MCPS in National News

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I am not clicking on Fox News links for a "voice of reason" but nice try

LOL ! I agree with psychologist in this case. For a transition such as this, parents should be involved- the youth need support. To assume the parents will be bigoted and not supportive is ...wild.

If FOX news is for that it has to be pure evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I am not clicking on Fox News links for a "voice of reason" but nice try

LOL ! I agree with psychologist in this case. For a transition such as this, parents should be involved- the youth need support. To assume the parents will be bigoted and not supportive is ...wild.

This happened to a friend of mine. Child changed pronouns at school and they were not informed. They are completely supportive but their son has many other things going on and they want to understand the root of the issues before going all in on a transition to female for an 11 year old. I think that parents need to know unless there is reason to believe that the child is in an unsafe situation.

If a child is in an unsafe situation, it should be reported to CPS. Teachers should not make that judgment call as they are not trained or qualified and with serious mental health issues, could put the child in greater danger, especially if they are suicidal. These kids need mental health and other supports that MCPS and teachers are not qualified.

Your first and second sentences are contradictory. On the one hand you say that teachers should report dangerous situations to CPS but on the other you say they are not qualified to make such judgements. MCPS rules don't require teachers to make any judgements. They use the pronouns that a student desires and don't have responsibility for informing parents. How would school personnel even know which families would be supportive and which wouldn't? Students can inform their families themselves if they believe they will be supported.

If a child is exploring gender identity, their parent should be informed/involved, period. Leaving a parent out of the equation is deceptive. This is not something we want to be encouraging children to do. I liked the analogy that a teacher wouldn't hide a bad grade from a parent who might be abusive about it. The same should hold true (and even more so) for a child's journey of gender exploration.

So, if I find out a girl is wearing skirt I should inform the parent of their child's identity? What?

If a student wants to be called Joey instead of Joseph, I should call the parents? What?

If a boy is bragging about banging chicks or getting a BJ, I should call the parent? Yes please.

If a student who is getting straight A's tells me they have not intention of going to college even though their parents think they are Ivy material, I should call the parents? Yes please

Why is it only one group of people you want teachers to stalk and report? I don't

Honey, if you are such a terrible parent that you don't know these things the problem is the parent not the teachers.

Nah, my kids share everything with me. But I would want to know if they were exploring something like gender identity because it is complex and needs family support.

But not underage sex, or drinking, or drugs? What about if they are gay? Or roll their skirt when they leave home?

This is mcps. There are no uniforms so rolling skirts is not relevant. Any teacher willing to keep secrets makes me question them as what if it’s sex abuse from another teacher? If you are concerned about abuse you report it. Secrets are never good and you are not qualified to handle these situations.

Parents buy skirts and nice clothes then girls roll them and take off their top to only wear tanks all the time. I don't think choosing a pronoun is abuse so no reason to notify parents.

If I told every parent every secret I found out I would need an assistant to manage all of the emails and meetings.

You must have a toddler.

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Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

if you suspect the 14 yo was raped you call CPS... never.ever.ever call the parents.

WTF you think is getting a 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 yo pregnant? Their boyfriend? NO!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

if you suspect the 14 yo was raped you call CPS... never.ever.ever call the parents.

WTF you think is getting a 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 yo pregnant? Their boyfriend? NO!

What if it occurred at school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

if you suspect the 14 yo was raped you call CPS... never.ever.ever call the parents.

WTF you think is getting a 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 yo pregnant? Their boyfriend? NO!

No, you call the parents or police. Cps does not handle rape except by parents and you still call the police. Young kids can get pregnant by many ways.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I am not clicking on Fox News links for a "voice of reason" but nice try

LOL ! I agree with psychologist in this case. For a transition such as this, parents should be involved- the youth need support. To assume the parents will be bigoted and not supportive is ...wild.

This happened to a friend of mine. Child changed pronouns at school and they were not informed. They are completely supportive but their son has many other things going on and they want to understand the root of the issues before going all in on a transition to female for an 11 year old. I think that parents need to know unless there is reason to believe that the child is in an unsafe situation.

If a child is in an unsafe situation, it should be reported to CPS. Teachers should not make that judgment call as they are not trained or qualified and with serious mental health issues, could put the child in greater danger, especially if they are suicidal. These kids need mental health and other supports that MCPS and teachers are not qualified.

Your first and second sentences are contradictory. On the one hand you say that teachers should report dangerous situations to CPS but on the other you say they are not qualified to make such judgements. MCPS rules don't require teachers to make any judgements. They use the pronouns that a student desires and don't have responsibility for informing parents. How would school personnel even know which families would be supportive and which wouldn't? Students can inform their families themselves if they believe they will be supported.

If a child is exploring gender identity, their parent should be informed/involved, period. Leaving a parent out of the equation is deceptive. This is not something we want to be encouraging children to do. I liked the analogy that a teacher wouldn't hide a bad grade from a parent who might be abusive about it. The same should hold true (and even more so) for a child's journey of gender exploration.

So, if I find out a girl is wearing skirt I should inform the parent of their child's identity? What?

If a student wants to be called Joey instead of Joseph, I should call the parents? What?

If a boy is bragging about banging chicks or getting a BJ, I should call the parent? Yes please.

If a student who is getting straight A's tells me they have not intention of going to college even though their parents think they are Ivy material, I should call the parents? Yes please

Why is it only one group of people you want teachers to stalk and report? I don't

Honey, if you are such a terrible parent that you don't know these things the problem is the parent not the teachers.

Nah, my kids share everything with me. But I would want to know if they were exploring something like gender identity because it is complex and needs family support.

But not underage sex, or drinking, or drugs? What about if they are gay? Or roll their skirt when they leave home?

This is mcps. There are no uniforms so rolling skirts is not relevant. Any teacher willing to keep secrets makes me question them as what if it’s sex abuse from another teacher? If you are concerned about abuse you report it. Secrets are never good and you are not qualified to handle these situations.

Parents buy skirts and nice clothes then girls roll them and take off their top to only wear tanks all the time. I don't think choosing a pronoun is abuse so no reason to notify parents.

If I told every parent every secret I found out I would need an assistant to manage all of the emails and meetings.

You must have a toddler.

No, I have a teen. This is mcps. There is no dress code. So, if girls want short skirts so be it. If they want tanks, so be it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

Not a teacher, but if I learned that my kid was out at school and not at home, I would

1) Actively seek to improve my relationship with my child so they would trust me enough to share with me first in the future.

2) Be grateful that my child had one or more trusted adults outside the family they knew they could go to for support.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I am not clicking on Fox News links for a "voice of reason" but nice try

LOL ! I agree with psychologist in this case. For a transition such as this, parents should be involved- the youth need support. To assume the parents will be bigoted and not supportive is ...wild.

This happened to a friend of mine. Child changed pronouns at school and they were not informed. They are completely supportive but their son has many other things going on and they want to understand the root of the issues before going all in on a transition to female for an 11 year old. I think that parents need to know unless there is reason to believe that the child is in an unsafe situation.

If a child is in an unsafe situation, it should be reported to CPS. Teachers should not make that judgment call as they are not trained or qualified and with serious mental health issues, could put the child in greater danger, especially if they are suicidal. These kids need mental health and other supports that MCPS and teachers are not qualified.

Your first and second sentences are contradictory. On the one hand you say that teachers should report dangerous situations to CPS but on the other you say they are not qualified to make such judgements. MCPS rules don't require teachers to make any judgements. They use the pronouns that a student desires and don't have responsibility for informing parents. How would school personnel even know which families would be supportive and which wouldn't? Students can inform their families themselves if they believe they will be supported.

If a child is exploring gender identity, their parent should be informed/involved, period. Leaving a parent out of the equation is deceptive. This is not something we want to be encouraging children to do. I liked the analogy that a teacher wouldn't hide a bad grade from a parent who might be abusive about it. The same should hold true (and even more so) for a child's journey of gender exploration.

So, if I find out a girl is wearing skirt I should inform the parent of their child's identity? What?

If a student wants to be called Joey instead of Joseph, I should call the parents? What?

If a boy is bragging about banging chicks or getting a BJ, I should call the parent? Yes please.

If a student who is getting straight A's tells me they have not intention of going to college even though their parents think they are Ivy material, I should call the parents? Yes please

Why is it only one group of people you want teachers to stalk and report? I don't

Honey, if you are such a terrible parent that you don't know these things the problem is the parent not the teachers.

Nah, my kids share everything with me. But I would want to know if they were exploring something like gender identity because it is complex and needs family support.

But not underage sex, or drinking, or drugs? What about if they are gay? Or roll their skirt when they leave home?

This is mcps. There are no uniforms so rolling skirts is not relevant. Any teacher willing to keep secrets makes me question them as what if it’s sex abuse from another teacher? If you are concerned about abuse you report it. Secrets are never good and you are not qualified to handle these situations.

Parents buy skirts and nice clothes then girls roll them and take off their top to only wear tanks all the time. I don't think choosing a pronoun is abuse so no reason to notify parents.

If I told every parent every secret I found out I would need an assistant to manage all of the emails and meetings.

You must have a toddler.

No, I have a teen. This is mcps. There is no dress code. So, if girls want short skirts so be it. If they want tanks, so be it.

Correct, but the same goes for pronouns and nicknames. If a student wants to wear a short skirt and tank top, great! If they want to go by they/them and be called Izzy instead of Isabella, also great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The link if from FOX which means it is crap.

As for MCPS I personally am now going to every single meeting. My kids are grown but I will be dammed if parents like the crap that posted get a say. People like Bethany Mandel who home schools her kids poor them because she's an idiot is not banning any books on my time.

Done with MAGA crap. 1000% done.

Lots of homeschool kids are being accepted at IL colleges; so NOT poor them as the mother is doing and choosing what’s best for them. You don’t want to be criticized by the way you raise your kids, so to each it’s own.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I am not clicking on Fox News links for a "voice of reason" but nice try

LOL ! I agree with psychologist in this case. For a transition such as this, parents should be involved- the youth need support. To assume the parents will be bigoted and not supportive is ...wild.

This happened to a friend of mine. Child changed pronouns at school and they were not informed. They are completely supportive but their son has many other things going on and they want to understand the root of the issues before going all in on a transition to female for an 11 year old. I think that parents need to know unless there is reason to believe that the child is in an unsafe situation.

If a child is in an unsafe situation, it should be reported to CPS. Teachers should not make that judgment call as they are not trained or qualified and with serious mental health issues, could put the child in greater danger, especially if they are suicidal. These kids need mental health and other supports that MCPS and teachers are not qualified.

Your first and second sentences are contradictory. On the one hand you say that teachers should report dangerous situations to CPS but on the other you say they are not qualified to make such judgements. MCPS rules don't require teachers to make any judgements. They use the pronouns that a student desires and don't have responsibility for informing parents. How would school personnel even know which families would be supportive and which wouldn't? Students can inform their families themselves if they believe they will be supported.

If a child is exploring gender identity, their parent should be informed/involved, period. Leaving a parent out of the equation is deceptive. This is not something we want to be encouraging children to do. I liked the analogy that a teacher wouldn't hide a bad grade from a parent who might be abusive about it. The same should hold true (and even more so) for a child's journey of gender exploration.

So, if I find out a girl is wearing skirt I should inform the parent of their child's identity? What?

If a student wants to be called Joey instead of Joseph, I should call the parents? What?

If a boy is bragging about banging chicks or getting a BJ, I should call the parent? Yes please.

If a student who is getting straight A's tells me they have not intention of going to college even though their parents think they are Ivy material, I should call the parents? Yes please

Why is it only one group of people you want teachers to stalk and report? I don't

Honey, if you are such a terrible parent that you don't know these things the problem is the parent not the teachers.

Nah, my kids share everything with me. But I would want to know if they were exploring something like gender identity because it is complex and needs family support.

But not underage sex, or drinking, or drugs? What about if they are gay? Or roll their skirt when they leave home?

This is mcps. There are no uniforms so rolling skirts is not relevant. Any teacher willing to keep secrets makes me question them as what if it’s sex abuse from another teacher? If you are concerned about abuse you report it. Secrets are never good and you are not qualified to handle these situations.

Parents buy skirts and nice clothes then girls roll them and take off their top to only wear tanks all the time. I don't think choosing a pronoun is abuse so no reason to notify parents.

If I told every parent every secret I found out I would need an assistant to manage all of the emails and meetings.

You must have a toddler.

No, I have a teen. This is mcps. There is no dress code. So, if girls want short skirts so be it. If they want tanks, so be it.

Correct, but the same goes for pronouns and nicknames. If a student wants to wear a short skirt and tank top, great! If they want to go by they/them and be called Izzy instead of Isabella, also great!

And, if a, if a kid wants to be called their real name and not be asked what their pronouns are that, should be respected too. They should be asked every day in every class. Waste of time. And, a teacher should not use a nickname except when wanted - we have that all the time, and one teacher called home complaining my kid didn't respond to their name when they didn't realize they were called on as it wasn't their name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The link if from FOX which means it is crap.

As for MCPS I personally am now going to every single meeting. My kids are grown but I will be dammed if parents like the crap that posted get a say. People like Bethany Mandel who home schools her kids poor them because she's an idiot is not banning any books on my time.

Done with MAGA crap. 1000% done.

Lots of homeschool kids are being accepted at IL colleges; so NOT poor them as the mother is doing and choosing what’s best for them. You don’t want to be criticized by the way you raise your kids, so to each it’s own.

They don't have kids in MCPS and are ranting about nothing. Or, they'd know there are very few books in MCPS. My kid hasn't read a real book all year at MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

if you suspect the 14 yo was raped you call CPS... never.ever.ever call the parents.

WTF you think is getting a 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 yo pregnant? Their boyfriend? NO!

You think a 14 yr old can only get pregnant by rape? You don't think some 14 yr girls get pregnant by their BFs? WTF pollyanna world do you live in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

Not a teacher, but if I learned that my kid was out at school and not at home, I would

1) Actively seek to improve my relationship with my child so they would trust me enough to share with me first in the future.

2) Be grateful that my child had one or more trusted adults outside the family they knew they could go to for support.

and you would be totally fine if the teacher never tells you that your DD is pregnant?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

if you suspect the 14 yo was raped you call CPS... never.ever.ever call the parents.

WTF you think is getting a 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 yo pregnant? Their boyfriend? NO!

https://silverchips.mbhs.edu/content/mcps-students-raise-sexual-assault-allegations-on-social-media-32875/

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-teacher-who-ran-for-congress-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-student/

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2018/08/06/mcps-school-bus-driver-charged-with-rape-abuse-of-special-education-student-placed-on-leave/

Here are just a few known incidents..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if a teacher finds out that a 14 yr old is pregnant by another 14 yr old, should they not tell the parents because they fear that the parent might be abusive to the teen?

Teachers should not be put in a position to be hiding information from parents about their child. If they suspect abuse, then call it in. Otherwise, the teacher is deciding what information the parent should/should not know about their own child, and that is outside a teacher's scope, not to mention how wrong that is.

How would a parent who is a teacher like it if another teacher felt they should withhold some info about their own child?

If a teacher thinks I’m harming my child, even emotionally, for using a different name in school, I hope to God they keep that info from me. Someone should protect my child if I’m that evil.