a good friend and she had video and we watched it and laughed about it. Obvs, we didn't mention it in our personal statements (well, I didn't, and I assume she didn't). Both of us went on to difficult-to-land jobs.

My ls wasn't T14, but it was first tier. My LSAT was 98th percentile.

Moral of the story, I wouldn't sweat the question of work experience -- he should just do what interests him.

[Anonymous]

“pre-law” isn’t a thing— there are no required courses you need to take to apply to law school and actually no one should go to law school straight from undergrad so take whatever he wants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Working at a law firm is the best possible route. I also recommend Hill jobs to people looking at law school - it’s resume gold and good experience to see another side of law.

Was going to write this. In NYC, he could work for a Member"s District Office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, look, applying to law school isn’t like applying to college. He doesn’t need “extracurricular activities” and no law school gives a sh!t about what kind of part time job he has. What matters is that his part time job not impact his studies. Because it’s all about LSAT and GPA.

+1 you don't need to be in any law-related clubs either.

Just make the most of undergrad and then apply.

It's very different from being pre-med.

[Anonymous]

I went to law school with a professional NFL player OP. As others said, jobs and undergrad degree do not matter Focus on perfect grades and LSAT score.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t y’all let your kids figure this stuff out?

Among the dumbest comments that I have ever read.

Why? I thought it was a great comment - the best there is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

Those are one~off speciality scholarships for rare individuals. PP is correct that top law schools don’t give merit because they don’t have to. My kid is applying to Harvard and I fully expect to have to pay $108k a year for three years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

You are wrong. Google, for example, Yale Harvard Law merit aid. Both say quite clearly there is none

[Anonymous]

No job - get a perfect LSAT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

Those are one~off speciality scholarships for rare individuals. PP is correct that top law schools don’t give merit because they don’t have to. My kid is applying to Harvard and I fully expect to have to pay $108k a year for three years.

UChicago literally gives full ride scholarships plus $20k annual stipends to 10% of its students- search Rubenstein Scholars

As said above, every school other than Harvard and Yale offer merit scholarships

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

When was this? What magic hook did your kid have? Or were they 30? Because mine with a 3.9 and a 175 was waitlisted or rejected from all of these. .1 and 5 points seems awfully small for such a big difference in the outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

Those are one~off speciality scholarships for rare individuals. PP is correct that top law schools don’t give merit because they don’t have to. My kid is applying to Harvard and I fully expect to have to pay $108k a year for three years.

UChicago literally gives full ride scholarships plus $20k annual stipends to 10% of its students- search Rubenstein Scholars

As said above, every school other than Harvard and Yale offer merit scholarships

Those are designed to attract students to Hyde park who would otherwise go to Harvard, Yale or Stanford

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are real-life examples from the past 3 years, as LSAT scores have soared with online test administration and undergrad GPAs have soared during remote learning

One of my kids had perfect GPA and LSAT and strong academic achievements, but had literally never held a job - got in everywhere except Yale, received multiple Top 6 full-ride offers

The other had near-perfect GPA, a high 160s LSAT, and 3 years work experience in a US Attorney's Office, including as senior paralegal on a very high-profile trial, with a glowing letter of recommendation from the attorney on that case - shut out of the Top 14

If that real-world legal experience didn't make up for an LSAT <170 I can't imagine what undergrad part-time job would. It's all GPA and LSAT

Which top 6 law schools give merit full-rides? I didn't know full-rides were a thing for very highly ranked schools.

It’s not -signed Harvard law grad

You’re factually wrong - parent of kid who declined Harvard Law for one of the below

UChicago: Rubenstein Scholarship (full ride + $20k annual stipend)
Columbia: Hamilton Fellowship (full ride)
NYU: AnBryce Scholarship (full ride) and Root-Tilden-Kern (full ride for people with plans to public interest careers)
Stanford: Knight-Hennessy Fellowship (full ride)

Why would you come here and make errors of fact based on nothing but your own outdated assumptions?

Harvard Law does not give merit
Yale law does not give merit
The Stanford program you named is not issued by the law school but applies to all 39 graduate programs at Stanford. It is exceptionally competitive. It is usually rob by international students in one if the other grad programs, not law
Columbia is not a T6
The NYU ones are tagged for special interest

So PP’s claim that someone got merit from the top 6 law schools us demonstrably false