Why don’t people train their dogs?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don't mind a less than 10 pound dog pulling the leash or jumping and I would never address that in training if it wasn't hurting either of us. Puppies always get a pass learning, they are usually chasing down leaves for fun while leashed so it looks like chaos.

As long as your dog never jumps on anyone else, fine.


My dog jumps on people as a way to be affectionate. Dog is harness. However, why are you getting that close to a dog who is jumping on you. You also need boundaries. Ours is just excited.


Exhibit A of a bad, lazy dog owner.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Most dog owners don’t actually have the time needed to properly take care of a dog. They are over scheduled with work, family, etc. Dog training takes time and effort.


This - and they often pick the wrong dog breed for their family by focusing on size, coat, overall aesthetics instead of temperament.


+2. Add in that people absolutely refuse to admit they’re in over their head. Reactive dogs really should be fairly isolated from other dogs and people, unless in a controlled training environment And that’s really hard to accomplish in the DMV.
Anonymous
To answer your question, OP - people are idiots, in general. Meaning, they do nothing for the greater good, and only think of themselves.

The other day, I was walking my dog. Another dog (dog number 2) was being walked, and a third little dog (across from dog 2).

I saw dog number two, and I avoided it, because it was reactive, and the owner was obviously stopped, working with it at the time.

Dog number three and owner literally stopped IN FRONT OF dog number two - as if it wanted to taunt and tease dog number two! The owner of dog number three literally decided to make a phone call in front of dog number two - who was reacting and pulling and stopped and in training.

I waited to see what would happen, in case dog number two (owner) needed witnesses.

People, if you see a reactive dog - it is YOUR job to keep moving - NOT to taunt the dog. Don't be a complete idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind a less than 10 pound dog pulling the leash or jumping and I would never address that in training if it wasn't hurting either of us. Puppies always get a pass learning, they are usually chasing down leaves for fun while leashed so it looks like chaos.

As long as your dog never jumps on anyone else, fine.


+1, leash pulling is not a big deal to me unless it's clear the person with the leash can't control the dog (if the dog is big, strong, or the person is just particularly lax). I would work to train that out of my dog because it makes walks stressful, but if someone else's dog does that and they can keep the dog away from me and my dog, I just view it as their problem.

If your dog jumps on me, unless it's like a new puppy, I get annoyed. A dog should not be putting his paws on strangers on the street! That is totally unacceptable behavior, and when I see it in a dog over a year old, I know that owner is just bad. There is no excuse for that.


PP here. It is their problem, obviously - but do you stay in front of that dog and taunt and tease it? Because if so, when (not if) your little Muffy, Biscuit, Cupcake gets eaten in front of your very eyes - because you sat there and taunted a reactive dog - it won't end well for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the result of untrainable dogs being adopted by the aDoPt DoNt ShOp fools.



Not true. In my neighborhood it's all expensive designer dogs and owners who've never had a dog before. The problems are caused because they believe their dog is more important than anyone and anything else and they don't know basic etiquette. The vast majority of the dogs are perfectly behaved but there are a few that are aggressive or jumpy, and the owners ignore it. Overall, the vast majority of the dogs are well behaved.
I think if you are seeing anything different, it's just basic statistics. There are more people who have dogs. People have always owned dogs and not had them trained.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind a less than 10 pound dog pulling the leash or jumping and I would never address that in training if it wasn't hurting either of us. Puppies always get a pass learning, they are usually chasing down leaves for fun while leashed so it looks like chaos.

As long as your dog never jumps on anyone else, fine.


+1, leash pulling is not a big deal to me unless it's clear the person with the leash can't control the dog (if the dog is big, strong, or the person is just particularly lax). I would work to train that out of my dog because it makes walks stressful, but if someone else's dog does that and they can keep the dog away from me and my dog, I just view it as their problem.

If your dog jumps on me, unless it's like a new puppy, I get annoyed. A dog should not be putting his paws on strangers on the street! That is totally unacceptable behavior, and when I see it in a dog over a year old, I know that owner is just bad. There is no excuse for that.


PP here. It is their problem, obviously - but do you stay in front of that dog and taunt and tease it? Because if so, when (not if) your little Muffy, Biscuit, Cupcake gets eaten in front of your very eyes - because you sat there and taunted a reactive dog - it won't end well for you.


Another bad dog owner blaming everyone else for what is entirely your responsibility. It’s your job to ensure your reactive dog is away from others. No one else’s. If you can’t do that, rehome the dog.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Most dog owners don’t actually have the time needed to properly take care of a dog. They are over scheduled with work, family, etc. Dog training takes time and effort.


This - and they often pick the wrong dog breed for their family by focusing on size, coat, overall aesthetics instead of temperament.


This. Also people have been mislead by others about dogs, like golden doodles and the like. They aren't "easy" dogs, yet they are touted as being perfect for busy families.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Very often they have no idea how. Or they think it’s mean to make the dog obey them, even though a hierarchical world is what a dog instinctively desires. Or they’re lazy. Lots of reasons. PP is correct that few dogs are untrainable. I knew a family that had an energetic and intelligent sled-type dog. The dog ran the show. They went to a professional trainer. The dog was fine with him, because it was the owners who needed to be trained first. They finally gave up and gave the dog to a person they worked with. I saw it a few months earlier and it was perfectly obedient. Because what mattered was the owner’s behavior.

+1
Everyone has a reason why their dog's behavior is okay and we should all be fine with it. But mostly it's that they don't actually have the time or energy, they think it's "mean," or they are lazy or overly indulgent. And entitled, because we're all supposed to LOVE their furbabies and if we don't we're the heartless monsters.

We don't currently have a dog because I think having a pet is a responsibility, and if you can't properly train your pet and provide them the exercise and attention they need, you shouldn't have one. But a lot of people don't feel that way. They get a dog because they or their kids want one, period.


+1 and it's really hard to get them the exercise they need when there are so few spaces for them to run. You can say people shouldn't get a dog if they can't manage the time, but so many dog owners don't tell the truth about how much work and $ it is. The dog owners who are honest about how hard it can be are few and far between. My friends who pushed me to have a dog weren't honest about any of the work/$$. Only one dog owner was honest about how hard it was. The happiest dog owners I know aren't dual income and don't travel much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind a less than 10 pound dog pulling the leash or jumping and I would never address that in training if it wasn't hurting either of us. Puppies always get a pass learning, they are usually chasing down leaves for fun while leashed so it looks like chaos.

As long as your dog never jumps on anyone else, fine.


My dog jumps on people as a way to be affectionate. Dog is harness. However, why are you getting that close to a dog who is jumping on you. You also need boundaries. Ours is just excited.


Agree. If you are going to be approaching a leashed dog, you should be asking the owner if he is friendly and ok to pet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind a less than 10 pound dog pulling the leash or jumping and I would never address that in training if it wasn't hurting either of us. Puppies always get a pass learning, they are usually chasing down leaves for fun while leashed so it looks like chaos.

As long as your dog never jumps on anyone else, fine.


+1, leash pulling is not a big deal to me unless it's clear the person with the leash can't control the dog (if the dog is big, strong, or the person is just particularly lax). I would work to train that out of my dog because it makes walks stressful, but if someone else's dog does that and they can keep the dog away from me and my dog, I just view it as their problem.

If your dog jumps on me, unless it's like a new puppy, I get annoyed. A dog should not be putting his paws on strangers on the street! That is totally unacceptable behavior, and when I see it in a dog over a year old, I know that owner is just bad. There is no excuse for that.


PP here. It is their problem, obviously - but do you stay in front of that dog and taunt and tease it? Because if so, when (not if) your little Muffy, Biscuit, Cupcake gets eaten in front of your very eyes - because you sat there and taunted a reactive dog - it won't end well for you.


Another bad dog owner blaming everyone else for what is entirely your responsibility. It’s your job to ensure your reactive dog is away from others. No one else’s. If you can’t do that, rehome the dog.

Disagree. The dog owner could see that the dog was being corrected after pulling and reacting. You don’t plant your dog right in front of another in a situation like that. SHE was the dog owner acting poorly in that situation, not the dog owner actively correcting her dog.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind a less than 10 pound dog pulling the leash or jumping and I would never address that in training if it wasn't hurting either of us. Puppies always get a pass learning, they are usually chasing down leaves for fun while leashed so it looks like chaos.

As long as your dog never jumps on anyone else, fine.


+1, leash pulling is not a big deal to me unless it's clear the person with the leash can't control the dog (if the dog is big, strong, or the person is just particularly lax). I would work to train that out of my dog because it makes walks stressful, but if someone else's dog does that and they can keep the dog away from me and my dog, I just view it as their problem.

If your dog jumps on me, unless it's like a new puppy, I get annoyed. A dog should not be putting his paws on strangers on the street! That is totally unacceptable behavior, and when I see it in a dog over a year old, I know that owner is just bad. There is no excuse for that.


PP here. It is their problem, obviously - but do you stay in front of that dog and taunt and tease it? Because if so, when (not if) your little Muffy, Biscuit, Cupcake gets eaten in front of your very eyes - because you sat there and taunted a reactive dog - it won't end well for you.


Another bad dog owner blaming everyone else for what is entirely your responsibility. It’s your job to ensure your reactive dog is away from others. No one else’s. If you can’t do that, rehome the dog.

Disagree. The dog owner could see that the dog was being corrected after pulling and reacting. You don’t plant your dog right in front of another in a situation like that. SHE was the dog owner acting poorly in that situation, not the dog owner actively correcting her dog.


+1

You don't antagonize other dogs/owners, and try to feign ignorance - it is obvious you are being a complete d*ck.
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