279 Early College graduates honored in 2023

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Seems like a win-win.

College enrollment is declining nationally. It's not specific to MC. A major reason for the drop is lower birth rates.

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Anonymous wrote:For students who continue to 4-yr university degreee programs, how do students choose between Early College (on campus at UMUC) vs AP/IB at high school?

Is it based on AP/IB availability at home school (so UMUC acts like a Magnet)?

Or social/age reasons?

Kids I know in the program say that the MC classes are easier than AP classes and you don’t need to take the anxiety producing AP exams.

I think that depends on the courses and degree. For students in STEM math is math and AP only goes to Calc

I’m confused. Are you saying for math/stem it’s better to go the ap/IB route or the early college route?

I think they're saying the latter goes further, covering diffyQs, linear algebra, and calc 3

Yes. With actual college credit that is transferable. My kid has Calc 1-3, Diff Eq, Physics 1-3, Chem 1-2, & a smattering of other engineering courses. You can’t do all that via AP credits.

There are people who are absolutely convinced that community college classes are inferior to AP/IB. In reality, it’s just like all education (HS, CC, 4yr) with some fantastic teachers, most okay, and a few poor ones. As far as rigor goes, the MC STEM classes all had actual midterm and final exams counting for a significant portion of the grade. And I think people forget that the MC classes transfer directly to UMD. Many of those early college graduates are going to UMD-CP or UMBC right into finishing a 4 year engineering degree in two more years. It’s a great pathway to be in a high paying job at 20 without much (if any) college debt.

It can be helpful if you are interested in UMD College Park or UMBC. If you are interested instead in applying to Ivies and top 20 schools, AP classes are a better way to go.

99.6% of students do not go to Ivy League schools so I wouldn’t make that a deciding factor.

If a student would need to take out loans this dual enrollment sounds like a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

Non profits still needs funds to support themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

Non profits still needs funds to support themselves.

Yes. MC gets those funds from Montgomery County, as appropriated annually by the Montgomery County Council. Just like MCPS.

See https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2022/20220526/20220526_3-12.pdf for example.

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I wish they had more liberal arts. We chose IB over MC for a non math kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

It is not about shutting down. They have declining numbers and the push by MCPS for MC courses is directly linked to boosting MC admissions.
MC professors probably make less than MCPS teachers although I’m not 100% sure of that. The adjuncts certainly make less

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

It is not about shutting down. They have declining numbers and the push by MCPS for MC courses is directly linked to boosting MC admissions.
MC professors probably make less than MCPS teachers although I’m not 100% sure of that. The adjuncts certainly make less

Of course the adjuncts make less. Adjuncts make less than everyone, everywhere. Similarly, college enrollment is down everywhere. What are the downsides, for anybody, if MCPS students have the possibility of enrolling in MC during high school? I can't think of any.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

It is not about shutting down. They have declining numbers and the push by MCPS for MC courses is directly linked to boosting MC admissions.
MC professors probably make less than MCPS teachers although I’m not 100% sure of that. The adjuncts certainly make less

Of course the adjuncts make less. Adjuncts make less than everyone, everywhere. Similarly, college enrollment is down everywhere. What are the downsides, for anybody, if MCPS students have the possibility of enrolling in MC during high school? I can't think of any.

Ask a college prof how they like teaching 16 year olds sometime.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

It is not about shutting down. They have declining numbers and the push by MCPS for MC courses is directly linked to boosting MC admissions.
MC professors probably make less than MCPS teachers although I’m not 100% sure of that. The adjuncts certainly make less

Of course the adjuncts make less. Adjuncts make less than everyone, everywhere. Similarly, college enrollment is down everywhere. What are the downsides, for anybody, if MCPS students have the possibility of enrolling in MC during high school? I can't think of any.

Ask a college prof how they like teaching 16 year olds sometime.

MC is a community college. Community colleges, by their nature, have students with a very wide range of backgrounds, interests, and abilities. If you're not ready for that, you shouldn't take a job with a community college.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

It is not about shutting down. They have declining numbers and the push by MCPS for MC courses is directly linked to boosting MC admissions.
MC professors probably make less than MCPS teachers although I’m not 100% sure of that. The adjuncts certainly make less

Of course the adjuncts make less. Adjuncts make less than everyone, everywhere. Similarly, college enrollment is down everywhere. What are the downsides, for anybody, if MCPS students have the possibility of enrolling in MC during high school? I can't think of any.

Ask a college prof how they like teaching 16 year olds sometime.

MC is a community college. Community colleges, by their nature, have students with a very wide range of backgrounds, interests, and abilities. If you're not ready for that, you shouldn't take a job with a community college.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

MC is not going to get shut down. Who even by, anyway? Good grief.

It is not about shutting down. They have declining numbers and the push by MCPS for MC courses is directly linked to boosting MC admissions.
MC professors probably make less than MCPS teachers although I’m not 100% sure of that. The adjuncts certainly make less

Of course the adjuncts make less. Adjuncts make less than everyone, everywhere. Similarly, college enrollment is down everywhere. What are the downsides, for anybody, if MCPS students have the possibility of enrolling in MC during high school? I can't think of any.

Ask a college prof how they like teaching 16 year olds sometime.

They prefer the dedicated dual enrollment students to campus party animals.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they had more liberal arts. We chose IB over MC for a non math kid.

The humanities classes at MC are not superior to any AP/IB course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtual middle college and middle college were designed to funnel more students into MC as community college enrollment has been declining.
The goal is to help MC stay afloat more than it is to benefit students

Hopefully you’re aware that MC is a nonprofit.

If MC provides classes that MCPS won't, or provides them cheaper, and money moves from MCPS budget to MC budget to make MC look better to the Legislature, it's a win-win that defends MC from being shut down for cost-efficiency reasons.

You nailed it. MCPS students and resources are continuously being used to prop up Montgomery College's existence. I'm not a fan, not because I don't think MC shouldn't exist. But the community college should exist on its own merits, not by leaching and replacing with MCPS should be doing.