If you were deferred ED1, what was your strategy for ED2?

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

I see the logic here. You are applying to BC ED2 just for the heck of it because you don’t want to foreclose the possibility of getting into Villanova RD (unless you got lucky and got into BC).

I think you would need to have a realistic probability in mind as far as getting into Villanova having been deferred as well as the risk of not getting into Fordham or Providence RD and ending up somewhere even worse.

In my DC’s case we were worried DC would end up with some not so great options if it came down to RD (because we went 0 for 2 swinging for the fences in ED) so we aimed a little lower ED2 and it worked, no regrets.

You understand me That's what I'm worried about -- getting to RD with some not-so-great options. I guess I need to make my kid be not so in love with their ED1 pick.

Do schools typically provide the percentage of students who are deferred ED and then accepted RD? I wonder if those rates are approximately the same as the RD acceptance rate, or better (since they know the child is likely to accept their offer, since they initially applied ED1.)

I’m not sure but it seems that if your kid didn’t make the cut ED1, why would the school change its mind? It’s kind of like getting off the waitlist. Possible but do you really want to count on it? I think after the ED1 school defers or rejects your kid, it becomes pretty easy to fall out of love with that school. It’s also important to be really honest with yourself how strong the applicant is. If you’ve got some identifiable weaknesses, you probably want to play it a bit safer

Many schools this year decreased ED acceptances of full pay kids that don't fulfill an institutional priority. In this person's scenario, I think Villanova would reject the student if they had no interest in considering them later in RD. This shift in ED policy shift was quite pronounced in 2023 admissions cycle. My kid didn't do any better in RD after EA/ED deferrals - but I know others that did.

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

I see the logic here. You are applying to BC ED2 just for the heck of it because you don’t want to foreclose the possibility of getting into Villanova RD (unless you got lucky and got into BC).

I think you would need to have a realistic probability in mind as far as getting into Villanova having been deferred as well as the risk of not getting into Fordham or Providence RD and ending up somewhere even worse.

In my DC’s case we were worried DC would end up with some not so great options if it came down to RD (because we went 0 for 2 swinging for the fences in ED) so we aimed a little lower ED2 and it worked, no regrets.

You understand me That's what I'm worried about -- getting to RD with some not-so-great options. I guess I need to make my kid be not so in love with their ED1 pick.

Do schools typically provide the percentage of students who are deferred ED and then accepted RD? I wonder if those rates are approximately the same as the RD acceptance rate, or better (since they know the child is likely to accept their offer, since they initially applied ED1.)

I’m not sure but it seems that if your kid didn’t make the cut ED1, why would the school change its mind? It’s kind of like getting off the waitlist. Possible but do you really want to count on it? I think after the ED1 school defers or rejects your kid, it becomes pretty easy to fall out of love with that school. It’s also important to be really honest with yourself how strong the applicant is. If you’ve got some identifiable weaknesses, you probably want to play it a bit safer

Many schools this year decreased ED acceptances of full pay kids that don't fulfill an institutional priority. In this person's scenario, I think Villanova would reject the student if they had no interest in considering them later in RD. This shift in ED policy shift was quite pronounced in 2023 admissions cycle. My kid didn't do any better in RD after EA/ED deferrals - but I know others that did.

Do you think that this year colleges stopped doing "courtesy deferrals" (if that was ever really a thing) and only deferred students they were genuinely considering for admission?

Talking about unhooked (i.e., not legacy) students. I know legacy students are often courtesy-deferred.

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

You outlined an example really well that I think is very typical. Really helpful to lay it out.

I would caution that Villanova has so many applicants now that even tho they are not at the same level of GT and BC - their low acceptance rate makes them now a reach for all. Smart to ED1 there. Also smart to understand chances of deferral in that round are very high - we saw a ton of that the past two years. For very high stats kids, too.

You didn’t mention EA but assuming you would also consider that. Both Villanova and Providence offer. If your DC likes Villanova have them research Providence - I hear great things from families with students at both. Schedule an interview at Providence to demonstrate interest and increase chances of merit aid bc many Villanova applicants apply to PC.

I’m no help with advice about ED2 strategy bc your scenario is spot on and things are such a crapshoot. If it helps at all my kid was deferred ED1 to a lottery school and then accepted RD. Did not want to ED 2 anywhere else as held out hope. High stats kid fit within schools’ stats but still a lottery. We had emotionally moved on with some other EA acceptances until the good news. My kid took the chance but in the mean time we helped them begin to be excited by and grateful to the schools that accepted them.

It would def be interesting to see % of students accepted RD who had been deferred by that school in ED 1 or 2. I have no idea but my suspicion based on nothing is I think the chances are worse than RD. All I have heard is that ED 2 acceptance rates are generally no better than RD.

Good luck to you both!

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Anonymous wrote:From my observation, with no hard data to back this up, the success rate in ED2 is low. I don’t know if that’s because it isn’t offered many places so everyone ED2s the same schools, if kids shoot too high, or what.

What is interesting about ED2 is that the schools have the RD apps at the same time. So they are making the decision with a lot of information about the RD pool. Clearly ED2 applicants have an edge on the RD applicants since the yield is 100 percent. A marginal RD applicant prob squeaks in ED2

I don’t think so. ED2 is very competitive at most schools, with their pick of top students.

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

You outlined an example really well that I think is very typical. Really helpful to lay it out.

I would caution that Villanova has so many applicants now that even tho they are not at the same level of GT and BC - their low acceptance rate makes them now a reach for all. Smart to ED1 there. Also smart to understand chances of deferral in that round are very high - we saw a ton of that the past two years. For very high stats kids, too.

You didn’t mention EA but assuming you would also consider that. Both Villanova and Providence offer. If your DC likes Villanova have them research Providence - I hear great things from families with students at both. Schedule an interview at Providence to demonstrate interest and increase chances of merit aid bc many Villanova applicants apply to PC.

I’m no help with advice about ED2 strategy bc your scenario is spot on and things are such a crapshoot. If it helps at all my kid was deferred ED1 to a lottery school and then accepted RD. Did not want to ED 2 anywhere else as held out hope. High stats kid fit within schools’ stats but still a lottery. We had emotionally moved on with some other EA acceptances until the good news. My kid took the chance but in the mean time we helped them begin to be excited by and grateful to the schools that accepted them.

It would def be interesting to see % of students accepted RD who had been deferred by that school in ED 1 or 2. I have no idea but my suspicion based on nothing is I think the chances are worse than RD. All I have heard is that ED 2 acceptance rates are generally no better than RD.

Good luck to you both!

PP here - I meant to say that EA acceptance rates generally no better than RD. ED 1 & 2 both give an advantage

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Anonymous wrote:From my observation, with no hard data to back this up, the success rate in ED2 is low. I don’t know if that’s because it isn’t offered many places so everyone ED2s the same schools, if kids shoot too high, or what.

What is interesting about ED2 is that the schools have the RD apps at the same time. So they are making the decision with a lot of information about the RD pool. Clearly ED2 applicants have an edge on the RD applicants since the yield is 100 percent. A marginal RD applicant prob squeaks in ED2

I don’t think so. ED2 is very competitive at most schools, with their pick of top students.

But by definition, marginal means they are on the margin. If there are 10 equally marginal kids, and 5 are going to get in, the advantage goes to the one who is 99 percent going to enroll versus the one who has a 25 percent chance of enrolling

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Anonymous wrote:1. ED2 at somewhere less competitive.
2. Not ED2 at all, in the hope that your ED1 (your top pick) accepts you RD.
3. ED2 at somewhere more competitive -- it doesn't mean you're settling for a lesser school than your ED1 pick, and who knows, maybe you'll get in.

Ds did not apply ED2. He thought seriously about it. There were three schools he considered. One released EA two weeks after the ED2 deadline and dc got in! In the end, he got in RD at the other two options as well. He did not get into his ED1 choice, but got a guaranteed transfer offer, so if he's unhappy wherever he goes next year, he can always go there.

Do you mind sharing where he ED and got the transfer offer?

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

I see the logic here. You are applying to BC ED2 just for the heck of it because you don’t want to foreclose the possibility of getting into Villanova RD (unless you got lucky and got into BC).

I think you would need to have a realistic probability in mind as far as getting into Villanova having been deferred as well as the risk of not getting into Fordham or Providence RD and ending up somewhere even worse.

In my DC’s case we were worried DC would end up with some not so great options if it came down to RD (because we went 0 for 2 swinging for the fences in ED) so we aimed a little lower ED2 and it worked, no regrets.

If it were my kid in the hypothetical above I would advise then to ED2 to BC ONLY if they had a rolling admissions offer under their belt already, and it was highly likely they would get into Fordham and Providence, as in very likely based on info you have gathered and they have shown a lot of interest at both places. If they had no rolling admit already under their belt I would advise them to really look hard at Fordham /etc and see if there is one they feel comfortable going to for sure before ED2. Maybe visiting again if possible before sending in ED2. It is binding, so I would want them to be absolutely sure rather than just be able to cross it off the list that they got in somewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

I see the logic here. You are applying to BC ED2 just for the heck of it because you don’t want to foreclose the possibility of getting into Villanova RD (unless you got lucky and got into BC).

I think you would need to have a realistic probability in mind as far as getting into Villanova having been deferred as well as the risk of not getting into Fordham or Providence RD and ending up somewhere even worse.

In my DC’s case we were worried DC would end up with some not so great options if it came down to RD (because we went 0 for 2 swinging for the fences in ED) so we aimed a little lower ED2 and it worked, no regrets.

You understand me That's what I'm worried about -- getting to RD with some not-so-great options. I guess I need to make my kid be not so in love with their ED1 pick.

Do schools typically provide the percentage of students who are deferred ED and then accepted RD? I wonder if those rates are approximately the same as the RD acceptance rate, or better (since they know the child is likely to accept their offer, since they initially applied ED1.)

I’m not sure but it seems that if your kid didn’t make the cut ED1, why would the school change its mind? It’s kind of like getting off the waitlist. Possible but do you really want to count on it? I think after the ED1 school defers or rejects your kid, it becomes pretty easy to fall out of love with that school. It’s also important to be really honest with yourself how strong the applicant is. If you’ve got some identifiable weaknesses, you probably want to play it a bit safer

Many schools this year decreased ED acceptances of full pay kids that don't fulfill an institutional priority. In this person's scenario, I think Villanova would reject the student if they had no interest in considering them later in RD. This shift in ED policy shift was quite pronounced in 2023 admissions cycle. My kid didn't do any better in RD after EA/ED deferrals - but I know others that did.

Do you think that this year colleges stopped doing "courtesy deferrals" (if that was ever really a thing) and only deferred students they were genuinely considering for admission?

Talking about unhooked (i.e., not legacy) students. I know legacy students are often courtesy-deferred.

I can't compare to prior years but most of the kids we know were outright rejected in ED. For mine - the ED deferral turned into a rejection at RD (that school won't WL an ED defer in RD) and the EA defer turned into a WL. They also had 2 EA acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

I see the logic here. You are applying to BC ED2 just for the heck of it because you don’t want to foreclose the possibility of getting into Villanova RD (unless you got lucky and got into BC).

I think you would need to have a realistic probability in mind as far as getting into Villanova having been deferred as well as the risk of not getting into Fordham or Providence RD and ending up somewhere even worse.

In my DC’s case we were worried DC would end up with some not so great options if it came down to RD (because we went 0 for 2 swinging for the fences in ED) so we aimed a little lower ED2 and it worked, no regrets.

You understand me That's what I'm worried about -- getting to RD with some not-so-great options. I guess I need to make my kid be not so in love with their ED1 pick.

Do schools typically provide the percentage of students who are deferred ED and then accepted RD? I wonder if those rates are approximately the same as the RD acceptance rate, or better (since they know the child is likely to accept their offer, since they initially applied ED1.)

I’m not sure but it seems that if your kid didn’t make the cut ED1, why would the school change its mind? It’s kind of like getting off the waitlist. Possible but do you really want to count on it? I think after the ED1 school defers or rejects your kid, it becomes pretty easy to fall out of love with that school. It’s also important to be really honest with yourself how strong the applicant is. If you’ve got some identifiable weaknesses, you probably want to play it a bit safer

Many schools this year decreased ED acceptances of full pay kids that don't fulfill an institutional priority. In this person's scenario, I think Villanova would reject the student if they had no interest in considering them later in RD. This shift in ED policy shift was quite pronounced in 2023 admissions cycle. My kid didn't do any better in RD after EA/ED deferrals - but I know others that did.

Do you think that this year colleges stopped doing "courtesy deferrals" (if that was ever really a thing) and only deferred students they were genuinely considering for admission?

Talking about unhooked (i.e., not legacy) students. I know legacy students are often courtesy-deferred.

I can't compare to prior years but most of the kids we know were outright rejected in ED. For mine - the ED deferral turned into a rejection at RD (that school won't WL an ED defer in RD) and the EA defer turned into a WL. They also had 2 EA acceptances.

To clarify - unless they had a hook. Legacy helped with ED acceptances at places like Emory, but for Ivy legacy needed a second hook (like VIP or very top of class or institutional priority). We did see Ivy legacy ED defers that were later accepted in RD. And some other Ivy (non legacy) defers that were accepted in RD.

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Anonymous wrote:OK let's do this with some hypotheticals. Suppose your child wants to attend a mid-sized college on the east coast with a business school. (I'm using all Catholic examples here to make it more apples:apples.) Your choices are (in order of difficulty of admission) Georgetown, BC, Villanova, Fordham, Providence. Let's say GU and BC are reaches, Villanova is a match, and Fordham and Providence are likelies.

Student decides their top choices are Georgetown and BC. Decides against Georgetown due to its EA policy. Decides BC is too much of a reach, so decides on Villanova for ED1. They love Villanova and, while they *like* Fordham and Providence, far prefer Villanova.

If deferred by Villanova in ED1, would you tell them to apply to Fordham ED2? Or roll the dice on BC as an ED2 pick and keep their Villanova dream alive?

This is the scenario we may find ourselves in (although, none of these five schools.) I am trying to help manage my kid's expectations -- for example, by finding more "target" schools.

I see the logic here. You are applying to BC ED2 just for the heck of it because you don’t want to foreclose the possibility of getting into Villanova RD (unless you got lucky and got into BC).

I think you would need to have a realistic probability in mind as far as getting into Villanova having been deferred as well as the risk of not getting into Fordham or Providence RD and ending up somewhere even worse.

In my DC’s case we were worried DC would end up with some not so great options if it came down to RD (because we went 0 for 2 swinging for the fences in ED) so we aimed a little lower ED2 and it worked, no regrets.

If it were my kid in the hypothetical above I would advise then to ED2 to BC ONLY if they had a rolling admissions offer under their belt already, and it was highly likely they would get into Fordham and Providence, as in very likely based on info you have gathered and they have shown a lot of interest at both places. If they had no rolling admit already under their belt I would advise them to really look hard at Fordham /etc and see if there is one they feel comfortable going to for sure before ED2. Maybe visiting again if possible before sending in ED2. It is binding, so I would want them to be absolutely sure rather than just be able to cross it off the list that they got in somewhere.

Thank you -- I think this is great advice, especially the last part -- " I would want them to be absolutely sure rather than just be able to cross it off the list that they got in somewhere."

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College admissions have simply been different the last few years. I don't get the feeling that the professionals even have a great idea of what to expect. Unfortunately, that uncertainly perpetuates the cycle of kids applying to more and more schools, which means lower and lower admissions rates at the "top" schools.

Our DC's experience:
- rejected from ED1. Heartbroken.
- Looked at their list of schools to see which offered ED2. There were 3-4 schools that were tied in their mind as next best, but only one offered ED2. So that is where they applied ED2. Parents would have picked a less competitive school as a safer bet. But the kid would have always wondered if they could have gotten in to ED2 if they had tried.
- Parents have panic attack and talk to school college counselor about the "what if" situation of them not getting in anywhere. Not reassured at all. Start researching colleges that accept applications after April 1. Add three more schools to their RD list with acceptance rates of 25-35%. Don't tell student about the "what if" plans.
- Student completes all the rest of their applications.
- Student gets in ED2 and withdraws their applications.

The ED2 school was supposedly more competitive than the ED1 school; 6% vs 13%.

What we learned:
- ED1 is really only for athletes and other kids who check special boxes of institutional priorities. It is a great way for them to ensure the stats for the incoming class look great to USNWR and up their rankings.
- Even kids who thought they had athletic commits got screwed at ED1
- Even kids with stellar GPAs, amazing ECs, and checked diversity boxes were rejected ED1 (not our DC but their friends)
- It is a lottery.

Try to keep your kid from falling in love with a single school, but to find good things about all the schools on their lists and that they could be happy at any one of them. Happy kids make for better students, regardless of where they are.

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Anonymous wrote:College admissions have simply been different the last few years. I don't get the feeling that the professionals even have a great idea of what to expect. Unfortunately, that uncertainly perpetuates the cycle of kids applying to more and more schools, which means lower and lower admissions rates at the "top" schools.

Our DC's experience:
- rejected from ED1. Heartbroken.
- Looked at their list of schools to see which offered ED2. There were 3-4 schools that were tied in their mind as next best, but only one offered ED2. So that is where they applied ED2. Parents would have picked a less competitive school as a safer bet. But the kid would have always wondered if they could have gotten in to ED2 if they had tried.
- Parents have panic attack and talk to school college counselor about the "what if" situation of them not getting in anywhere. Not reassured at all. Start researching colleges that accept applications after April 1. Add three more schools to their RD list with acceptance rates of 25-35%. Don't tell student about the "what if" plans.
- Student completes all the rest of their applications.
- Student gets in ED2 and withdraws their applications.



The ED2 school was supposedly more competitive than the ED1 school; 6% vs 13%.

What we learned:
- ED1 is really only for athletes and other kids who check special boxes of institutional priorities. It is a great way for them to ensure the stats for the incoming class look great to USNWR and up their rankings.
- Even kids who thought they had athletic commits got screwed at ED1
- Even kids with stellar GPAs, amazing ECs, and checked diversity boxes were rejected ED1 (not our DC but their friends)
- It is a lottery.

Try to keep your kid from falling in love with a single school, but to find good things about all the schools on their lists and that they could be happy at any one of them. Happy kids make for better students, regardless of where they are.

There you go! was that this year? could you share the schools? congrats!