RMSC's pricing

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

RMSC is notorious for the crowded lanes, particularly at the junior level. We are with one of the other more expensive clubs and there are 4-5 kids per lane max and the practice group is nowhere near 60 kids, probably more like 20.

What is the junior level? At our club - way more expensive- 6-8 swimmers per lane and total chaos. Kids who are really fast are in smaller groups that don’t have that happening.

All the regular levels are like that for each of the groups. Higher levels have smaller groups which the lower levels probably subsidize. Juniors is just the age group. They have the regular level, then multiple higher levels depending on speed.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

6-9 per lane is very high. ASA is 3-4.

My RMSC swimmer’s group has 4/lane.

We've never had 4 per lane except when multiple kids don't show up.

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Does anyone know how the ksac closing will effect high school teams?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the ksac closing will effect high school teams?

I'm sure they'll just make plans to use one of the other facilities in the county with most or all going to the new facility in Silver Spring.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

6-9 per lane is very high. ASA is 3-4.

My RMSC swimmer’s group has 4/lane.

We've never had 4 per lane except when multiple kids don't show up.

just like any sports, if you kids at the highest group, there will be fewer kids.. basically lower groups will subsidize the faster kids

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

6-9 per lane is very high. ASA is 3-4.

My RMSC swimmer’s group has 4/lane.

We've never had 4 per lane except when multiple kids don't show up.

just like any sports, if you kids at the highest group, there will be fewer kids.. basically lower groups will subsidize the faster kids

Higher groups pay more $

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the ksac closing will effect high school teams?

I'm sure they'll just make plans to use one of the other facilities in the county with most or all going to the new facility in Silver Spring.

This is what we’re hearing, with some extended use of Glenmont outdoor pool also possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

6-9 per lane is very high. ASA is 3-4.

My RMSC swimmer’s group has 4/lane.

We've never had 4 per lane except when multiple kids don't show up.

I just verified the numbers and for my daughter's RMSC group, in theory, when everyone shows up, there are 8 kids per lane. But, that typically isn't what happens so it's usually around 5 or 6.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

6-9 per lane is very high. ASA is 3-4.

My RMSC swimmer’s group has 4/lane.

We've never had 4 per lane except when multiple kids don't show up.

I just verified the numbers and for my daughter's RMSC group, in theory, when everyone shows up, there are 8 kids per lane. But, that typically isn't what happens so it's usually around 5 or 6.

That makes more sense. We have some days everyone shows so it is very crowded. In Seniors the do split it up some days but not others. Minis and juniors was everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

DC Wave is much lower.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg - that is so cheap.

I can't believe how inexpensive all the groups are and the fact that registration includes caps and a suit. They are probably the most inexpensive club in the DC area. Do they fundraise a lot or does the county pay a lot of it.

The pricing is so low because of it’s affiliation with the county and their exclusive use of county operated pools.

Last year there wasn't a suit included. The one that was included this year, IMO, is not as good(quality/fit) as the "team" suit we bought last year. The "free" caps are flimsy, most opt to pay for the better quality ones and personalize them w/ their names on the sides but both are adequate options if are watching your budget.

All the registration/payment is done through the Montgomery County Department of Recreation so I guess there's some sort of contract/agreement between the club and the county which I imagine includes cheaper rates for pool time which I'm guessing accounts for most of the difference in the lower cost.

They get to use the county pools for free. The county also handles a lot of the admin for free. This is why they are cheaper than the other clubs.

From their website:

RMSC currently has over 80 coaches working with more than 1700 swimmers at 5 sites. RMSC is operated as a joint program between the City of Rockville and Montgomery County Recreation (MCR). Each of the RMSC sites offers a full program for competitive swimmers at every level from mini-team through national caliber. Our sites are located throughout Montgomery County in Rockville, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Olney, and Germantown.


I get the sense that it's essentially a county offering or a county-RMSC co-operative offering so there likely an agreement/MOU between the two.

City of Rockville heavily subsidizes their pool/program and that location is far cheaper than other locations and more competitive. It is between RMSC, City of Rockville and the county. Other pools are just RMSC and the county.

County and city handle registration and other things. They get pool time for free. So, some of the high costs don't make sense when it's just the coaches and overhead. Kids provide their own equipment. Our group has 60 kids in it.

Where are the high costs you are talking about? Even the highest group is a third of what another club would price it at. Coaches are expensive. All club swimmers provide their own equipment.

It does not matter what other clubs charge as it is not comparable.

You are basically paying for coaching and sone overhead. Our group has 60 or so kids with 6-9 kids per lane. Very little real coaching.

For the posters thinking why wouldn’t you go to RMSC given the prices, the above is the drawback to it being affordable. The groups are large, there are way too many kids per lane, and if your kid isn’t a standout they will get lost in the shuffle.

That is true at pretty much all clubs.

6-9 per lane is very high. ASA is 3-4.

My RMSC swimmer’s group has 4/lane.

We've never had 4 per lane except when multiple kids don't show up.

I just verified the numbers and for my daughter's RMSC group, in theory, when everyone shows up, there are 8 kids per lane. But, that typically isn't what happens so it's usually around 5 or 6.

What group and level is she? Which site?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the ksac closing will effect high school teams?

Kennedy Shriver Aquatic Center? Are they closing for renovations?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the ksac closing will effect high school teams?

Kennedy Shriver Aquatic Center? Are they closing for renovations?

Yes, eventually. We've been told as early as this summer, but it sounds like delays are likely.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the ksac closing will effect high school teams?

Kennedy Shriver Aquatic Center? Are they closing for renovations?

KSAC swimmers will move to the new Silver Spring indoor pool, so I'd assume the high school teams will to or they will go to the other pools. They are closing for maybe 2 year or so. It really needs it.