Anyone get into AAP on appeal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Other than NNAT, COGAT, GBRS and Report cards, which are the other factors considered?
Are iReady scores from grade 1 and K important? DSA, Wida access?
What kind of work by the student is to be submitted?

I received that packet from our AART. Other than the standard stuff here's what it listed:

- 2nd grade fall iReady percentiles.
- Young Scholar (Y/N)
- Language minority student (Y/N)
- ESOL (WIDA LEP Level/ESOL Status)
- Federal Ethnic Code
- Other tests - WISC IV, WISC V, Stanford Binet, CAS, DAS, Kaufman Battery, OLSAT
- If applying in 4th/5th/6th - SOL scores from each grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does the NNAT not count for much anymore or is that speculation? Our AART said that you need 130+ in both to be considered, but after talking to some parents their kids did not score that high in either and were admitted.

The last audit showed that the NNAT scores were not highly correlated with acceptance into LIV or not. They were essentially used to make sure kids were considered but were not tied to actual acceptance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than NNAT, COGAT, GBRS and Report cards, which are the other factors considered?
Are iReady scores from grade 1 and K important? DSA, Wida access?
What kind of work by the student is to be submitted?

I received that packet from our AART. Other than the standard stuff here's what it listed:

- 2nd grade fall iReady percentiles.
- Young Scholar (Y/N)
- Language minority student (Y/N)
- ESOL (WIDA LEP Level/ESOL Status)
- Federal Ethnic Code
- Other tests - WISC IV, WISC V, Stanford Binet, CAS, DAS, Kaufman Battery, OLSAT
- If applying in 4th/5th/6th - SOL scores from each grade

How many years until the coalition for TJ decides to sue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does the NNAT not count for much anymore or is that speculation? Our AART said that you need 130+ in both to be considered, but after talking to some parents their kids did not score that high in either and were admitted.

Depends on your school since it’s now all local norms. If high SES school/center school, those NNAT/COGAT in-pool numbers (which does not guarantee admission, just that a packet is created) are in the 140s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm hoping mine gets in the second time around.

She had
NNAT 133
CogAT 136
WISC 145 (GMU)

Didn't get in last year, wasn't even in pool, and appeal failed. This year still didn't get in, and... Waiting on my second appeal. But not holding my breath.

What pyramid are you in? Those scores are definitely on the cusp. I hope you get in!

There is not a school in fcps where a 145 wisc is considered “on the cusp”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm hoping mine gets in the second time around.

She had
NNAT 133
CogAT 136
WISC 145 (GMU)

Didn't get in last year, wasn't even in pool, and appeal failed. This year still didn't get in, and... Waiting on my second appeal. But not holding my breath.

What pyramid are you in? Those scores are definitely on the cusp. I hope you get in!

There is not a school in fcps where a 145 wisc is considered “on the cusp”.

Way to be a debbie downer. Anyway, the 136 alone in a certain pyramid would be on the cusp or in pool. I hope your child gets in!

[Anonymous]

I think it's wild that kids in the 99+ percentile on test scores would be excluded from AAP. Even in a high SES school, these kids should be given access to advanced "rigor" as they say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's wild that kids in the 99+ percentile on test scores would be excluded from AAP. Even in a high SES school, these kids should be given access to advanced "rigor" as they say.

The top 20% usually are within the top 10% nationally at high-SES schools. Nevertheless, the bar is low enough that any bright kid should get in and, if not, just get a private diagnosis and appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Was the WISC taken last year or this year?

Taken last year. And to pp Oakton pyramid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is not a school in fcps where a 145 wisc is considered “on the cusp”.

Way to be a debbie downer. Anyway, the 136 alone in a certain pyramid would be on the cusp or in pool. I hope your child gets in!

Pretty sure pp wasn't saying 145 is too low, but should clearly be in. Not being a Debbie Downer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's wild that kids in the 99+ percentile on test scores would be excluded from AAP. Even in a high SES school, these kids should be given access to advanced "rigor" as they say.

The top 20% usually are within the top 10% nationally at high-SES schools. Nevertheless, the bar is low enough that any bright kid should get in and, if not, just get a private diagnosis and appeal.

Ah - there you are. It wouldn’t be a decent thread without you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than NNAT, COGAT, GBRS and Report cards, which are the other factors considered?
Are iReady scores from grade 1 and K important? DSA, Wida access?
What kind of work by the student is to be submitted?

I received that packet from our AART. Other than the standard stuff here's what it listed:

- 2nd grade fall iReady percentiles.
- Young Scholar (Y/N)
- Language minority student (Y/N)
- ESOL (WIDA LEP Level/ESOL Status)
- Federal Ethnic Code
- Other tests - WISC IV, WISC V, Stanford Binet, CAS, DAS, Kaufman Battery, OLSAT
- If applying in 4th/5th/6th - SOL scores from each grade

This is very helpful, thanks a bunch!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's wild that kids in the 99+ percentile on test scores would be excluded from AAP. Even in a high SES school, these kids should be given access to advanced "rigor" as they say.

The top 20% usually are within the top 10% nationally at high-SES schools. Nevertheless, the bar is low enough that any bright kid should get in and, if not, just get a private diagnosis and appeal.

Ah - there you are. It wouldn’t be a decent thread without you.

Someone needs to keep people informed on how things really work.