Who should NOT go to sleepaway camp?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids whose ADHD is not under control. Kids who get in trouble at school for behabad vior.

+1.

Agree, but not specific to adhd. Kids with bad behavior, don’t/can’t follow directions with consistently, are annoying to others and don’t get social cues. These kids can be unsafe at camp and create an unpleasant environment for those around them.

You don’t have to invite “these kids” to your house if you don’t want. But you can’t exclude them from every space and expect that only your perfect Larla is entitled to fun childhood experiences. Lots of other kids and adults are less troubled/sensitive about these things. If my kid has a friend who has missed a social cue, he and I don’t get all spun up about it. All kids/people are annoying in different ways, even you and yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids whose ADHD is not under control. Kids who get in trouble at school for behabad vior.

+1.

Agree, but not specific to adhd. Kids with bad behavior, don’t/can’t follow directions with consistently, are annoying to others and don’t get social cues. These kids can be unsafe at camp and create an unpleasant environment for those around them.

You don’t have to invite “these kids” to your house if you don’t want. But you can’t exclude them from every space and expect that only your perfect Larla is entitled to fun childhood experiences. Lots of other kids and adults are less troubled/sensitive about these things. If my kid has a friend who has missed a social cue, he and I don’t get all spun up about it. All kids/people are annoying in different ways, even you and yours.

I’m just answering OP’s question. It’s one thing to be around an annoying kid for a couple hrs every now and then l, but no one should have to be stuck in a cabin with the kid that won’t be respectful of others for 7 weeks. Or follow rules. If you child has a tendency to ignore rules that is a major safety issue at a sleepaway camp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids whose ADHD is not under control. Kids who get in trouble at school for behabad vior.

+1.

Agree, but not specific to adhd. Kids with bad behavior, don’t/can’t follow directions with consistently, are annoying to others and don’t get social cues. These kids can be unsafe at camp and create an unpleasant environment for those around them.

You don’t have to invite “these kids” to your house if you don’t want. But you can’t exclude them from every space and expect that only your perfect Larla is entitled to fun childhood experiences. Lots of other kids and adults are less troubled/sensitive about these things. If my kid has a friend who has missed a social cue, he and I don’t get all spun up about it. All kids/people are annoying in different ways, even you and yours.

I’m just answering OP’s question. It’s one thing to be around an annoying kid for a couple hrs every now and then l, but no one should have to be stuck in a cabin with the kid that won’t be respectful of others for 7 weeks. Or follow rules. If you child has a tendency to ignore rules that is a major safety issue at a sleepaway camp.

I think you are conflating two things. One is a kid who might not be your rule-following kid’s cup of tea. That doesn’t inherently create a safety issue of any kind. Maybe the kid sneaks his flashlight on under his covers after lights out. So he’ll be tired the next day and your more rigid kid will have panties in a twist for no reason because it does not actually affect him. Or maybe everyone is supposed to have one cup of lemonade and other kid sneaks a second cup after everyone has had their one. Again, this might irritate your kid, but it doesn’t actually directly impact him. Yes, what the kid is doing is wrong, but no it does not create a safety issue. Would you say a child who snores should not be allowed to come? I’d argue that there’s just as much a medical explanation for that as there is underdeveloped impulse control issues. And that snoring, while of bourse not the child’s fault, actually totally impacts bunkmates and their potential ability to get sleep. But you know what? Being together and realizing that everyone is different and learning to be flexible and understanding are huge lessons kids can take away from this type of experience, and at a good camp there are counselors and adults trained to handle all of these types of situations. Sometimes enough negative peer feedback can help kids adjust what they are doing to the extent they are able.

[Anonymous]

Our DC went last year for two weeks. Wasn’t miserable and enjoyed parts of it, but didn’t want to do it again so we’re fine with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids whose ADHD is not under control. Kids who get in trouble at school for behabad vior.

+1.

Agree, but not specific to adhd. Kids with bad behavior, don’t/can’t follow directions with consistently, are annoying to others and don’t get social cues. These kids can be unsafe at camp and create an unpleasant environment for those around them.

You don’t have to invite “these kids” to your house if you don’t want. But you can’t exclude them from every space and expect that only your perfect Larla is entitled to fun childhood experiences. Lots of other kids and adults are less troubled/sensitive about these things. If my kid has a friend who has missed a social cue, he and I don’t get all spun up about it. All kids/people are annoying in different ways, even you and yours.

I’m just answering OP’s question. It’s one thing to be around an annoying kid for a couple hrs every now and then l, but no one should have to be stuck in a cabin with the kid that won’t be respectful of others for 7 weeks. Or follow rules. If you child has a tendency to ignore rules that is a major safety issue at a sleepaway camp.

I think you are conflating two things. One is a kid who might not be your rule-following kid’s cup of tea. That doesn’t inherently create a safety issue of any kind. Maybe the kid sneaks his flashlight on under his covers after lights out. So he’ll be tired the next day and your more rigid kid will have panties in a twist for no reason because it does not actually affect him. Or maybe everyone is supposed to have one cup of lemonade and other kid sneaks a second cup after everyone has had their one. Again, this might irritate your kid, but it doesn’t actually directly impact him. Yes, what the kid is doing is wrong, but no it does not create a safety issue. Would you say a child who snores should not be allowed to come? I’d argue that there’s just as much a medical explanation for that as there is underdeveloped impulse control issues. And that snoring, while of bourse not the child’s fault, actually totally impacts bunkmates and their potential ability to get sleep. But you know what? Being together and realizing that everyone is different and learning to be flexible and understanding are huge lessons kids can take away from this type of experience, and at a good camp there are counselors and adults trained to handle all of these types of situations. Sometimes enough negative peer feedback can help kids adjust what they are doing to the extent they are able.

Kids that break small rules are also the same ones that break the larger rules that they may not understand are in place to keep them and others safe. Camp isn’t the place for your feral kid that can’t follow simple directions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids whose ADHD is not under control. Kids who get in trouble at school for behabad vior.

+1.

Agree, but not specific to adhd. Kids with bad behavior, don’t/can’t follow directions with consistently, are annoying to others and don’t get social cues. These kids can be unsafe at camp and create an unpleasant environment for those around them.

You don’t have to invite “these kids” to your house if you don’t want. But you can’t exclude them from every space and expect that only your perfect Larla is entitled to fun childhood experiences. Lots of other kids and adults are less troubled/sensitive about these things. If my kid has a friend who has missed a social cue, he and I don’t get all spun up about it. All kids/people are annoying in different ways, even you and yours.

I’m just answering OP’s question. It’s one thing to be around an annoying kid for a couple hrs every now and then l, but no one should have to be stuck in a cabin with the kid that won’t be respectful of others for 7 weeks. Or follow rules. If you child has a tendency to ignore rules that is a major safety issue at a sleepaway camp.

I think you are conflating two things. One is a kid who might not be your rule-following kid’s cup of tea. That doesn’t inherently create a safety issue of any kind. Maybe the kid sneaks his flashlight on under his covers after lights out. So he’ll be tired the next day and your more rigid kid will have panties in a twist for no reason because it does not actually affect him. Or maybe everyone is supposed to have one cup of lemonade and other kid sneaks a second cup after everyone has had their one. Again, this might irritate your kid, but it doesn’t actually directly impact him. Yes, what the kid is doing is wrong, but no it does not create a safety issue. Would you say a child who snores should not be allowed to come? I’d argue that there’s just as much a medical explanation for that as there is underdeveloped impulse control issues. And that snoring, while of bourse not the child’s fault, actually totally impacts bunkmates and their potential ability to get sleep. But you know what? Being together and realizing that everyone is different and learning to be flexible and understanding are huge lessons kids can take away from this type of experience, and at a good camp there are counselors and adults trained to handle all of these types of situations. Sometimes enough negative peer feedback can help kids adjust what they are doing to the extent they are able.

Kids that break small rules are also the same ones that break the larger rules that they may not understand are in place to keep them and others safe. Camp isn’t the place for your feral kid that can’t follow simple directions.

Not true just because you think you know. Also you should be ashamed of yourself. Bet you describe yourself as tolerant of others and their differences.