How to join a study of people who've never gotten Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of people who haven’t had Covid. Why are you shocked that her vaccines worked?

in our friend circle i would say 15-20% have had covid

I'm a pp who has not had it, I'm vaccinated as are my adult dc and parents and pretty much everyone I know. Aside from me and my dds', everyone I know has had it-thankfully mildly, so the vaccines helped for sure. I work with the public and did so before vaccines and didn't get it then either.

Interestingly, I don't get flu or colds either and I would wonder about that-this was before covid.

I never get the flu, got colds all the time until they stopped about 10 years ago. Then I got covid - faxxed and boosted

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Interesting. We had mono a few years ago and none of us have gotten covid yet.

There are a bunch of long-term potential issues from EBV. Would be nice to get a benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:She doesn't want to join a study! I wonder if it would interest researchers, though. She's clearly been exposed repeatedly to covid, yet doesn't get it. Are there really millions of people like that? I don't know anyone who's been so exposed and never got it. I do know people who have not gotten it, but they are very careful, mostly stay at home. DD is a teacher!! It seems like she should have gotten covid by now!

Almost every family has one for whatever reason. Not that uncommon.

One out of a family of four doesn’t mean it is common. Just because you know multiple people who had this happen doesn’t mean that it’s not scientifically important. Scientists are looking at people who have been repeatedly exposed to Covid to see if there’s anything different about their genetics, immune system, etc. It helps with a better vaccine creation, treatment, etc.

I know people nw who are shocked, but happy, that they haven't caught COVID -- they've been exposed, they have immune issues, etc, etc, but still no COVID. Yes, they should be studied.

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Anonymous wrote:OK you lunatics. CDC says 58% of Americans have had COVID. That means 42% haven’t. That’s like 150 million people.

Might as well study people who haven’t been hit by lightning to see if they have some genetic predisposition to avoid lightning strikes.

This data was through the end of February. Anecdotally, I know tons of holdouts who got infected for the first time this spring. I’d be curious to know what it is now!

But, yes, there’s clearly some group of people who who are somehow naturally immune or for whom the vaccines still work really well. And there are studies going on.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of people who haven’t had Covid. Why are you shocked that her vaccines worked?

in our friend circle i would say 15-20% have had covid

Yeah but you use the term “friend circle” so you lose two credibility points.

If I gave out credibility points, you would not get any, because you criticized someone for using the term "Friend circle."

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe her doctor could test her for antibodies. Make sure it’s nucleocapsid not just spike or combined seniquant.

It may turn out she had it.

This. If she has negative nucleocapsid antibody test then it's very likely she never had it, but still not 100% true, because.. antibodies wane and also this is a threshold test ( pos/neg) vs. quantitative where they give you antibody count. I think there are more advanced tests that maybe exist somewhere, but the ones you can get prescribed aren't fool proof. PCR and especially rapid tests are not perfect. But if joining a study, I am sure they may want to do more testing

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. We had mono a few years ago and none of us have gotten covid yet.

There are a bunch of long-term potential issues from EBV. Would be nice to get a benefit.

we had mono as well a few years ago, and we still had Covid before vax was available with symptoms ranging from mild 1 day sniffles to 2 weeks of bad flu. I don't think EBV protects you from Covid, but Mono certainly does mimic a lot of Long Covid symptoms, it is essentially Long Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also possible that she has had an asymptomatic infection and had a false negative test.

That's what I was wondering, but how could you know? Native (the kind from natural infection) disappear after three or four months, I'm told. So, how could you find out if DD actually had covid? Or if she has some sort of natural immunity. I would think researchers would find it interesting to find out why some people just never get covid.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of people who haven’t had Covid. Why are you shocked that her vaccines worked?

I'm not shocked. Everyone I know who got covid got vaccinated and at least one booster. The vaccines didn't work for those people. DD had only the vaccine, no boosters, yet she's never gotten a positive test, never had any symptoms. Why? I think some researchers may want to know why. It might help others fend off covid. I got covid, so did DH, so did DS1 and DS2. But DD, no.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing special about her. The vaccine did it's job.

What an idiotic response!!

But the vaccine didn't "do its job" in all the other people I know -- dozens of them -- who got covid!!

There is some reason why my DD did not get covid, and it's not only the vaccine. Else none of us would have gotten it.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe her doctor could test her for antibodies. Make sure it’s nucleocapsid not just spike or combined seniquant.

It may turn out she had it.

What do those words mean? My doctor didn't even know how to test me for antibodies (I had some to the vaccine, but none showed up to the native covid).

DD has not been tested for antibodies. I've heard (on NPR, NYT, Atlantic, etc.) that antibodies fade away after a few months. T cells and B cells might be responsible for my DD's immunity, but there's no test for those, at least not outside research settings.

Many people have not gotten covid, but they are not in a classroom every day, surrounded by people who have gotten covid. DD has, yet no covid, despite repeated tests. I just think it's interesting, and I'm curious why. Prolly we'll never know, but I think the question is worth asking.

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Anonymous wrote:She doesn't want to join a study! I wonder if it would interest researchers, though. She's clearly been exposed repeatedly to covid, yet doesn't get it. Are there really millions of people like that? I don't know anyone who's been so exposed and never got it. I do know people who have not gotten it, but they are very careful, mostly stay at home. DD is a teacher!! It seems like she should have gotten covid by now!

Why did you title your thread "how to join a study" if she doesn't want to join a study?

I want her to join a study!

DD would probably join one if she were asked, but she doesn't want to get famous as one poster suggested. I'm the one who's curious about why DD has evaded covid. It might help to know to develop better vaccines, better methods of avoiding it. DD's' young and strong, so won't die if she gets covid, but older, sicker people may not be able to fight it off, even the milder variants. We need to know A LOT more about this virus!!

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Anonymous wrote:I really wonder how much of it has to do with if and when one had the MMR vaccine. They were studying it early on then no news ever came of it. It would explain a lot.

Link?

That's interesting. DD had only one MMR (she got very sick from it), so I asked her doctor to do titers instead of the second MMR, and her titers were extremely high, just from one MMR. She didn't get a second MMR.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of people who haven’t had Covid. Why are you shocked that her vaccines worked?

in our friend circle i would say 15-20% have had covid

I'm a pp who has not had it, I'm vaccinated as are my adult dc and parents and pretty much everyone I know. Aside from me and my dds', everyone I know has had it-thankfully mildly, so the vaccines helped for sure. I work with the public and did so before vaccines and didn't get it then either.

Interestingly, I don't get flu or colds either and I would wonder about that-this was before covid.

I never get the flu, got colds all the time until they stopped about 10 years ago. Then I got covid - faxxed and boosted

I've only been sick once in nearly two years -- with covid in January 2022. Not a single cold or any other illness since March 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. We had mono a few years ago and none of us have gotten covid yet.

There are a bunch of long-term potential issues from EBV. Would be nice to get a benefit.

Would be nice to KNOW. Really could make a difference to understand what makes someone immune to infection with covid.