TJ prep classes

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Anonymous wrote:what about sunshine who bragged about 80+ TJ enrollers for class 2027?

I'm sure many TJ prep classes are doing much better with the essay admissions system than with the old exam-based system. It's much more preppable now.

It is true imho. The current system allows more room, hence more profits, for prep schools in affecting the final admission result.

[Anonymous]

It is stupid to remove the STEM test and teachers' recommendtions from the admission, which exclude much more kids who are really talented in STEM from TJ. From our observation, kids who have so-called leadership and writing skills but kinda weak in STEM are easier to get admitted. This is bad for both the school and those kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie has an amazing track record at TJ.

Isn't that the one that had a stolen copy of some test that is no longer used?

Is TJ even any good anymore, if any tiger parent can buy their kid in? Or do the "prep" systems not actually work?

Their numbers are still amazing. 1/3 of the class of 2024 came from them.

They are still getting great results with just the essays.

That’s not relevant. 2024 was the last class under the old system. 2025 and forward are the new system.

And they are still getting good results for class of 2025 and 2026.

source? unless you work at TJ

Someone posted the results for Curie last year. Not as high as before, but still very good numbers, high enough that I theorized Curie did better than before once you account for the automatic spots per school.

40% of all applicants attend Curie. Is it any surprise that about a third of all students who get in to TJ are from Curie?

Is Curie curriculum difficult for an average student? What's the best grade to enroll in it?

Depends on what you mean by average. People enroll around 5th-8th grade I think. There are also different things to sign up for. One adds extra help for TJ/AOS/AET.

Average meaning, can write three paragraph essays. The one that helps with TJ, how much work is it during the week? We hear students quitting just a few weeks into the program because the homework and tests are difficult to keep up (?). Trying to figure out if the student needs to be at a certain level, to benefit from these prep courses. Also, given that TJ admissions require primarily writing an essay, does the prep involve anything more than improving essay writing skills?

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8 If you look at the site, the 8th grade program covers Geometry and grammar/vocabulary/reading comprehension. The accelerated math pace (Geometry, Algebra 2, and trigonometry in 8th grade) is likely the cause of much of the quitting

When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

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Anonymous wrote:Curie has an amazing track record at TJ.

Isn't that the one that had a stolen copy of some test that is no longer used?

Is TJ even any good anymore, if any tiger parent can buy their kid in? Or do the "prep" systems not actually work?

Their numbers are still amazing. 1/3 of the class of 2024 came from them.

They are still getting great results with just the essays.

That’s not relevant. 2024 was the last class under the old system. 2025 and forward are the new system.

And they are still getting good results for class of 2025 and 2026.

source? unless you work at TJ

Someone posted the results for Curie last year. Not as high as before, but still very good numbers, high enough that I theorized Curie did better than before once you account for the automatic spots per school.

40% of all applicants attend Curie. Is it any surprise that about a third of all students who get in to TJ are from Curie?

Is Curie curriculum difficult for an average student? What's the best grade to enroll in it?

Depends on what you mean by average. People enroll around 5th-8th grade I think. There are also different things to sign up for. One adds extra help for TJ/AOS/AET.

Average meaning, can write three paragraph essays. The one that helps with TJ, how much work is it during the week? We hear students quitting just a few weeks into the program because the homework and tests are difficult to keep up (?). Trying to figure out if the student needs to be at a certain level, to benefit from these prep courses. Also, given that TJ admissions require primarily writing an essay, does the prep involve anything more than improving essay writing skills?

I believe the classes are math with TJprep in addition. The math homework is what causes kids trouble.
I don't know what is involved for sure, but I think given the results it is not about essay writing skills, but particularly what to include in the essays to boost admissions chances. How to demonstrate 'portrait of a graduate'.

[Anonymous]

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When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

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When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

If I understand correctly, Curie requires the student to have the Algebra2/trigonometry knowledge either they teach it there or taught by school, to survive in their TJ prep addon course? If student with a lower level math knowledge enrolls in Curie just to prep for TJ entrance essay, they end up quitting?

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When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

When people here refer to TJ prep, what does it mean? Is it primarily, enrolling in advanced math like algebra2/trigonometry at public school or at an outside tutor like Curie? The way it is bad mouthed here I imagined prep meant like SAT prep, where students repeatedly practice with multiple choice questions many times over until they get good at test taking strategies but do not gain any new knowledge.

[Anonymous]

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When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

When people here refer to TJ prep, what does it mean? Is it primarily, enrolling in advanced math like algebra2/trigonometry at public school or at an outside tutor like Curie? The way it is bad mouthed here I imagined prep meant like SAT prep, where students repeatedly practice with multiple choice questions many times over until they get good at test taking strategies but do not gain any new knowledge.

The primary factor that students can control in the new admissions system is an essay, so TJ prep is now about writing essays

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curie has an amazing track record at TJ.

Isn't that the one that had a stolen copy of some test that is no longer used?

Is TJ even any good anymore, if any tiger parent can buy their kid in? Or do the "prep" systems not actually work?

Their numbers are still amazing. 1/3 of the class of 2024 came from them.

They are still getting great results with just the essays.

That’s not relevant. 2024 was the last class under the old system. 2025 and forward are the new system.

And they are still getting good results for class of 2025 and 2026.

source? unless you work at TJ

Someone posted the results for Curie last year. Not as high as before, but still very good numbers, high enough that I theorized Curie did better than before once you account for the automatic spots per school.

40% of all applicants attend Curie. Is it any surprise that about a third of all students who get in to TJ are from Curie?

Is Curie curriculum difficult for an average student? What's the best grade to enroll in it?

Depends on what you mean by average. People enroll around 5th-8th grade I think. There are also different things to sign up for. One adds extra help for TJ/AOS/AET.

Average meaning, can write three paragraph essays. The one that helps with TJ, how much work is it during the week? We hear students quitting just a few weeks into the program because the homework and tests are difficult to keep up (?). Trying to figure out if the student needs to be at a certain level, to benefit from these prep courses. Also, given that TJ admissions require primarily writing an essay, does the prep involve anything more than improving essay writing skills?

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8 If you look at the site, the 8th grade program covers Geometry and grammar/vocabulary/reading comprehension. The accelerated math pace (Geometry, Algebra 2, and trigonometry in 8th grade) is likely the cause of much of the quitting

When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Most of the accelerated math comes in the second semester of grade 8. The TJ essay writing and more basic math comes in the first semester. That way students who want TJ prep but not several years of math acceleration can attend for the first semester, those who want both can attend both semesters, and those who want the math acceleration but not TJ will take the first semester pathway without TJ prep and then the second semester.

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When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

When people here refer to TJ prep, what does it mean? Is it primarily, enrolling in advanced math like algebra2/trigonometry at public school or at an outside tutor like Curie? The way it is bad mouthed here I imagined prep meant like SAT prep, where students repeatedly practice with multiple choice questions many times over until they get good at test taking strategies but do not gain any new knowledge.

The primary factor that students can control in the new admissions system is an essay, so TJ prep is now about writing essays

So on this forum, TJ prepped kid is someone who has learnt alg2/trignometry and learnt to write essays, whereas an under-prepped kid is one who completes Algebra 1 and hasnt practiced writing essays? Why doesn't FCPS offer alg2/trig to 8th grade students, similar to Loudoun, and teach necessary essay writing in English class so that everyone who applies to TJ are equally prepped?

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When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

When people here refer to TJ prep, what does it mean? Is it primarily, enrolling in advanced math like algebra2/trigonometry at public school or at an outside tutor like Curie? The way it is bad mouthed here I imagined prep meant like SAT prep, where students repeatedly practice with multiple choice questions many times over until they get good at test taking strategies but do not gain any new knowledge.

The primary factor that students can control in the new admissions system is an essay, so TJ prep is now about writing essays

So on this forum, TJ prepped kid is someone who has learnt alg2/trignometry and learnt to write essays, whereas an under-prepped kid is one who completes Algebra 1 and hasnt practiced writing essays? Why doesn't FCPS offer alg2/trig to 8th grade students, similar to Loudoun, and teach necessary essay writing in English class so that everyone who applies to TJ are equally prepped?

This forum and TJ is more Fairfax, so they are talking about 8th grade geometry vs algebra 1. Curie is more in Loudoun though.
Kids in Fairfax can get algebra 2 with trigonometry. It is less common despite the acceleration in elementary school that Loudoun lacks, I think primarily because of the 6th graders being in elementary school in Fairfax, so it is harder to accommodate 6th grade algebra.

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Anonymous wrote:
When TJ admissions only require Algebra 1 Hon and essay writing skills, why do they teach three years ahead up to trignometry and allow students to quit? or is it their way of filtering out the slow learners from accelerated math pace? I assume student would've to had known algebra 1 by 7th grade end?. How many actually complete the accelerated? is this much accelerated math specific to curie or typical of any prep center?

Because there are kids taking that level of math in 8th grade. alg 2/trigonometry had about 100 students per year in Loudoun. Probably much less next year. While the parents are signing up for TJprep, it is technically not what Curie is selling. The TJ prep is an addon for the math tutoring.

If I understand correctly, Curie requires the student to have the Algebra2/trigonometry knowledge either they teach it there or taught by school, to survive in their TJ prep addon course? If student with a lower level math knowledge enrolls in Curie just to prep for TJ entrance essay, they end up quitting?

Looking at the guide, the 8th grade program requires kids to have finished algebra 1 in 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what about sunshine who bragged about 80+ TJ enrollers for class 2027?

I'm sure many TJ prep classes are doing much better with the essay admissions system than with the old exam-based system. It's much more preppable now.

It is true imho. The current system allows more room, hence more profits, for prep schools in affecting the final admission result.

I know it'd be so much simpler if they just let us buy the test like the good old days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what about sunshine who bragged about 80+ TJ enrollers for class 2027?

I'm sure many TJ prep classes are doing much better with the essay admissions system than with the old exam-based system. It's much more preppable now.

It is true imho. The current system allows more room, hence more profits, for prep schools in affecting the final admission result.

I know it'd be so much simpler if they just let us buy the test like the good old days.

You are one sad pathetic person. Feel sorry for your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what about sunshine who bragged about 80+ TJ enrollers for class 2027?

I'm sure many TJ prep classes are doing much better with the essay admissions system than with the old exam-based system. It's much more preppable now.

It is true imho. The current system allows more room, hence more profits, for prep schools in affecting the final admission result.

I know it'd be so much simpler if they just let us buy the test like the good old days.

You are one sad pathetic person. Feel sorry for your kids.

This person is a childless trooper. That’s what you need to feel bad about.