When people say "Educated"

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a proxy for social class. We don't really talk about class very well in the U.S. So a dating profile can't really demand "upper middle class or upper class." Wealth is related but not quite the same thing. You can be blue collar and rich. You can be upper class but not have any real money yourself - as a graduate student, for example.

You can maybe talk about "earning potential," but it's entirely possible that the person cares more about social class than earning potential. They might prefer a philosopher to a plumber for whatever reason.

Well said. DH and I both have masters degrees, and I wouldn't have considered someone who didn't have at least a college degree back when I was young and single. If I were every to become single again, I don't think I'd care as long as the guy was wealthy. I'll probably be blasted for having wealth expectations, but hey it's true.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they mean a college education? or beyond?

Depends on your circle. It may mean people with grad/professional degree in circles where an undergrad degree is a given, nothing special.

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I know people with Ivy graduate degrees who are just dumb. They can regurgitate others knowledge or have a highly specialized technical skill. Outside of that they are dumb.

It’s arbitrary filter.

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College educated but zero common sense.

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For me, it’s a combination of college education, cultural knowledge and social. I know plenty of ppl with a master’s or are completely socially inept, or overall very narrow minded. And vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:College educated but zero common sense.

Thank you! I said the same thing a few pages back and was slammed. Truth hurts… Go to college and beyond, super smart, but drive down the road and their car is smoking, yet they keep driving. 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous wrote:Book smarts but no common sense. 🤦‍♂️

Tell me you’re low class without telling me you’re low class.

BWAHHHAAAA!
Very true!

Tell me you have no common sense without telling me you have no common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most people consider it to mean higher education, but to me that’s “academic”.

My H is the most educated person I’ve ever met and he got an associate’s later in life, so not educated in most people’s minds. But he has a huge thirst for learning, listens to audiobooks and podcasts all day long, has self taught himself multiple skills, and rates highly in all the different types of intelligence (logical, emotional, creative, etc). We win at trivia night every time we play, too, ha.

I also think educated is different than intelligent, and that there’s different types of intelligence. My best friend is uneducated and often considered quite stupid - she dropped out of high school and often doesn’t understand things that are common knowledge. But she’s extremely socially intelligent, I’ve watched her go to just the playground with our kids and she becomes everybody’s best friend within minutes. She’s also insanely good at connecting people, she remembers everyone she meets and all their details, so if she meets someone who just had a baby but is struggling financially, she’ll remember the random person she met a month ago who was looking to get rid of their baby stuff and hook the two of them up.

Meanwhile I have the highest and most prestigious degree of all of them and I feel like a total idiot when I’m with them, ha. School was easy for me, real life, not so much.

I'm willing to your bet your friend is highly intelligent and not just socially. Many highly intelligent people struggle in school if the have LDs especially undiagnosed LDs this was especially true in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, no, you wish they gave PhD to anyone but "They" don't. Sorry.

I mean, they do. The top schools hopefully don’t, but pretty much anyone with a bachelors could get a phd if “they” really wanted. I’m impressed by an MBA from Harvard or a law degree from Stanford. Wish the system wasn’t so broken, but here we are…

You shouldn't be impressed with them a from Harvard or a law degree from Stanford.

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I’ve never thought of this. But my instinct is JD, MD, PhD.

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Mostly it means they support the Current Thing.

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Just a bachelors. A PhD is actually over educated in a lot of instances outside of academia or research.

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Anonymous wrote:If you parrot the latest dogma of the progressive hivemind, you'll be considered "educated" no matter where you went to school.

If you question the latest dogma of the progressive hivemind, you'll be considered "ignorant" no matter where you went to school.

Buddy, people aren't calling you ignorant because you question the dogma.

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They'll give a Ph.D. to pretty much anyone now. Nobody bats an eye. It's not that special anymore.

Just looking at people on dating apps who claim to have PhDs, I have to agree.

PP, you need some math help. This is not how you define a data set.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, no, you wish they gave PhD to anyone but "They" don't. Sorry.

Oh yes they do. The standards for research work are lower (including language requirements - and don't get me started on the downfall of the Classics departments across the country) and the main value of have these poor PhD candidates is some free labor.

DP. I don’t see any slide at the top research universities. If anything, our requirements have gotten more stringent and we have fewer slots. You have to do original research to get a PhD, regardless of the field. In the social sciences or sciences your research would probably result in 1-3 top field journal articles. In the humanities, it would have to be the draft form of a book manuscript.

There are a lot of PhD's that aren't from top research universities. Even UMGC offers PhD's.