Is this REALLY a thing amongst our teens

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason phones should never be allowed in classrooms. Should have phones allowed only with special permission by admin at parent request and they needed to be dropped off in the office daily. Suspension for kids that don’t listen.

My kid's private school has weeklong detention for students who have their phone out during school hrs. That would never fly at my public school. Students just wouldn't show up to detention.

You realize this is for mcps and there is a private school forum for you.

Yes I do. I also have experience in public school since I work in one. The only ways to change behavior are to offer incentives for desired behaviors and/or negative consequences for undesired behaviors. If students voluntarily keep their phones away during school, they should be offered rewards. If they don't, consequences need to occur. Public school systems seem to shy away from rule enforcement so that's why the behaviors continue.

DP

+1 million to all of this!

This has been an issue in MCPS since my kids were in ES. It is a problem and needs to be addressed.

I don't want my child rewarded for good behavior as they need to behave in school or there are consequences at home. Phones should be put away at school but mine has them for emergencies and to coordinate pick up. It will not be used as a reward either.

Current research suggests positive reinforcement works better than negative.

But you do you.

Personal experience shows that restorative justice is a joke and MCPS needs some balance with actual disciplinary measures to balance it out.

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason phones should never be allowed in classrooms. Should have phones allowed only with special permission by admin at parent request and they needed to be dropped off in the office daily. Suspension for kids that don’t listen.

My kid's private school has weeklong detention for students who have their phone out during school hrs. That would never fly at my public school. Students just wouldn't show up to detention.

You realize this is for mcps and there is a private school forum for you.

Yes I do. I also have experience in public school since I work in one. The only ways to change behavior are to offer incentives for desired behaviors and/or negative consequences for undesired behaviors. If students voluntarily keep their phones away during school, they should be offered rewards. If they don't, consequences need to occur. Public school systems seem to shy away from rule enforcement so that's why the behaviors continue.

DP

+1 million to all of this!

This has been an issue in MCPS since my kids were in ES. It is a problem and needs to be addressed.

I don't want my child rewarded for good behavior as they need to behave in school or there are consequences at home. Phones should be put away at school but mine has them for emergencies and to coordinate pick up. It will not be used as a reward either.

Current research suggests positive reinforcement works better than negative.

But you do you.

Personal experience shows that restorative justice is a joke and MCPS needs some balance with actual disciplinary measures to balance it out.

Yes but peer reviewed studies show it's the most effective means available to keep order and discipline so your personal experience is meaningless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Giving our kids phones was a mistake.

Except that because we don't have gun control so our kids are at risk of being victims of a school shooting. I'd like my child to be able to call me in that situation or any other where they were in danger.

I'm grateful I can communicate with my son on the very rare occasion when he needs me. I do not have my phone out of my site when he is in school. Ever. He knows I'm there for him. Luckily he's not some low life taking photos in the bathroom. If that was the case, I'd reconsider the idea that he was responsible enough for a phone.

Helicopter much? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason phones should never be allowed in classrooms. Should have phones allowed only with special permission by admin at parent request and they needed to be dropped off in the office daily. Suspension for kids that don’t listen.

My kid's private school has weeklong detention for students who have their phone out during school hrs. That would never fly at my public school. Students just wouldn't show up to detention.

You realize this is for mcps and there is a private school forum for you.

Yes I do. I also have experience in public school since I work in one. The only ways to change behavior are to offer incentives for desired behaviors and/or negative consequences for undesired behaviors. If students voluntarily keep their phones away during school, they should be offered rewards. If they don't, consequences need to occur. Public school systems seem to shy away from rule enforcement so that's why the behaviors continue.

DP

+1 million to all of this!

This has been an issue in MCPS since my kids were in ES. It is a problem and needs to be addressed.

I don't want my child rewarded for good behavior as they need to behave in school or there are consequences at home. Phones should be put away at school but mine has them for emergencies and to coordinate pick up. It will not be used as a reward either.

Current research suggests positive reinforcement works better than negative.

But you do you.

Personal experience shows that restorative justice is a joke and MCPS needs some balance with actual disciplinary measures to balance it out.

Yes but peer reviewed studies show it's the most effective means available to keep order and discipline so your personal experience is meaningless.

Yeah, some folks believe anecdotes, coincidences, etc., make science. They won't change their minds until something personal happens to them (cf. Covid).

[Anonymous]

This is one of the reasons my kids try not to go to the bathroom all day. The other reasons are people vaping in the bathrooms and just general disgusting smell of the bathrooms. At their MS, there is one female teacher that regularly checks the bathroom near her class, and so my daughters know that bathroom is a relatively "safe" one and use that if desperate. I think the teachers are officially discouraged from going into the kids' bathrooms, but this one teacher is really anti-vaping and willing to be "that" teacher. (Hurrah for her.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one of the reasons my kids try not to go to the bathroom all day. The other reasons are people vaping in the bathrooms and just general disgusting smell of the bathrooms. At their MS, there is one female teacher that regularly checks the bathroom near her class, and so my daughters know that bathroom is a relatively "safe" one and use that if desperate. I think the teachers are officially discouraged from going into the kids' bathrooms, but this one teacher is really anti-vaping and willing to be "that" teacher. (Hurrah for her.)

Same for my kids. They both try not to go into the bathroom ever. Yes, the kids are vaping in there and other sh&t also goes on.

Wish it was different, but MCPS kind of stinks right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of the reasons my kids try not to go to the bathroom all day. The other reasons are people vaping in the bathrooms and just general disgusting smell of the bathrooms. At their MS, there is one female teacher that regularly checks the bathroom near her class, and so my daughters know that bathroom is a relatively "safe" one and use that if desperate. I think the teachers are officially discouraged from going into the kids' bathrooms, but this one teacher is really anti-vaping and willing to be "that" teacher. (Hurrah for her.)

Same for my kids. They both try not to go into the bathroom ever. Yes, the kids are vaping in there and other sh&t also goes on.

Wish it was different, but MCPS kind of stinks right now.

Weird, we don't have these issues at our DCC school. Is this just HS?

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of the reasons my kids try not to go to the bathroom all day. The other reasons are people vaping in the bathrooms and just general disgusting smell of the bathrooms. At their MS, there is one female teacher that regularly checks the bathroom near her class, and so my daughters know that bathroom is a relatively "safe" one and use that if desperate. I think the teachers are officially discouraged from going into the kids' bathrooms, but this one teacher is really anti-vaping and willing to be "that" teacher. (Hurrah for her.)

Same for my kids. They both try not to go into the bathroom ever. Yes, the kids are vaping in there and other sh&t also goes on.

Wish it was different, but MCPS kind of stinks right now.

Weird, we don't have these issues at our DCC school. Is this just HS?

MS for us. We are at a non-W Middle School, FWIW.

Which MS was your child at? I have talked to parents at other MSs and they have similar complaints about bathrooms and vaping. Even our friends at a W school say the kids are vaping in the bathrooms, so I think it crosses SES levels.