Elementary school AAP overcrowded/to max limit?

[Anonymous]

There are 27, 26, and 24 kids in the AAP classes at my child's center school. There are two gen ed classes with 28 and 27 each so it seems pretty even. I was wondering if that just happened to work out or if the principal decided to place some kids in AAP to make the numbers work better. I had heard that principals were not allowed to principal place at a center, but are they allowed? It seemed strange to me that the one AAP class has 24 and one has 27 but I guess there is a lot of behind the scenes for why kids are put in certain classes.

[Anonymous]

I don’t feel sorry for large AAP classes. My kid is gen Ed, in a class of 30 this year, with special Ed kids. Total bs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 27, 26, and 24 kids in the AAP classes at my child's center school. There are two gen ed classes with 28 and 27 each so it seems pretty even. I was wondering if that just happened to work out or if the principal decided to place some kids in AAP to make the numbers work better. I had heard that principals were not allowed to principal place at a center, but are they allowed? It seemed strange to me that the one AAP class has 24 and one has 27 but I guess there is a lot of behind the scenes for why kids are put in certain classes.

The one with 24 might have all the kids with IEPs-more paperwork for the teacher so she got fewer students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t feel sorry for large AAP classes. My kid is gen Ed, in a class of 30 this year, with special Ed kids. Total bs.

I am sorry. No student should be in a class of more than 25, AAP or Gen Ed. I gave several IEPS and 504s in my AAP class this year with a large class as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t feel sorry for large AAP classes. My kid is gen Ed, in a class of 30 this year, with special Ed kids. Total bs.

I am sorry. No student should be in a class of more than 25, AAP or Gen Ed. I gave several IEPS and 504s in my AAP class this year with a large class as well.

They need to increase the student density of AAP to offset the increased costs. Just dealing with all the super demanding and privileged parents who gravitate to these programs is very difficult and expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t feel sorry for large AAP classes. My kid is gen Ed, in a class of 30 this year, with special Ed kids. Total bs.

I am sorry. No student should be in a class of more than 25, AAP or Gen Ed. I gave several IEPS and 504s in my AAP class this year with a large class as well.

DS's first grade class had 31 kids. Every year the number of kids has dropped, that is normal since he is in language immersion. He is in fifth grade now and down to 19 kids. Last year was his first year under 25 kids. I think it was 31 in first, 28 in second, 26 in third, 23 in 4th, and 19 in fifth. The other LI class has 22 kids, his class is the Advanced Math group so it is a bit smaller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t feel sorry for large AAP classes. My kid is gen Ed, in a class of 30 this year, with special Ed kids. Total bs.

I am sorry. No student should be in a class of more than 25, AAP or Gen Ed. I gave several IEPS and 504s in my AAP class this year with a large class as well.

They need to increase the student density of AAP to offset the increased costs. Just dealing with all the super demanding and privileged parents who gravitate to these programs is very difficult and expensive.

It has nothing to do with AAP costs. Some schools have 30 kids in Gen Ed or LI classes on a regular basis.

There are some Center schools where the ratios work out that the AAP classes are smaller and the Gen Ed classes are bigger. There are some Centers where the AAP classes are bigger and the Gen Ed classes are smaller. We see this posted on a regular basis. Class sizes are far more school dependent then type of class dependent.

I would say the only exception is Language Immersion Programs which seem to start packed, as in 30 kids, and then shrink as the years go by. The only kids who can join the program after first grade are native speakers so when kids drop the program or move, there is no one to replace them. I expect that DS's class size will have shrunk by half by 6th grade. He has had friends move and leave the program for AAP. A few kids have dropped out. Our schools Gen Ed classes are getting bigger because of kids moving in and kids who left the language program but those classes are still under or right at 20 kids in 5th grade.

The cut off for a new Teacher in ES is 31 kids. So if you have 31 kids you end up with 2 classes of 15 and 16, or you are supposed to. A class of 29 kids might not get a second Teacher.