Would removing busses to AAP Centers fix the bus problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no. There are two bus runs for elementary schools. Do you understand how gigantic the school district is? Your neighbor is not the cause of the bus problems. The cause is"economies of scale", IOW, not enough buses.

You don't sound very smart. OP's neighbor is not the only child in this situation. Yes, there are early and late start ES's, but there are also separate busses that will pick up AAP kids from their neighborhoods. The better solution would be for all AAP Centers to have late starts so that kids could get bussed to their home school and ALL the Center kids could hop on a second bus to the Center from their home school.This would free up SO MANY busses.

Isn't this how the TJ busses work?

There are designated elementary schools that the TJ busses pick up at-you pick the closest one to home or you can pick the closest bus depot to your place of employment.

They should do that for AAP Centers. Not sure why they are treated differently.

[Anonymous]

So if FCPS got rid of AAP center schools, the same number of students would still need a bus ride. The same number of elementary students, the same number of middle school students, and the same number of high school students.

The solution to the bus problem is to buy a lot more buses and hire a lot more drivers. Not hating on 8 year olds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about we just remove buses altogether after grade 2 and encourage kids to bike, walk, or use the public transit system to get to school? Just like they do in many other parts of the country. Having this massive separate bus system for schools is wasteful. Can even subsidize public bus fare at much lower cost (and helps strengthen the public transit system simultaneously).

I went to Oakton High School, which was about 11 miles from my house. Our middle school was about three miles from the house, and our elementary school was approximately five miles away. There was absolutely no safe way to walk or bike to any of those schools. There was also extremely limited public transportation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if FCPS got rid of AAP center schools, the same number of students would still need a bus ride. The same number of elementary students, the same number of middle school students, and the same number of high school students.

The solution to the bus problem is to buy a lot more buses and hire a lot more drivers. Not hating on 8 year olds.

Our base school is an AAP center. We are zoned for the school but we are on the edge of the boundary for the school. My kid rides the same bus as the kids from the neighboring school who goes to our school AAP center.

My kid’s bus is often a double back bus. The school that my kid’s bus picks up from is an overcrowded school and often has bus issues. If the bus to the AAP center was eliminated, I don’t think it would solve the other school’s bus problem.

Our school is an aap center so I wouldn’t care if the buses got eliminated. It would probably hurt the kids who need it the most.

[Anonymous]

well this is a new angle to attack AAP.

Geez. Why shouldn't kids have access to the center school? Just advocate for them to add buses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh, no. There are two bus runs for elementary schools. Do you understand how gigantic the school district is? Your neighbor is not the cause of the bus problems. The cause is"economies of scale", IOW, not enough buses.

You don't sound very smart. OP's neighbor is not the only child in this situation. Yes, there are early and late start ES's, but there are also separate busses that will pick up AAP kids from their neighborhoods. The better solution would be for all AAP Centers to have late starts so that kids could get bussed to their home school and ALL the Center kids could hop on a second bus to the Center from their home school.This would free up SO MANY busses.

Isn't this how the TJ busses work?

There are designated elementary schools that the TJ busses pick up at-you pick the closest one to home or you can pick the closest bus depot to your place of employment.

They should do that for AAP Centers. Not sure why they are treated differently.

Agreed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:well this is a new angle to attack AAP.

Geez. Why shouldn't kids have access to the center school? Just advocate for them to add buses.

And who is going to drive those busses? If you haven't heard, there is a bus driver shortage across the nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not going to happen, but enjoy your petty little fantasy.

How is it petty to want equity? Some kids get to choose their school. Others do not. How is this equitable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, stick it to the kids who are in Level IV, huh?

This thread smells like it was started by people whose kids were declared ineligible for Level IV and harbor a grudge.

Clearly you didn't bother reading all the posts. It's been said that LLIV should be offered at all schools to that there is no need for centers - and separate busing - at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an AAP teacher at a Local Level 4 and totally agree that transportation should not be given to a center if the school offers Local Level 4. Every single school that goes into our center has a Local Level 4. It is totally unnecessary to waste bus runs.

^^THIS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So kids wouldn’t be able to attend AAP centers unless their parents have the resources to drive them there?

That’s klassy.

Isn’t that what language immersion students do?

Yep. Somehow, they manage just fine.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh, no. There are two bus runs for elementary schools. Do you understand how gigantic the school district is? Your neighbor is not the cause of the bus problems. The cause is"economies of scale", IOW, not enough buses.

You don't sound very smart. OP's neighbor is not the only child in this situation. Yes, there are early and late start ES's, but there are also separate busses that will pick up AAP kids from their neighborhoods. The better solution would be for all AAP Centers to have late starts so that kids could get bussed to their home school and ALL the Center kids could hop on a second bus to the Center from their home school.This would free up SO MANY busses.

Isn't this how the TJ busses work?

There are designated elementary schools that the TJ busses pick up at-you pick the closest one to home or you can pick the closest bus depot to your place of employment.

They should do that for AAP Centers. Not sure why they are treated differently.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if FCPS got rid of AAP center schools, the same number of students would still need a bus ride. The same number of elementary students, the same number of middle school students, and the same number of high school students.

The solution to the bus problem is to buy a lot more buses and hire a lot more drivers. Not hating on 8 year olds.

This makes zero sense. If FCPS got rid of AAP centers, then the kids who were previously given their own separate buses to the center would simply be absorbed onto the regular (base school) runs. There would finally be *enough* buses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:well this is a new angle to attack AAP.

Geez. Why shouldn't kids have access to the center school? Just advocate for them to add buses.

A "new angle"? This has been suggested for years and years. FCPS loves to tout "equity," but the equitable thing to do would be to simply provide LLIV in ALL schools and keep ALL kids in their base school. Why should some parents get to choose which school their kids attend, but others do not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not going to happen, but enjoy your petty little fantasy.

How is it petty to want equity? Some kids get to choose their school. Others do not. How is this equitable?

Do you worry about equity when a kid needs a special classroom because of an emotional disorder or learning issue? I mean, they get transportation to a different school for specialized services.

You probably support that because a kid needs special support.

But kids who are ahead and benefit from a faster space or more in depth work should be denied that opportunity because your kid doesn’t need those services and it makes you feel lesser about your kid then the kid who needs help and support to access grade level material.