Fights in MS - what are they fighting about?

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Anonymous wrote:My DS has come home a number of times this year and mentioned another fight in school. He goes to a W MS. What the heck are these kids fighting about.

Are they white kids? Why dont school admin do simething tobthem? Is this a perfect chance to show they don’t give white and rich kids a break but always target minority students?

If this is at one of the segregated schools, that lesson will be lost on them further cutting wealthy kids' breaks is SOP.

there are no segregated schools only rich ones not obtainable to most poor people, Rich minorities are welcome there. the only segregated schools would be the up and east county schools with gerrymandered boundaries that somehow exclude all the poor kids around them. Wooton, Sligo Creek and Woodlin looking at you.

Exactly, those West county schools whose boundaries were gerrymandered 40+ years ago with the expressed purpose of keeping out the poor. This is why those parents so vehemently oppose any boundary study even though it would massively reduce transportation costs.

You're kidding, right? Have you heard of the upcounty boundary study which the upcounty Clarksburg parents vehemently opposed because it would require more time on the road and more busses? Literally, my friend within his one block, there are kids assigned to Neelsville MS, to Rocky Hill MS, and John Poole MS. That's 3 middle schools- 3 busses going into this neighborhood to serve 3 different middle schools; and 3 busses for elementary, and 3 busses for high school. RIDICULOUS!

There will always be blocks where two or three schools come together.

I can't tell if you're joking or not but no, three elementary schools, 3 middle schools, and 3 high school assignments within one block (essentially a street) is not common; in fact I'd be interested to know which other neighborhoods have that. And no, a DCC neighborhood doesn't qualify. Secondly, stating that the boundary study decision resulted in massive reduction of transportation costs couldn't be further from the truth!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS has come home a number of times this year and mentioned another fight in school. He goes to a W MS. What the heck are these kids fighting about.

Are they white kids? Why dont school admin do simething tobthem? Is this a perfect chance to show they don’t give white and rich kids a break but always target minority students?

If this is at one of the segregated schools, that lesson will be lost on them further cutting wealthy kids' breaks is SOP.

there are no segregated schools only rich ones not obtainable to most poor people, Rich minorities are welcome there. the only segregated schools would be the up and east county schools with gerrymandered boundaries that somehow exclude all the poor kids around them. Wooton, Sligo Creek and Woodlin looking at you.

Exactly, those West county schools whose boundaries were gerrymandered 40+ years ago with the expressed purpose of keeping out the poor. This is why those parents so vehemently oppose any boundary study even though it would massively reduce transportation costs.

You're kidding, right? Have you heard of the upcounty boundary study which the upcounty Clarksburg parents vehemently opposed because it would require more time on the road and more busses? Literally, my friend within his one block, there are kids assigned to Neelsville MS, to Rocky Hill MS, and John Poole MS. That's 3 middle schools- 3 busses going into this neighborhood to serve 3 different middle schools; and 3 busses for elementary, and 3 busses for high school. RIDICULOUS!

There will always be blocks where two or three schools come together.

I can't tell if you're joking or not but no, three elementary schools, 3 middle schools, and 3 high school assignments within one block (essentially a street) is not common; in fact I'd be interested to know which other neighborhoods have that. And no, a DCC neighborhood doesn't qualify. Secondly, stating that the boundary study decision resulted in massive reduction of transportation costs couldn't be further from the truth!

On this map, every place where three lines come together will meet your criteria.
https://www.mocorealestate.com/maps/all-schools/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

That's odd all the W feeders I've seen have <5% Hispanic or AA populations.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS has come home a number of times this year and mentioned another fight in school. He goes to a W MS. What the heck are these kids fighting about.

Are they white kids? Why dont school admin do simething tobthem? Is this a perfect chance to show they don’t give white and rich kids a break but always target minority students?

If this is at one of the segregated schools, that lesson will be lost on them further cutting wealthy kids' breaks is SOP.

there are no segregated schools only rich ones not obtainable to most poor people, Rich minorities are welcome there. the only segregated schools would be the up and east county schools with gerrymandered boundaries that somehow exclude all the poor kids around them. Wooton, Sligo Creek and Woodlin looking at you.

Exactly, those West county schools whose boundaries were gerrymandered 40+ years ago with the expressed purpose of keeping out the poor. This is why those parents so vehemently oppose any boundary study even though it would massively reduce transportation costs.

You're kidding, right? Have you heard of the upcounty boundary study which the upcounty Clarksburg parents vehemently opposed because it would require more time on the road and more busses? Literally, my friend within his one block, there are kids assigned to Neelsville MS, to Rocky Hill MS, and John Poole MS. That's 3 middle schools- 3 busses going into this neighborhood to serve 3 different middle schools; and 3 busses for elementary, and 3 busses for high school. RIDICULOUS!

There will always be blocks where two or three schools come together.

I can't tell if you're joking or not but no, three elementary schools, 3 middle schools, and 3 high school assignments within one block (essentially a street) is not common; in fact I'd be interested to know which other neighborhoods have that. And no, a DCC neighborhood doesn't qualify. Secondly, stating that the boundary study decision resulted in massive reduction of transportation costs couldn't be further from the truth!

If they ever implemented new boundaries it sure would reduce these costs but there will still be places on the map where 3 lines meet just like now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DS has come home a number of times this year and mentioned another fight in school. He goes to a W MS. What the heck are these kids fighting about.

Are they white kids? Why dont school admin do simething tobthem? Is this a perfect chance to show they don’t give white and rich kids a break but always target minority students?

If this is at one of the segregated schools, that lesson will be lost on them further cutting wealthy kids' breaks is SOP.

there are no segregated schools only rich ones not obtainable to most poor people, Rich minorities are welcome there. the only segregated schools would be the up and east county schools with gerrymandered boundaries that somehow exclude all the poor kids around them. Wooton, Sligo Creek and Woodlin looking at you.

Exactly, those West county schools whose boundaries were gerrymandered 40+ years ago with the expressed purpose of keeping out the poor. This is why those parents so vehemently oppose any boundary study even though it would massively reduce transportation costs.

You're kidding, right? Have you heard of the upcounty boundary study which the upcounty Clarksburg parents vehemently opposed because it would require more time on the road and more busses? Literally, my friend within his one block, there are kids assigned to Neelsville MS, to Rocky Hill MS, and John Poole MS. That's 3 middle schools- 3 busses going into this neighborhood to serve 3 different middle schools; and 3 busses for elementary, and 3 busses for high school. RIDICULOUS!

There will always be blocks where two or three schools come together.

I can't tell if you're joking or not but no, three elementary schools, 3 middle schools, and 3 high school assignments within one block (essentially a street) is not common; in fact I'd be interested to know which other neighborhoods have that. And no, a DCC neighborhood doesn't qualify. Secondly, stating that the boundary study decision resulted in massive reduction of transportation costs couldn't be further from the truth!

If they ever implemented new boundaries it sure would reduce these costs but there will still be places on the map where 3 lines meet just like now.

It's amazing! You can even visit a place where four entire states are within a block of each other and 40-some where three states touch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

That's odd all the W feeders I've seen have <5% Hispanic or AA populations.

What do you consider a W? Ours is definitely way above that, but maybe we’re not a W? Different people seem to have different views.

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Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

That's odd all the W feeders I've seen have <5% Hispanic or AA populations.

I wasn't sure before, but now I know you're lying.

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I’m a MS teacher. When I was in MS, I got in a fight because a girl thought I had said some negative things about her and took a swing at me. I suppose you could say I defended myself, but really I beat the crap out of her. It was the stupidest fight ever.

[Anonymous]

Have a kid at Julius West. There are a lot of fights in school and on the bus. No consequences esp for the ones on the bus.

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Lots of fights at all the MSs and all the HSs. Happened before Covid and is happening with more frequency now.

All the reasons already mentioned (boys, girls, hormones, it's Tuesday, etc.), because their frontal lives are not fully developed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

You're either not at a W feeder or your anecdotal headcount is off since the county publishes the demographic data and they are typically mostly white and asian.

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Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

You're either not at a W feeder or your anecdotal headcount is off since the county publishes the demographic data and they are typically mostly white and asian.

More importantly <5% FARMS whereas moco is on average 35% mostly thanks to boundary gerrymandering.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

You're either not at a W feeder or your anecdotal headcount is off since the county publishes the demographic data and they are typically mostly white and asian.

More importantly <5% FARMS whereas moco is on average 35% mostly thanks to boundary gerrymandering.

Source? Because a lot of boundaries are much older than the most recent demographic changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, explain this to me? Are the high percentage of Asian parents in the W districts part of this gerrymandering conspiracy?

My kids are at what I think is considered a W feeder MS. Monday at open house I did a quick head count in classes just to get a sense of demographics. The classes I sat in were about a quarter Black and about a third Asian (including mixed race in both of those categories—lots of mixed race Asian kids with one white parent). Definitely some Latino kids too but those are harder to count just by glancing across the room. I’ll note that those numbers are higher than what is posted online as demographics for the school which made me wonder whether the demographics have changed a bit over the last few years and the online demographics are a little outdated, or whether my kids classes were atypical.

Open House is a self-selecting group, so it’s not representative of the actual demographics at the school. You have no idea which families didn’t or couldn’t attend the event.