Lab vs. mined diamond engagement ring

[Anonymous]

I would be ashamed to purchase a mined diamond. The poster who claims they can tell the difference appears to be extrapolating from their perception of their own jewelry but honestly even if you could tell the difference I wouldn’t want to be respected by people who think lan grown diamonds are “fake” which they aren’t but definition since they’re identical to mined ones chemically. Do you also calll farmed pearls fake?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a big fan of lab diamonds, though I’m not sure I would want it for my wedding set. That’s such a sentimental piece of jewelry, it was important to me that we go with actual diamonds. I would consider it for other pieces like a solitaire pendant or earrings.

When I was getting engaged (back in 2016), moissanite was the primary lab created alternative and it was far more price competitive than what you’re citing. Said differently, I don’t know that I would spend $10k on a 2 carat equivalent lab diamond. With moissanite, that was much closer to $2-4k? I can’t remember.

If you have the $20k to spend, I would get a diamond and go through a vendor you trust.

PP. I just went on Moissaniteco and a 2 carat equivalent round Forever One stone in a platinum is like $2k. So nope, I wouldn’t buy a lab diamond for $10k.

One other thing - in larger sizes, from what I remember, lab diamonds look more obviously like a diamond alternative. Not a huge deal, but know yourself and if this would embarrass you. Im all for passing off stones as mined diamonds, but if being “found out”’ would make you uncomfortable, it’s something to consider.

This is utter bs. There is no way to tell the difference between the two without expensive equipment that, at this point, only some jewelers have. Anyone who tells you they can see a difference is an absolute liar..

A lot of jewelers are going lab diamond only as it is too difficult to determine what they are buying. A lab diamond is exactly like a mined diamond. I have a lot of mined diamonds and take everything I buy over a certain price point to an independent appraiser. He didn't recognize my lab diamond as a lab. I took it to a jeweler with special equipment who could tell it was..

PP. From what I recall, moissanite has double refraction instead of single refraction like a mined diamond (google it. To be fair, I’m not sure this is super obvious in person.) Ms also have more rainbow sparkles than just white sparkles, which is another tell apparently. I’m in the market for some M earrings myself, so I’ve started some research to refresh my memory. These personally are not dealbreakers for me.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, as I pretty much love any stone that sparkles. I was just trying to let OP know that is she went with M, these have been common observations. And again, if she doesn’t care if people know she has a lab stone, then it really doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a big fan of lab diamonds, though I’m not sure I would want it for my wedding set. That’s such a sentimental piece of jewelry, it was important to me that we go with actual diamonds. I would consider it for other pieces like a solitaire pendant or earrings.

When I was getting engaged (back in 2016), moissanite was the primary lab created alternative and it was far more price competitive than what you’re citing. Said differently, I don’t know that I would spend $10k on a 2 carat equivalent lab diamond. With moissanite, that was much closer to $2-4k? I can’t remember.

If you have the $20k to spend, I would get a diamond and go through a vendor you trust.

PP. I just went on Moissaniteco and a 2 carat equivalent round Forever One stone in a platinum is like $2k. So nope, I wouldn’t buy a lab diamond for $10k.

One other thing - in larger sizes, from what I remember, lab diamonds look more obviously like a diamond alternative. Not a huge deal, but know yourself and if this would embarrass you. Im all for passing off stones as mined diamonds, but if being “found out”’ would make you uncomfortable, it’s something to consider.

Interesting. I haven’t heard that before and I’ve been doing a lot of research into lab diamonds. I’ll have to research that.

Lab diamonds aren’t that cheap in the super premium cut and quality I’d be seeking, I guess. I mean, you can definitely get an okay one for much cheaper. In either case, still a very substantial cost savings over mined. I’m sure other stones are lovely but I’d like the look and durability of a diamond.

I don't think this is possible...

[Anonymous]

Lab created is so fake, get a different stone if you are trying to save money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not spend $10k on a fake diamond. Got my engaging ring close to 20 years ago, and it was $25k for a 2 carat. Have diamonds gone down that much in value?

You clearly have no idea how lab diamonds are made. Lab diamonds aren't fake diamonds. It is the same process that happens in nature, just in a controlled environment. For all the technology it is a pretty slow process.

The lab diamond process isn't cheap. It is simply a supply and demand issue. The supply of natural diamonds is pretty thin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fake diamonds are a lot like fake designer bags. If you truly know diamonds, in the bigger stones you can tell the difference. Real diamonds are just more complex (less perfect) than fake ones. I have a 2.25 diamond engagement ring (real) and 2.0 fake earrings. You can tell the difference. So I end up wearing my real 1.0 real diamond earrings instead.

Lab diamonds are real diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Fun fact: The Carnegie building by Broad Branch Road NW nd Linnean Ave NW is more than a sledding destination. They are pioneers in synthetic diamonds.

https://casetext.com/case/carnegie-inst-washington-v-diamonds

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fake diamonds are a lot like fake designer bags. If you truly know diamonds, in the bigger stones you can tell the difference. Real diamonds are just more complex (less perfect) than fake ones. I have a 2.25 diamond engagement ring (real) and 2.0 fake earrings. You can tell the difference. So I end up wearing my real 1.0 real diamond earrings instead.

OP. In what way can you tell the difference? I have to admit I am confused by this, given they are graded the same and are supposed to be identical visually because they have the same chemical composition.

Most real diamonds that people can afford have flaws in them. If you look at them even with the naked eye you can see the flaws. Even "flawless" will have something in the stone that makes them unique in character. "Fake" diamonds are generally perfect. Like glass. My 2 carat fake diamond earrings look .... vacant, if you will.

The question is are you trying to pass off the fake as real. If so, I go back to the designer bag. As an example, someone who knows Birkin bags can spot a fake in an instant. If you don't really know Birkins, then if you see the basic design then you might not know the difference. So the question becomes, are you trying to impress people who don't know better? Which if fine, as long as you are not trying to impress people who do know the "product". No different than any "real" item, be it watches, handbags, diamonds.

And if you are not trying to pass off a fake diamond as real, then why get one at all? Why not do something differently fabulous instead. A gorgeous blue sapphire set off by smaller real diamonds, as an example.

Stop with the "fake". A lab diamond is a real diamond. The distinction here is lab diamond vs. mined diamond. Not real vs. fake.

Ultimately, you're just trying to justify wasting so much money on a clear stone.

[Anonymous]

I think that a lot of the people talking about "fake diamonds" just flat out don't know what a lab diamond is. A CZ is not a lab diamond. A moissanite is not a lab diamond. A lab diamond is a real diamond and no, you absolutely cannot tell the difference with a naked eye. That grandma PP doesn't know what she's talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that a lot of the people talking about "fake diamonds" just flat out don't know what a lab diamond is. A CZ is not a lab diamond. A moissanite is not a lab diamond. A lab diamond is a real diamond and no, you absolutely cannot tell the difference with a naked eye. That grandma PP doesn't know what she's talking about.

Like wild pearls versus cultured pearls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that a lot of the people talking about "fake diamonds" just flat out don't know what a lab diamond is. A CZ is not a lab diamond. A moissanite is not a lab diamond. A lab diamond is a real diamond and no, you absolutely cannot tell the difference with a naked eye. That grandma PP doesn't know what she's talking about.

+1

Lab diamonds are diamonds. They have the same molecular composition as mined diamonds, but not the same moral issues attached.

[Anonymous]

My understanding is that there are two different processes used to grow lab diamonds and one way (don’t remember which) is pretty hard environmentally. They both use “seeds” to start and I feel like one way might show the seed more. But yes, a lab diamond isn’t a simulant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that a lot of the people talking about "fake diamonds" just flat out don't know what a lab diamond is. A CZ is not a lab diamond. A moissanite is not a lab diamond. A lab diamond is a real diamond and no, you absolutely cannot tell the difference with a naked eye. That grandma PP doesn't know what she's talking about.

+1

Lab diamonds are diamonds. They have the same molecular composition as mined diamonds, but not the same moral issues attached.

I was coming here to say similar. A moissanite is a different type of stone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a big fan of lab diamonds, though I’m not sure I would want it for my wedding set. That’s such a sentimental piece of jewelry, it was important to me that we go with actual diamonds. I would consider it for other pieces like a solitaire pendant or earrings.

When I was getting engaged (back in 2016), moissanite was the primary lab created alternative and it was far more price competitive than what you’re citing. Said differently, I don’t know that I would spend $10k on a 2 carat equivalent lab diamond. With moissanite, that was much closer to $2-4k? I can’t remember.

If you have the $20k to spend, I would get a diamond and go through a vendor you trust.

PP. I just went on Moissaniteco and a 2 carat equivalent round Forever One stone in a platinum is like $2k. So nope, I wouldn’t buy a lab diamond for $10k.

One other thing - in larger sizes, from what I remember, lab diamonds look more obviously like a diamond alternative. Not a huge deal, but know yourself and if this would embarrass you. Im all for passing off stones as mined diamonds, but if being “found out”’ would make you uncomfortable, it’s something to consider.

This is utter bs. There is no way to tell the difference between the two without expensive equipment that, at this point, only some jewelers have. Anyone who tells you they can see a difference is an absolute liar..

A lot of jewelers are going lab diamond only as it is too difficult to determine what they are buying. A lab diamond is exactly like a mined diamond. I have a lot of mined diamonds and take everything I buy over a certain price point to an independent appraiser. He didn't recognize my lab diamond as a lab. I took it to a jeweler with special equipment who could tell it was..

PP. From what I recall, moissanite has double refraction instead of single refraction like a mined diamond (google it. To be fair, I’m not sure this is super obvious in person.) Ms also have more rainbow sparkles than just white sparkles, which is another tell apparently. I’m in the market for some M earrings myself, so I’ve started some research to refresh my memory. These personally are not dealbreakers for me.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, as I pretty much love any stone that sparkles. I was just trying to let OP know that is she went with M, these have been common observations. And again, if she doesn’t care if people know she has a lab stone, then it really doesn’t matter.

What part of "you can't tell a lab diamond from a mined diamond without equipment" do you not understand?

You also can't comprehend that lab diamonds are not moissanite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lab created is so fake, get a different stone if you are trying to save money

Lab created diamonds are not fake. They are exactly like mined diamonds. The people saying you can see a difference between lab created and mined diamonds are lying.

These posts are just incredibly stupid. There are clearly people on this thread with agendas.

Also don't get confused with moissanite. It is an entirely different stone and is not the same as a lab created diamond. Moissanite is not a diamond.