Who's Afraid of Virginia Monkeypox

[Anonymous]

I may regret posting logic on a clearly troll-y thread, but in case anyone reading is actually interesting:

https://thispodcastwillkillyou.com/2022/07/12/ep-100-monkeypox-here-we-go-again/

Tl;dl:

Reasons people care and are tracking it:
- It's related to smallpox and smallpox is scary AF (but fortunately not too closely related to smallpox)

- It's changing the pattern of spread to more easily infect humans and is circulating in many new geographic regions where it had previously not been seen -- reasonably high chance of becoming endemic in those regions since it's potential animal hosts seem plentiful

- Having another nasty disease circulating isn't uncommon but it's exactly great and without access to good medical care, monkeypox can get nasty especially for the immunocompromised


Personally, I'm not overly concerned because (a) the public health community seems to be on top of it (b) my immediate circle is generally healthy and has access to decent medical care and (c) there's a vaccine and treatment and decades of research already done here. But I think it's reasonable for it to be considered news.

[Anonymous]

I have a toddler in day care who is constantly picking up viruses, so yeah, I'm worried.

[Anonymous]

The size of those blisters are nasty. Not a chance it resolves without scars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep people fearful, so you can control them.

This is the playbook of the GOP. Health organizations are trying to educate you and stop spread of illness through information.

Clearly you are unable to properly process information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

We need a lockdown. Virtual schooling until the case count is zero. Think of the children!

That would be typical. First kids had to protect the elderly from Covid and now protect gay men.

Ugh, right? Not even far from the realm of possibility. I think parents are so traumatized from how our kids were thrown under the bus during Covid. Our kids bore way too much of the burden and our public health officials basically ignored the needs of families and kids/teens.

OMG save it for your therapist. Give it a rest. The "weak tea" poster is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

We need a lockdown. Virtual schooling until the case count is zero. Think of the children!

This is such weak tea. It doesn't even work as satire anymore.

I give it two weeks and you will start hearing politicians asking for it.

[Anonymous]

Droplets? So, like gyms and spas? what about airport gate seating, stuff like that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

We need a lockdown. Virtual schooling until the case count is zero. Think of the children!

That would be typical. First kids had to protect the elderly from Covid and now protect gay men.

Ugh, right? Not even far from the realm of possibility. I think parents are so traumatized from how our kids were thrown under the bus during Covid. Our kids bore way too much of the burden and our public health officials basically ignored the needs of families and kids/teens.

OMG save it for your therapist. Give it a rest. The "weak tea" poster is correct.

You probably don’t like kids but there is no doubt they have had to put their life on hold while we protected vulnerable adults. Especially in this area with the school closures. You can deny it but it’s true. Most kids rolled with the punches and were fine but not all. And we don’t need to put a fear in them that they are now going to catch monkey pox after they had a fear of catching Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

We need a lockdown. Virtual schooling until the case count is zero. Think of the children!

This is such weak tea. It doesn't even work as satire anymore.

I give it two weeks and you will start hearing politicians asking for it.

Only if they seek to lose re-election. It’d just be easier for them to resign on their own, though.

[Anonymous]

I work in a spa. Not happy about this. We do require masks during many services but you’d be surprised at what weird skin conditions folks come in with and still expect care. One lady had been volunteering at the shelter and clearly had ringworm which i did not see until halfway through her service- that one sheds too. I have people coming in with fevers or active flu, they think a spa day will make them feel better. Monkey pox is another gross layer to scan for. I’m not afraid of it, but I’d rather not contract for employment reasons.

[Anonymous]

I was just thinking about all of the ways that you could contract it by exposing your skin. I have to take an airplane and I’m thinking about wearing long pants and a long sleeve shirt so none of my body touches the airplane seat. We were also going to go to the movies and that seems like a place you might get it. I was thinking about how people and places like India and Pakistan wear long sleeved garments but made out of very cool linen fabrics. Wondering if that will become a trend in the United States

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

In third world countries where there is sub-par medical care and blisters get infected and there are no antibiotics? Or here?

Here, it is unlikely to kill a healthy person, but can still hospitalize people. It may be much worse in the young or immunocompromised. It is still excrutiatingly painful and leaves scars and can affect your eyes. It also takes weeks to go through all the stages of pox blisters and healing and you are contagious until all the blisters fully heal (2-4 weeks). If you didn’t like staying in quarantine 10 days for COVID, you are going to hate monkeypox.

Monkeypox is literally an economic threat to the country if it circulates broadly. We can not keep the trains and supply chains moving because hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick for 5 days and can’t work for 10 due to quarantine. Because the January 2022 wave was such a problem in this respect, the USG changed COVID guidance to 5 days quarantine and 5 days mask. Do you think people will be able to go back to work when at 2 weeks they still have visible, infectious pox blisters? If it circulated more widely in young children (and we have had a few cases of this already), it also has the potential to collapse the child care system, which will drive even more women out of the workforce. Are you really going to send your kid to daycare where they could catch monkeypox and be very painfully sick for 2-4 weeks and recover with scarring?

The public health system is not on top of this, and the broader straight community is unaware f the failures and thinks everything is fine. Testing is seriously limited. Vaccines are very limited and getting an appointment is extremely difficult. Diagnosis has been very slow and contact tracing is extremely slow as well. Access to treatment takes a ton of paperwork and advocacy. All these are indicators that monkeypox could easily and irreversibly slip out of control. The USG has publicly committed to eradication, but massive action needs to follow and hasn’t yet.

[Anonymous]

Because of the rate of increase within a few months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

In third world countries where there is sub-par medical care and blisters get infected and there are no antibiotics? Or here?

Here, it is unlikely to kill a healthy person, but can still hospitalize people. It may be much worse in the young or immunocompromised. It is still excrutiatingly painful and leaves scars and can affect your eyes. It also takes weeks to go through all the stages of pox blisters and healing and you are contagious until all the blisters fully heal (2-4 weeks). If you didn’t like staying in quarantine 10 days for COVID, you are going to hate monkeypox.

Monkeypox is literally an economic threat to the country if it circulates broadly. We can not keep the trains and supply chains moving because hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick for 5 days and can’t work for 10 due to quarantine. Because the January 2022 wave was such a problem in this respect, the USG changed COVID guidance to 5 days quarantine and 5 days mask. Do you think people will be able to go back to work when at 2 weeks they still have visible, infectious pox blisters? If it circulated more widely in young children (and we have had a few cases of this already), it also has the potential to collapse the child care system, which will drive even more women out of the workforce. Are you really going to send your kid to daycare where they could catch monkeypox and be very painfully sick for 2-4 weeks and recover with scarring?

The public health system is not on top of this, and the broader straight community is unaware f the failures and thinks everything is fine. Testing is seriously limited. Vaccines are very limited and getting an appointment is extremely difficult. Diagnosis has been very slow and contact tracing is extremely slow as well. Access to treatment takes a ton of paperwork and advocacy. All these are indicators that monkeypox could easily and irreversibly slip out of control. The USG has publicly committed to eradication, but massive action needs to follow and hasn’t yet.

Thank you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monkeypox is not "constantly circling the globe."

The concern is that the rate at which cases are showing up--that are clearly not connected to one another--indicates community spread, which is not something that has been seen before with this virus.

That is why public health officials are trying to use ring vaccination to prevent additional disease in contacts of cases.

Now I have explained it, but you will still have complaints. Carry on.

No reason to be so snippy, missy -- especially since you didn't even get the point. I didn't say monkeypox was constantly circling the globe -- I said "shrug, aren't there always illnesses circling the globe?" What's the big deal with monkeypox circling the globe? So what? Seems harmless enough. Just gross. is circling the globe enough of a reason to call it a public health emergency?

Even community spread -- so what? Is getting inconvenient blisters through community spread really an emergency?

It permanently scars, blinds, and sometimes kills. You sound like an idiot pursuing this stance that mpx is no big deal.

We need a lockdown. Virtual schooling until the case count is zero. Think of the children!

That would be typical. First kids had to protect the elderly from Covid and now protect gay men.

Ugh, right? Not even far from the realm of possibility. I think parents are so traumatized from how our kids were thrown under the bus during Covid. Our kids bore way too much of the burden and our public health officials basically ignored the needs of families and kids/teens.

OMG save it for your therapist. Give it a rest. The "weak tea" poster is correct.

You probably don’t like kids but there is no doubt they have had to put their life on hold while we protected vulnerable adults. Especially in this area with the school closures. You can deny it but it’s true. Most kids rolled with the punches and were fine but not all. And we don’t need to put a fear in them that they are now going to catch monkey pox after they had a fear of catching Covid.

Yes, they did. They are part of society. The weak tea part is that some make it sound like it was an outrageous and unnecessary sacrifice on their part. It was a pandemic. They did what they had to do, just like the rest of us. No one WANTED to do any of that.