Elrich Wins

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Riemer voters: Don’t blame us. This wouldn’t have happened if we had Ranked Choice Voting.

Also Riemer Voters: Don’t blame us, we would have voted for Elrich anyway.

Can someone help to explain to me how RCV would have led to a different outcome?

Ranked choice voting would take the last place candidate and distribute their votes to the candidates ranked second on those ballots. So if you think a majority of Riemer voters would have Blair as their second choice he would have won once Riemer was eliminated.

It’s common for Blair supporters to argue Riemer voters are also anti-Elrich voters but there is no way to know— they could also be anti-rich businessman

What I’m trying to understand is how Riemer voters can claim that RCV is important when they also say Elrich was their second choice. Sounds like they are talking out of both sides of their mouths out of convenience to absolve blame for re-electing Elrich.

Seems like a disingenuous candidate has many disingenuous supporters. It’s an affinity group.

[Anonymous]

We’re headed into a recount, just like the last time this happened. But Elrich will be victorious. I’m glad. I didn’t like Blair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Riemer voters: Don’t blame us. This wouldn’t have happened if we had Ranked Choice Voting.

Also Riemer Voters: Don’t blame us, we would have voted for Elrich anyway.

Can someone help to explain to me how RCV would have led to a different outcome?

Ranked choice voting would take the last place candidate and distribute their votes to the candidates ranked second on those ballots. So if you think a majority of Riemer voters would have Blair as their second choice he would have won once Riemer was eliminated.

It’s common for Blair supporters to argue Riemer voters are also anti-Elrich voters but there is no way to know— they could also be anti-rich businessman

The problem with Riemer is that he spent a lot of time and money attacking Blair, too. There’s no way to know whether it was decisive, but there’s no question that it helped Elrich. Riemer’s misleading attacks on Elrich didn’t really land, but his misleading attacks on Blair seemed to catch on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thread about the county executive election should have an accurate headline. Congratulations Marc Elrich!

Source?

Elrich “declared victory.”

That’s a credible source?

Do you think people are lying?

AP said it’s too close to call.

[Anonymous]

That count took so long and there will be a recount that I don’t even care anymore. Reimer screwed up the race and I hope he gets voted out next round.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thread about the county executive election should have an accurate headline. Congratulations Marc Elrich!

Source?

Elrich “declared victory.”

That’s a credible source?

Do you think people are lying?

Who is people? Marc Elrich? Sure, I think he’d call it prematurely out of his own self-interest. I still haven’t seen an independent source call it. This is what the AP said ~12 hours ago (too close to call): https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/06/montgomery-county-executive-winner/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Phew, I'm relieved. I didn't vote for him but started getting anxious when it looked like he might lose. I'm glad he won.

Boo

serious question: the MoCo 'track my ballot' page on the board of elections says my ballot was received but is not updated beyond that (I voted by mail, not provisional...so it should have been counted). Does this mean they actually didn't county my vote or does it mean the system was not updated? (I voted by mail, put it in a drop box a few days before the election)

My DH thinks that the MIB aren't "officially" counted until they are transferred to the state. Ours are listed as "received". We got notifications on 7/21 that they were "received". (I put this info in another thread.) So I think the "received" status means they went through the Canvassing process. Now the "official" step comes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Riemer voters: Don’t blame us. This wouldn’t have happened if we had Ranked Choice Voting.

Also Riemer Voters: Don’t blame us, we would have voted for Elrich anyway.

Can someone help to explain to me how RCV would have led to a different outcome?

Ranked Choice Voting is not going to solve this problem. People are way too stupid to understand what it means and how to fill out a ballot. I worked in surveys at my previous job. You'd be shocked at the number of people who can't handle "Rank your top 5" (in a list of 15). They'll number everything 1-5. Or they put check marks by 5 items, not #s. I don't know if RCV is even allowed within Maryland (or any political elections, for that matter).

Having a run-off when the margin is something like 0.5% or less and there are more than 2 candidates running in the primary would solve the problem. Let the top 2 duke it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That count took so long and there will be a recount that I don’t even care anymore. Reimer screwed up the race and I hope he gets voted out next round.

Riemer is term-limited. This is his last year on the council.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Riemer voters: Don’t blame us. This wouldn’t have happened if we had Ranked Choice Voting.

Also Riemer Voters: Don’t blame us, we would have voted for Elrich anyway.

Can someone help to explain to me how RCV would have led to a different outcome?

Ranked choice voting would take the last place candidate and distribute their votes to the candidates ranked second on those ballots. So if you think a majority of Riemer voters would have Blair as their second choice he would have won once Riemer was eliminated.

It’s common for Blair supporters to argue Riemer voters are also anti-Elrich voters but there is no way to know— they could also be anti-rich businessman

What I’m trying to understand is how Riemer voters can claim that RCV is important when they also say Elrich was their second choice. Sounds like they are talking out of both sides of their mouths out of convenience to absolve blame for re-electing Elrich.

Seems like a disingenuous candidate has many disingenuous supporters. It’s an affinity group.

You sound nuts. You do realize that there are thousands upon thousands of Riemer voters. There is no set of beliefs you must subscribe to or spokesperson who could articulate those beliefs. It is almost certain that some Riemer voters would have Elrich as their second choice and some have Blair. Likewise it almost certain that some would support RCV and some wouldn’t. But that’s about all you can say about them as a group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That count took so long and there will be a recount that I don’t even care anymore. Reimer screwed up the race and I hope he gets voted out next round.

Riemer is term-limited. This is his last year on the council.

Good.

[Anonymous]

I don’t care I don’t care

Dems on every single ballot everywhere

Given CPAC anyone standing with Republicans in any race you are a Nazi full stop

Republicans have no polices but for 5hem to grift your monies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That count took so long and there will be a recount that I don’t even care anymore. Reimer screwed up the race and I hope he gets voted out next round.

Riemer is term-limited. This is his last year on the council.

He’s headed to a sweet gig funded by his builder friends…I bet he tries to ‘sell’ the county to companies looking to relocate to the DC area. Comical. At least out of public service. Moco voters finally saw through him.

[Anonymous]

It’s common for Blair supporters to argue Riemer voters are also anti-Elrich voters but there is no way to know— they could also be anti-rich businessman
What I’m trying to understand is how Riemer voters can claim that RCV is important when they also say Elrich was their second choice. Sounds like they are talking out of both sides of their mouths out of convenience to absolve blame for re-electing Elrich.

Seems like a disingenuous candidate has many disingenuous supporters. It’s an affinity group.


You sound nuts. You do realize that there are thousands upon thousands of Riemer voters. There is no set of beliefs you must subscribe to or spokesperson who could articulate those beliefs. It is almost certain that some Riemer voters would have Elrich as their second choice and some have Blair. Likewise it almost certain that some would support RCV and some wouldn’t. But that’s about all you can say about them as a group.

Many Riemer supporters despise Elrich because of his opposition to upzoning/Thrive 2050. Blair is more like a blank slate on those issues - his statements seemed inconsistent. There is no way that the "Not Marc Elrich" crowd would have had Elrich as their second choice, and they seemed to be supporting Reimer. Am I overestimating how many of them there are?

[Anonymous]

Many Riemer supporters despise Elrich because of his opposition to upzoning/Thrive 2050. Blair is more like a blank slate on those issues - his statements seemed inconsistent. There is no way that the "Not Marc Elrich" crowd would have had Elrich as their second choice, and they seemed to be supporting Reimer. Am I overestimating how many of them there are?