Did the god of the bible kill people?

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Anonymous wrote:Most Biblical religions are not Biblical literalists. Very few are in fact, just the extreme fundamentalist sects.

That's what happens when society evolves to the point where your bronze age text seems ridiculous. Instead of moving on entirely, every thing becomes allegorical

You are wrong. That is not what evolved. The allegory, was allegory when written. The poetry was poetry when written. The letters were letters when written. The genealogies were genealogies when written. The histories was histories when written, and as all histories, told from the point of view of the authors with their own interpretations and twists.

Yes, there are outliier fundamatalist sects who take very odd and unsupportable views of the text as literal truth. When you attack all religions as if they agree with these fringe people, you are the one who comes across as bronze age ignorant.

And the laws? They seem pretty embarrassing now, but they were laws when they were written- are they still laws?

Depends on what you mean.

Is fifty shekels a fair rate for your daughter?

In that case the laws are no longer actually laws to you.

No. What's your point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most Biblical religions are not Biblical literalists. Very few are in fact, just the extreme fundamentalist sects.

That's what happens when society evolves to the point where your bronze age text seems ridiculous. Instead of moving on entirely, every thing becomes allegorical

You are wrong. That is not what evolved. The allegory, was allegory when written. The poetry was poetry when written. The letters were letters when written. The genealogies were genealogies when written. The histories was histories when written, and as all histories, told from the point of view of the authors with their own interpretations and twists.

Yes, there are outliier fundamatalist sects who take very odd and unsupportable views of the text as literal truth. When you attack all religions as if they agree with these fringe people, you are the one who comes across as bronze age ignorant.

DP. Great so everyone except the fundamentalists agree none of it is true? Did not know that. Will adjust accordingly and glad we agree it is all untrue.

You are being too cute by half. There are truths in histories, philosophies, letters, even in poetry, etc. etc. You are not going to be able to reduce the entire filed of theology into a one sentence disclaimer. But you seem disingenuous about this discussion, so not sure why I'm bothering. You can study this stuff without being 'religious.'

Tell me which is which and how you tell the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Biblical religions are not Biblical literalists. Very few are in fact, just the extreme fundamentalist sects.

That's what happens when society evolves to the point where your bronze age text seems ridiculous. Instead of moving on entirely, every thing becomes allegorical

You are wrong. That is not what evolved. The allegory, was allegory when written. The poetry was poetry when written. The letters were letters when written. The genealogies were genealogies when written. The histories was histories when written, and as all histories, told from the point of view of the authors with their own interpretations and twists.

Yes, there are outliier fundamatalist sects who take very odd and unsupportable views of the text as literal truth. When you attack all religions as if they agree with these fringe people, you are the one who comes across as bronze age ignorant.

DP. Great so everyone except the fundamentalists agree none of it is true? Did not know that. Will adjust accordingly and glad we agree it is all untrue.

You are being too cute by half. There are truths in histories, philosophies, letters, even in poetry, etc. etc. You are not going to be able to reduce the entire filed of theology into a one sentence disclaimer. But you seem disingenuous about this discussion, so not sure why I'm bothering. You can study this stuff without being 'religious.'

Tell me which is which and how you tell the difference.

I'd say some of the history in the Bible has been confirmed by archeology, but despite best efforts some of it, like the Hebrews time in Egypt and exodus therefrom, has no evidence to support it. As far as philosophies and poetry well how can you argure with that? It is what it is. Of course the miracles can never be proven, that's the beauty of it from the religious people's side -- either you believe or you don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God was loving to Adam and Eve. They disobeyed Him. He didn’t kill them.

But he petulantly turned away from them and cast humans from the "garden of eden" to suffer and die without experiencing his presence. Some might say it was an overreaction.

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

These deaths are just the ones he directly caused (Sometimes for no explainable reason other than they did something unpleasing to God). But then consider that this "loving" god also created cancer, genetic defects leading to death, and viruses that kill millions. On and on. This really is the "God problem" from my perspective. Why would our creator who is allegedly infallible do that?

[Anonymous]

I highly recommend Go Home Bible You’re Drunk
Podcast - by former Evangelicals who had to read Bible cover to cover as kids and were very serious about it… so serious that they came to the realization that it’s at best nonsensically funny and at worst dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus brought the message of a loving God. Before that it was violence and destruction.

You have not read revelations, then:

Revelation 20:9
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Granted, this is just the plan to kill them. but apparently it is coming.

The link also includes Ananias and Sapphira, a story I did not know, who are killed for lying about money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananias_and_Sapphira

Again, this is not viewed as literal to most sects. It is a symbolic teaching message written by John the Elder to the seven churches of Asia in Roman times.

+1. Revelation is largely political allegory, and it wasn’t written by Jesus anyway.

As is true of the entire bible.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus brought the message of a loving God. Before that it was violence and destruction.

You have not read revelations, then:

Revelation 20:9
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Granted, this is just the plan to kill them. but apparently it is coming.

The link also includes Ananias and Sapphira, a story I did not know, who are killed for lying about money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananias_and_Sapphira

Again, this is not viewed as literal to most sects. It is a symbolic teaching message written by John the Elder to the seven churches of Asia in Roman times.

How do you tell the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

what is “rational wiki?”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

what is “rational wiki?”

What does that matter? Are the facts wrong? Also if you clicked the link you could learn all you wanted about what that site is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

what is “rational wiki?”

What does that matter? Are the facts wrong? Also if you clicked the link you could learn all you wanted about what that site is.

It says he people run the site don’t believe in God?

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

what is “rational wiki?”

What does that matter? Are the facts wrong? Also if you clicked the link you could learn all you wanted about what that site is.

It says he people run the site don’t believe in God? [/quote

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

what is “rational wiki?”

What does that matter? Are the facts wrong? Also if you clicked the link you could learn all you wanted about what that site is.

ok? from the site, the site thinks God is a fictional character. So a fictional character “killed” other fictional characters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I highly recommend Go Home Bible You’re Drunk
Podcast - by former Evangelicals who had to read Bible cover to cover as kids and were very serious about it… so serious that they came to the realization that it’s at best nonsensically funny and at worst dangerous.

If posting anti-religion stuff on DCUM 24/7 isn’t enough for you, by all means check out this podcast and rational wiki

Some of you need to lose your obsession with religion. If you’re confident about your atheism, you wouldn’t devote hours each day to it. It’s like what they say about the opposite of love being indifference not hate.

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Anonymous wrote:From the great flood to the New Testament, so many examples. Some say it was their sins that killed them. I don't know exactly what that means... what do you think?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people

what is “rational wiki?”

What does that matter? Are the facts wrong? Also if you clicked the link you could learn all you wanted about what that site is.

It says he people run the site don’t believe in God?

Why does what they believe matter about the validity of their facts presented here? Are they inaccurate? If so please tell us where.