Woodward and Crown boundary timeline talk at BOE

[Anonymous]

Crown will take from QO for sure. Fields road is right there.

And Wootton parts of Dufief.

And RM maybe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crown will take from QO for sure. Fields road is right there.

And Wootton parts of Dufief.

And RM maybe.

As stated from the plan, it’ll take from Wootton, QO, RM, Northwest and Gaithersburg.

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Anonymous wrote:Crown will take from QO for sure. Fields road is right there.

And Wootton parts of Dufief.

And RM maybe.

As stated from the plan, it’ll take from Wootton, QO, RM, Northwest and Gaithersburg.

DP. But not necessarily every school will send students to Crown itself. For example. QO could send many students to Crown, and Northwest cold send some students to QO, or to Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:Crown will take from QO for sure. Fields road is right there.

And Wootton parts of Dufief.

And RM maybe.

As stated from the plan, it’ll take from Wootton, QO, RM, Northwest and Gaithersburg.

DP. But not necessarily every school will send students to Crown itself. For example. QO could send many students to Crown, and Northwest cold send some students to QO, or to Wootton.

That’s possible. That could mean QO would be completely changed for neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crown will take from QO for sure. Fields road is right there.

And Wootton parts of Dufief.

And RM maybe.

As stated from the plan, it’ll take from Wootton, QO, RM, Northwest and Gaithersburg.

DP. But not necessarily every school will send students to Crown itself. For example. QO could send many students to Crown, and Northwest cold send some students to QO, or to Wootton.

That’s possible. That could mean QO would be completely changed for neighborhoods.

Not completely changed, but yes at least 600-700 QO students will need to be reassigned to some other school (over a quarter of the students), so it will be a lot different afterwards.

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Anonymous wrote:Crown will take from QO for sure. Fields road is right there.

And Wootton parts of Dufief.

And RM maybe.

As stated from the plan, it’ll take from Wootton, QO, RM, Northwest and Gaithersburg.

DP. But not necessarily every school will send students to Crown itself. For example. QO could send many students to Crown, and Northwest cold send some students to QO, or to Wootton.

That’s possible. That could mean QO would be completely changed for neighborhoods.

Not completely changed, but yes at least 600-700 QO students will need to be reassigned to some other school (over a quarter of the students), so it will be a lot different afterwards.

QO will be about 600 students over capacity by 2027-2028. If northwest sends 400+ (per enrollment projection) to QO, then 1000+ students from QO will be rezoned to crown, which is about half of the enrollment of QO now.

[Anonymous]

Speculate all you want, no one will KNOW what they will do for certain until MCPS releases that information.

Remember, any prior decision/policy is not binding: they can make any changes want want

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

Are you also the person who keeps saying einstein to wj is half-way across the county?

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

Are you also the person who keeps saying einstein to wj is half-way across the county?

Whitman and Churchill also border WJ, but no one is obsessed with including them in the Woodward study.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

Are you also the person who keeps saying einstein to wj is half-way across the county?

Not the PP but I am curious why they bus kids who live a short walk from Einstein halfway across the county to an overcrowded W.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

Are you also the person who keeps saying einstein to wj is half-way across the county?

Not the PP but I am curious why they bus kids who live a short walk from Einstein halfway across the county to an overcrowded W.

1 - Einstein is overcrowded too (not just WJ)
2 - they are not bussed halfway across the county
3 - the town of Kensington has an arrangement that the entire town will go to the same high school

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Anonymous wrote:There was a preliminary discussion at the BOE meeting today about planning for the upcoming boundary studies relating to the opening of new Woodward and Crown high schools, and the significant expansions at Northwood and Damascus. They presented two possible timelines for when all three studies could happen.

The scope for the Woodward study could be determined soon, in February/March 2023, with the board's final boundary decisions coming in March 2025. Or, the scope could be determined later, in February/March 2024, with the final decision in November 2025. The school is set to open in August 2026. (The scope would include things like which schools/clusters would be looked at, whether only high schools or also middle schools, etc.)

The Crown study would be one year later in both scenarios, so Feb/Mar 2024 through March 2026, or Feb/Mar 2025 through November 2026, with an August 2027 opening.

The Damascus study would be February/March 2024 through November 2025, with an August 2026 opening.


They also showed a color-coded map of all the clusters currently connected to these projects, consistent with the CIP:
The Damascus project: the Damascus and Clarksburg clusters.
The Crown project: the Northwest, Quince Orchard, Wootton, Richard Montgomery, and Gaithersburg clusters.
The Woodward and Northwood projects: the Walter Johnson, Wheaton, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Blair clusters.

But they did make the point that in the process of determining the study scopes, they could end up different than the above. And board members also asked about the feasibility of combining all 13 clusters into one mammoth study. No real discussion of if or how that would work. They said they did not know yet how either of the new schools would be populated, with one, two, or three grades starting there the first year.

I'd heard Woodward mostly involved WJ, Einstein and BCC.

MCPS has said for several years now that Woodward was to help with overcrowding at WJ and the schools in the DCC. BCC has not been on the table - they just did an addition and aren't expected to be overcrowded for a long time.

Here come the protesting BCC parents again. Just like they did when BCC was first part of Woodward, in a Lyttonsville master plan. Then it came out. It might stay out, or might go back in. We won't know for a while yet, but you should keep on protesting, because, you know, it's a good look

This is an odd take. The PP you're responding to was accurate. (And no, I am not a BCC parent.)

No they really weren't but I can see how they'd like to spin things that way. In the end schools adjacent to Woodward's boundary, like BCC, will be affected.

BCC isn't adjacent to Woodward. WJ is between. But keep trying to drag BCC into it and maybe the BoE will listen. Might work even better if you testify and get the PTAs involved.

It sure is. Seriously, stop trying to pretend it isn't. Most of the people don't he north end of BCC's boundary are much closer to Woodward.

Are you also the person who keeps saying einstein to wj is half-way across the county?

Whitman and Churchill also border WJ, but no one is obsessed with including them in the Woodward study.

It's because, unlike those two BCC is due South of Woodward and its northern boundary is directly adjacent to WJ, Einstein. In fact, kids in that area are much closer to Einstein or Woodward than BCC.