Good article on the founding and flaws of UVA

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious about how the PP thinks UVA is still Jefferson’s school. I don’t feel that way at all. There are a lot of UVA parents and alumni here.

Many, many people still feel that way.

No, no they don't...It's looked at as an outstanding public institution steeped in history. Of course TJ is a prominent figure, he founded the frigging place but to try to equate the student body with early 19th century mentality is ignorant and stupid. The article outlines a 350 page book and highlights the flaws of TJ both with slavery and his absolute disdain for theology to be taught in schools (which was the norm of the day). One would think that that many on this site that bash institutions with foundations based in theology would find that refreshing.

My DD attends UVA and will be the first person to tell you she hates Jefferson... for all the reasons stated in the article. She is not alone, and they are still attending what has become a great school. There is no Jefferson worship anymore. The school is very much working to downplay the TJ aspect of the school and actively educating on both his flaws and the positives that he did.

Hate is a strong word especially for someone that attends a university founded by those they "hate" and a founding father of this nation that they live in. I won't try to ascertain why your daughter has hate for someone that has been dead for 200 years other than a lack of tolerance and perspective of history but that's for her to figure out. There never was Jefferson "worship" simply an acknowledgement that at the end of his life he founded a secular public university (which was against the norms of the times) in his state that he loved so dearly. TJ will never be "downplayed" at UVA as you so inarticulately stated...pointing out that the founder had flaws is not downplaying, it is providing historical accuracy and truth to the man. If anything TJ will continue to be a prominent figure on campus and those that choose to "hate" him will be able to vocally due so due to his vision for this country and the rights stated in the Constitution.

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What year did you tour monticello? They go deep into his flaws now.

I think it was 2013. Glad to hear they’ve revised it.

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Regarding the tour of Monticello

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious about how the PP thinks UVA is still Jefferson’s school. I don’t feel that way at all. There are a lot of UVA parents and alumni here.

Many, many people still feel that way.

No, no they don't...It's looked at as an outstanding public institution steeped in history. Of course TJ is a prominent figure, he founded the frigging place but to try to equate the student body with early 19th century mentality is ignorant and stupid. The article outlines a 350 page book and highlights the flaws of TJ both with slavery and his absolute disdain for theology to be taught in schools (which was the norm of the day). One would think that that many on this site that bash institutions with foundations based in theology would find that refreshing.

My DD attends UVA and will be the first person to tell you she hates Jefferson... for all the reasons stated in the article. She is not alone, and they are still attending what has become a great school. There is no Jefferson worship anymore. The school is very much working to downplay the TJ aspect of the school and actively educating on both his flaws and the positives that he did.

Hate is a strong word especially for someone that attends a university founded by those they "hate" and a founding father of this nation that they live in. I won't try to ascertain why your daughter has hate for someone that has been dead for 200 years other than a lack of tolerance and perspective of history but that's for her to figure out. There never was Jefferson "worship" simply an acknowledgement that at the end of his life he founded a secular public university (which was against the norms of the times) in his state that he loved so dearly. TJ will never be "downplayed" at UVA as you so inarticulately stated...pointing out that the founder had flaws is not downplaying, it is providing historical accuracy and truth to the man. If anything TJ will continue to be a prominent figure on campus and those that choose to "hate" him will be able to vocally due so due to his vision for this country and the rights stated in the Constitution.

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I take it you're a grad, though you mention campus instead if grounds so if so, then a and representation. Sorry to have offended your TJ love. If you're not a grad, why do you care so much? Do you actually KNOW what it's like at UVA today? Do you have a kid there, are you a member of the faculty, a student? Curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding the tour of Monticello

haha what a baby! I was just at Monticello this spring and did not hear anything negative about Jefferson from any guide, just many (if not all) of the exhibits have more historical context now.

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There's a running competition on DCUM as to which camp can generate the most negative threads and posts:

Exhibit A: UVA haters

Exhibit B: Fairfax County Public School AAP haters

It's quite entertaining.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a running competition on DCUM as to which camp can generate the most negative threads and posts:

Exhibit A: UVA haters

Exhibit B: Fairfax County Public School AAP haters

It's quite entertaining.

Except the UVA haters are those taxpayers whose kids or loved ones didn't get in or, like my kid, weren't even a contender so never applied. In Fairfax County AAP you are stuck with the system imposed upon you.