Prez of Hillsdale College: "...education destroys generations of people. It's devastating."

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Rich for any official from Hillsdale calling people from other schools "dumb"
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Anonymous wrote:Denying the role of Judeo-Christian religious values in the Enlightenment and the formation of Western Civilization is the same as some redneck from Texas denying evolution or believing the Earth is flat. You need to teach a lot of moral philosophy, reason, and critical thinking if you want to leave religion behind and maintain a functioning society at our scale.
The pendulum swung too far one way and it now it will swing back (rinse and repeat). That's life.


Those slides are not about the Enlightenment or Western Civilization. Those slides do not acknowledge that the 1st Amendment explicitly bans the establishment of a religion by the federal government and states, nor does it discuss the very real anti-religion sentiment of many of the Founding Fathers.


How are Rousseau and Locke and social contract theory not about the Enlightenment?

Nietzsche predicted how all of this ends and yet it will still come as a surprise to the majority of people.
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Anonymous wrote:Rich for any official from Hillsdale calling people from other schools "dumb"


+1 Hillsdale "College" = embarrassing joke.
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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I sort of agree with this assessment. I remember hanging with some college students studying to be teachers. They definitely gave off dumbest of the low hanging fruit. This impression was only confirmed when my DC was at the elementary school level. Beyond the elementary school level - the improvement was marked.

I'm old enough my schoolteachers were the cream of the crop, as education was one of the few professions available to women. I can clearly see the difference.

Sorry to say it.


Yeah, and all those women who would have been teachers in a previous generation are now flourishing in high powered professions. Of course, you can see the difference. That's called progress.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I sort of agree with this assessment. I remember hanging with some college students studying to be teachers. They definitely gave off dumbest of the low hanging fruit. This impression was only confirmed when my DC was at the elementary school level. Beyond the elementary school level - the improvement was marked.

I'm old enough my schoolteachers were the cream of the crop, as education was one of the few professions available to women. I can clearly see the difference.

Sorry to say it.


Pretty sad to see people paint all teachers with such a broad brush. I have multiple friends who went to Ivy League and T20 undergrad who are teachers in public and charter schools. They do amazing work. Our son’s previous baby sitter is an incredible young woman who just became a teacher (she went St Mary’s College MD) and is sooooo good with teaching young kids.

To see this kind of radical ugliness come from America’s elites is profoundly disturbing. “Anyone can do it…” ugh




It’s also internalized misogyny- as the vast majority of teachers are women, it’s very easy to dismiss them and the profession as stupid and worthless. After all, if it was important, men would do it.
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I'm a public school elementary teacher. I graduated at the top of my class in a respected but not Ivy college. My colleagues and I spend a lot of time discussing the best ways to educate our students. We are not unintelligent and we are very invested in the process of education. We will not be pretending that slavery didn't happen the way it happened. We teach the truth - the good and the bad - so that we can create good citizens. We encourage critical thinking. We accept that our students come from different backgrounds and we allow for personal opinions, which usually come from their families, because differing opinions are needed in a healthy society. It's so lazy to make assumptions about teaching and teachers in general, and the lovely head of Hillsdale is just sharing the Kool-Aid he drank. He is incredibly ignorant and too lazy to learn the truth. He is likely threatened by reality.
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There is nothing lazy about hillsdale. It’s rigorous whether or not you like their focus
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Anonymous wrote:Rich for any official from Hillsdale calling people from other schools "dumb"


+1 Hillsdale "College" = embarrassing joke.


I’ve been through the college search for the last seven years with my three children and I have never heard of Hillsdale. How do they rank on the US News list?
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All the Hillsdale haters think that African American studies abs Latinx studies are rigorous programs.
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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing lazy about hillsdale. It’s rigorous whether or not you like their focus


Hillsdale is a sh*tshow. President was having an affair with daughter in law. Bad results.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Roche_III

So much for conservative values.
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Anonymous wrote:Denying the role of Judeo-Christian religious values in the Enlightenment and the formation of Western Civilization is the same as some redneck from Texas denying evolution or believing the Earth is flat. You need to teach a lot of moral philosophy, reason, and critical thinking [strike]if you want to leave religion behind and[/strike] maintain a functioning society at our scale.


Regardless of whether religion is present or not, you need to teach a lot of moral philosophy, reason, and critical thinking if you want a functioning society.


Correct. And what we have now is indoctrination.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillsdale is well respected and I think their focus on classical education will benefit a lot of kids.

I don’t get the hate- you don’t have to use these charters if you disagree with the philosophy


There is no room for disagreement. THAT'S the real problem.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I sort of agree with this assessment. I remember hanging with some college students studying to be teachers. They definitely gave off dumbest of the low hanging fruit. This impression was only confirmed when my DC was at the elementary school level. Beyond the elementary school level - the improvement was marked.

I'm old enough my schoolteachers were the cream of the crop, as education was one of the few professions available to women. I can clearly see the difference.

Sorry to say it.


Yeah, and all those women who would have been teachers in a previous generation are now flourishing in high powered professions. Of course, you can see the difference. That's called progress.


+1

If you want better teachers, you need to pay them more competitively.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rich for any official from Hillsdale calling people from other schools "dumb"


+1 Hillsdale "College" = embarrassing joke.


I’ve been through the college search for the last seven years with my three children and I have never heard of Hillsdale. How do they rank on the US News list?


Ranked #46 in liberal arts colleges

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/hillsdale-college-2272
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rich for any official from Hillsdale calling people from other schools "dumb"


+1 Hillsdale "College" = embarrassing joke.


I’ve been through the college search for the last seven years with my three children and I have never heard of Hillsdale. How do they rank on the US News list?


Ranked #46 in liberal arts colleges

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/hillsdale-college-2272


Pretty far from top of the pack
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