Israel’s most right-wing government ever

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Anonymous wrote:As a moderate American Jew, I say cut off funding. Now.



It's funny how the US is expected to stand with Israel on its main issues of concern but Israel feels no reciprocal obligation.


Israel is a great ally of the US. We have many US servicemen stationed(about 100k) in Israel. We use their airfield and air space continually. It’s the minimum any true ally would provide. Israel provided troops in our war against terrorism, Iraq and Afghanistan. These air bases in Israel were key to the US victory over the forces of Bashar al-Assad. Otherwise our brave service members would have to come from bases many many miles way.

Israel’s would never support Putin and his genocide war against the Ukraine. Never again…right?


100k US servicemen? Complete fiction. There are less than 125 US troops stationed in Israel. Yes, 125. Not 125k.
Israel did not have troops on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. The most they did is provide some intel and help support some training, along with conducting a handful of their own independent bombing missions.


Lol but Israel is the best ally the US has! Who cares is they do not actually do things that an ally would do. If fact they do the opposite.


Agree. In addition to what they do, it’s what they are. Israel’s values are not American values. They are a theocracy with ethnic nationalism at the core. If you are not the right religion or ethnicity (depending on how they define Judaism for their political purposes), then you cannot own land, you cannot go to the same schools, and you possibly can’t even vote (talking about the non-“pure” people who live under martial law—West Bank Jews enjoy full right, others get. I rights whatsoever). Make all the excuses you want, I call it in-American.


What do you mean? Who can't own land, attend schools, vote?


A Palestinian Christian living in the west bank or east Jerusalem does not have the same property rights as a Jewish Israeli citizen, but that's been the case since Israel's founding.


A Muslim or Christian living in Tel Aviv cannot buy property and cannot obtain permits to renovate property they already own. Muslims and Christians are not allowed to attend Jewish schools, separate but equal style. That's all inside Israel proper, according to their civil code. Outside of Israel proper in occcupied territory (West Bank), civil law doesn't apply at all. Muslims and Christians are subject to martial law and have no rights at all. But please continue deluding yourself that Israel is a democracy.


So some of the people in the new government are working to “reform” the courts. This will end any readdress for non Jews in Israel.


At least they’re consistent! The “liberals” and “progressives” are the same. There is no progressive Zionist. There are only Zionists who think they’re progressive because they put their heads in the sand and ignore how life actually is for half the people living under the regime.
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For the sixth time in his long career, Binyamin Netanyahu, aged 73, was sworn in as Israel’s prime minister on December 29th. But the cabinet that joined him on the front bench of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, is like no other Israeli government that has preceded it.

Among the new ministers congratulating each other on the government’s inauguration was a former member of an organisation denounced for advocating terrorism who becomes Israel’s new national-security minister; a finance minister who believes that following God’s commandments is the key to economic policy; and a justice minister who plans to eviscerate the power of Israel’s Supreme Court, long regarded as a bastion of liberal-minded independence.


https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2022/12/29/israels-new-government-is-the-most-right-wing-ever

These are some of the people now in charge.

Itamar Ben Gvir, an extremist who has been convicted for supporting terrorism and inciting anti-Arab racism, will take on the renamed national security minister, overseeing police in Israel plus some police activity in the occupied West Bank.

Bezalel Smotrich, leader of the Religious Zionism party, has been named minister of finance, and has also been given power to appoint the head of the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), an Israeli military unit which among its duties handles border crossings and permits for Palestinians.
Smotrich had proposed a series of drastic legal reforms, seen by many critics as a clear way to undercut judicial independence. This includes dropping the ability to charge a public servant with fraud and breach of trust – a charge Netanyahu faces in his ongoing corruption trial.

Also new big push for more settlements.



You believe in voting and democracy or not?

Color me confused.
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Anonymous wrote:
For the sixth time in his long career, Binyamin Netanyahu, aged 73, was sworn in as Israel’s prime minister on December 29th. But the cabinet that joined him on the front bench of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, is like no other Israeli government that has preceded it.

Among the new ministers congratulating each other on the government’s inauguration was a former member of an organisation denounced for advocating terrorism who becomes Israel’s new national-security minister; a finance minister who believes that following God’s commandments is the key to economic policy; and a justice minister who plans to eviscerate the power of Israel’s Supreme Court, long regarded as a bastion of liberal-minded independence.


https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2022/12/29/israels-new-government-is-the-most-right-wing-ever

These are some of the people now in charge.

Itamar Ben Gvir, an extremist who has been convicted for supporting terrorism and inciting anti-Arab racism, will take on the renamed national security minister, overseeing police in Israel plus some police activity in the occupied West Bank.

Bezalel Smotrich, leader of the Religious Zionism party, has been named minister of finance, and has also been given power to appoint the head of the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), an Israeli military unit which among its duties handles border crossings and permits for Palestinians.
Smotrich had proposed a series of drastic legal reforms, seen by many critics as a clear way to undercut judicial independence. This includes dropping the ability to charge a public servant with fraud and breach of trust – a charge Netanyahu faces in his ongoing corruption trial.

Also new big push for more settlements.



You believe in voting and democracy or not?

Color me confused.


Israeli Supreme Court President Esther Hayut warned on Thursday that the Netanyahu government’s plan to overhaul Israel's judicial system is aimed at “crushing” the independent judiciary and, if implemented, will “deal a fatal blow” to the country's democracy.


https://www.axios.com/2023/01/13/netanyahu-judicial-overhaul-supreme-court-hayut
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a moderate American Jew, I say cut off funding. Now.



It's funny how the US is expected to stand with Israel on its main issues of concern but Israel feels no reciprocal obligation.


Israel is a great ally of the US. We have many US servicemen stationed(about 100k) in Israel. We use their airfield and air space continually. It’s the minimum any true ally would provide. Israel provided troops in our war against terrorism, Iraq and Afghanistan. These air bases in Israel were key to the US victory over the forces of Bashar al-Assad. Otherwise our brave service members would have to come from bases many many miles way.

Israel’s would never support Putin and his genocide war against the Ukraine. Never again…right?


100k US servicemen? Complete fiction. There are less than 125 US troops stationed in Israel. Yes, 125. Not 125k.
Israel did not have troops on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. The most they did is provide some intel and help support some training, along with conducting a handful of their own independent bombing missions.


Lol but Israel is the best ally the US has! Who cares is they do not actually do things that an ally would do. If fact they do the opposite.


Agree. In addition to what they do, it’s what they are. Israel’s values are not American values. They are a theocracy with ethnic nationalism at the core. If you are not the right religion or ethnicity (depending on how they define Judaism for their political purposes), then you cannot own land, you cannot go to the same schools, and you possibly can’t even vote (talking about the non-“pure” people who live under martial law—West Bank Jews enjoy full right, others get. I rights whatsoever). Make all the excuses you want, I call it in-American.


What do you mean? Who can't own land, attend schools, vote?


A Palestinian Christian living in the west bank or east Jerusalem does not have the same property rights as a Jewish Israeli citizen, but that's been the case since Israel's founding.


A Muslim or Christian living in Tel Aviv cannot buy property and cannot obtain permits to renovate property they already own. Muslims and Christians are not allowed to attend Jewish schools, separate but equal style. That's all inside Israel proper, according to their civil code. Outside of Israel proper in occcupied territory (West Bank), civil law doesn't apply at all. Muslims and Christians are subject to martial law and have no rights at all. But please continue deluding yourself that Israel is a democracy.


This is untrue.
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