Westland and Pyle geographic zoning seems crazy?

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Wait, how is the Whole Foods on River Road "the Chevy Chase Whole Foods"? The only Whole Foods in Chevy Chase is Friendship Heights. (And it's zoned for Westland!)

[Anonymous]

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Wait, how is the Whole Foods on River Road "the Chevy Chase Whole Foods"? The only Whole Foods in Chevy Chase is Friendship Heights. (And it's zoned for Westland!)

It's in the Greater Chevy Chase.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

That particular listing is correct. But you can always verify an address's current school zones at MCPS's site:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/SchoolAssignmentTool2/Index.xhtml

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

That particular listing is correct. But you can always verify an address's current school zones at MCPS's site:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/SchoolAssignmentTool2/Index.xhtml

Right. And the PP’s point was that Kenwood is zoned for Westland, because there were statements up thread there Kenwood is zoned for Pyle. That apartment building isn’t in Kenwood.

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

That particular listing is correct. But you can always verify an address's current school zones at MCPS's site:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/SchoolAssignmentTool2/Index.xhtml

Right. And the PP’s point was that Kenwood is zoned for Westland, because there were statements up thread there Kenwood is zoned for Pyle. That apartment building isn’t in Kenwood.

The Kenwood apartment building is at the entrance to Kenwood neighborhood. The Kenwood apartment building is in BCC cluster, while Kenwood neighborhood is in Whitman cluster.

It’s confusing.

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

That particular listing is correct. But you can always verify an address's current school zones at MCPS's site:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/SchoolAssignmentTool2/Index.xhtml

Right. And the PP’s point was that Kenwood is zoned for Westland, because there were statements up thread there Kenwood is zoned for Pyle. That apartment building isn’t in Kenwood.

The Kenwood apartment building is at the entrance to Kenwood neighborhood. The Kenwood apartment building is in BCC cluster, while Kenwood neighborhood is in Whitman cluster.

It’s confusing.

Does this make it less confusing?

The neighborhoods in white on this map are zoned for Westbrook, Westland, and BCC:
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WestbrookES.pdf

The neighborhoods in white on this map are zoned for Wood Acres, Pyle, and Whitman:
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WoodAcresES.pdf

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Kenwood Park and Kenwood are two different neighborhoods as well.

[Anonymous]

MCPC have tried very hard to social engineering the school boundaries. Have you noticed the kids in the shelter on north side of Greentree Rd are attending Whitman instead of WJ?
Kids live near River rd and seneca rd attend NWHS in Germantown, passing QOHS on their bus ride. Rio is an island. Gaithersburg HS’ boundary is stretched from east side of 270 to the northeast end of MC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPC have tried very hard to social engineering the school boundaries. Have you noticed the kids in the shelter on north side of Greentree Rd are attending Whitman instead of WJ?
Kids live near River rd and seneca rd attend NWHS in Germantown, passing QOHS on their bus ride. Rio is an island. Gaithersburg HS’ boundary is stretched from east side of 270 to the northeast end of MC.

Oh, that's terrible! Which bus route, specifically, goes past Quince Orchard HS?

Rio will stop being an island after the Crown HS boundary study.

I'm laughing about the "social engineering" involved in assigning Wyngate to WJ instead of Whitman.

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

That particular listing is correct. But you can always verify an address's current school zones at MCPS's site:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/SchoolAssignmentTool2/Index.xhtml

Right. And the PP’s point was that Kenwood is zoned for Westland, because there were statements up thread there Kenwood is zoned for Pyle. That apartment building isn’t in Kenwood.

The Kenwood apartment building is at the entrance to Kenwood neighborhood. The Kenwood apartment building is in BCC cluster, while Kenwood neighborhood is in Whitman cluster.

It’s confusing.

The Kenwood neighborhood (yes I mean the big houses and the cherry blossoms, not the apts) are now zoned for Westland. This was the latest boundary change. But few of those kids go to public school bluntly (I'm in a nearby neighborhood)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Wait, how is the Whole Foods on River Road "the Chevy Chase Whole Foods"? The only Whole Foods in Chevy Chase is Friendship Heights. (And it's zoned for Westland!)

I think technically the Whole Foods is in Bethesda 20816 but the neighborhood it’s serving is Kenwood and that’s 20815.

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Yes, it's geographically bizarre and contributes to a lot of bus and car traffic in and around downtown Bethesda. It's stupid. But all in the name of socio-economic diversity, so...

We live closer to Pyle, but have to schlep all the way to Westland. I knew someone who lived right next to Westland and had to schlep all the way to Pyle.

Wait. This isn't true at all. OP is talking about neighborhoods like Kenwood near the Chevy Chase Whole Foods, that are geographically close to Westland but zoned to Pyle/Whitman. If anything, that zoning is about preserving economic segregation, not diversity.

More to the point, it is impossible for every school to be at the exact center of the attendance zone. Schools are built where there is property, and MCPS likes to preserve a clean articulation between ES --> MS --> HS, and sometimes that means that a certain attendance zone feels a little incongruous. So, in this case, a neighborhood like Kenwood is zoned to Pyle (not the closest school) but also Whitman (closest school).

Kenwood is zoned for Westland. It was switched from Somerset ES to Westbrook ES recently, but both Somerset and Westbrook feed into Westland then BCC.

so is zoning on real estate web sites wrong? Like e.g. this apartment on Westbard literally across the street from Westland but apparently zoned to Pyle? https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/5325-Westbard-Ave-20816/unit-219/home/181126746

That particular listing is correct. But you can always verify an address's current school zones at MCPS's site:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/SchoolAssignmentTool2/Index.xhtml

Right. And the PP’s point was that Kenwood is zoned for Westland, because there were statements up thread there Kenwood is zoned for Pyle. That apartment building isn’t in Kenwood.

The Kenwood apartment building is at the entrance to Kenwood neighborhood. The Kenwood apartment building is in BCC cluster, while Kenwood neighborhood is in Whitman cluster.

It’s confusing.

The Kenwood neighborhood (yes I mean the big houses and the cherry blossoms, not the apts) are now zoned for Westland. This was the latest boundary change. But few of those kids go to public school bluntly (I'm in a nearby neighborhood)

Kenwood has always been zone to Westland. The change that just happened means they’re going to Westbrook instead of Somerset, but then they still go to Westland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kenwood Park and Kenwood are two different neighborhoods as well.

And Kenwood goes to BCC while Kenwood Park goes to Whitman <mind blown emoji>

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPC have tried very hard to social engineering the school boundaries. Have you noticed the kids in the shelter on north side of Greentree Rd are attending Whitman instead of WJ?
Kids live near River rd and seneca rd attend NWHS in Germantown, passing QOHS on their bus ride. Rio is an island. Gaithersburg HS’ boundary is stretched from east side of 270 to the northeast end of MC.

Oh, that's terrible! Which bus route, specifically, goes past Quince Orchard HS?

Rio will stop being an island after the Crown HS boundary study.

I'm laughing about the "social engineering" involved in assigning Wyngate to WJ instead of Whitman.

Darnestwon ES covers southeast side of QCHS, but its students go to NWHS.

Do you know why Rio is an island?

I meant the one address on the north-side of Greentree Rd was assigned to Whitman boundary, instead of Wyngate/NBMS/WJ. Not about Wyngate ES.