COVID at Colleges

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not into Covid hysteria and when my DD in college got in early February, i figured, great get it over with. She was vaccinated, boosted and generally healthy. Well she breezed through Covid with 1-2 days of not feeling great, but not as bad as she had been with the flu or strep, and then she was fine. Until she was not 10 days later. She texted me in the middle of the night saying she needed to go the hospital as she felt like she was dying. She went to the ER and sure enough diagnosed with pneumonia. 14 days, three doctor visits and one additional ER trip later and she was finally on the mend.

Just saying, it’s not just a cold. Missed a ton of classes which of course sucks too.

Yup, happens with the flu too. It's rare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a cold. Stop dramatizing this virus. Enough.

+1000

Take a deep breath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not into Covid hysteria and when my DD in college got in early February, i figured, great get it over with. She was vaccinated, boosted and generally healthy. Well she breezed through Covid with 1-2 days of not feeling great, but not as bad as she had been with the flu or strep, and then she was fine. Until she was not 10 days later. She texted me in the middle of the night saying she needed to go the hospital as she felt like she was dying. She went to the ER and sure enough diagnosed with pneumonia. 14 days, three doctor visits and one additional ER trip later and she was finally on the mend.

Just saying, it’s not just a cold. Missed a ton of classes which of course sucks too.

Sorry to hear that. Hope she’s doing well now and back to normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cornell is now up to 500 active student cases and 40 faculty only counting those who voluntarily test. They still require masks in classrooms but remove the mandate for the rest of campus recently.

You have to be more pointedly precise for the deniers on here.
That's 500 symptomatic cases in a young healthy population that is 97% vaccinated, 92% boosted, and wearing masks in classrooms.

Seriously, that’s nuts. I’m not a Covid-crazed CNN follower, but this is an important point. It’s not encouraging news, IMO.

[Anonymous]

College mandating boosters: https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/2021/12/14/what-colleges-require-covid-vaccine-booster-omicron/

FDA's Paul Offit: booster mandates "simply don't make sense" and are "particularly problematic in the university setting" https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/opinions-people-who-have-had-covid-19-don-t-need-three-vaccine-shots/ar-AATHndE

https://nocollegemandates.com/

[Anonymous]

Roll up your sleeves for a 4th booster, or will some of you wake up to the fact that boosters do not prevent transmission?

"In the fall, officials say, Americans of all ages, including anyone who gets a booster this spring, should get another shot." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/biden-second-booster-shot-older-americans.html

You know what comes next, a mandate for the 4th. If that is the recommendation, colleges will mandate again.

Seniors, choose your college carefully if this matters to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roll up your sleeves for a 4th booster, or will some of you wake up to the fact that boosters do not prevent transmission?

"In the fall, officials say, Americans of all ages, including anyone who gets a booster this spring, should get another shot." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/biden-second-booster-shot-older-americans.html

You know what comes next, a mandate for the 4th. If that is the recommendation, colleges will mandate again.

Seniors, choose your college carefully if this matters to you.

Who is saying they prevent transmission? It is hospitalization and serious illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not into Covid hysteria and when my DD in college got in early February, i figured, great get it over with. She was vaccinated, boosted and generally healthy. Well she breezed through Covid with 1-2 days of not feeling great, but not as bad as she had been with the flu or strep, and then she was fine. Until she was not 10 days later. She texted me in the middle of the night saying she needed to go the hospital as she felt like she was dying. She went to the ER and sure enough diagnosed with pneumonia. 14 days, three doctor visits and one additional ER trip later and she was finally on the mend.

Just saying, it’s not just a cold. Missed a ton of classes which of course sucks too.

Yup, happens with the flu too. It's rare.

No, that doesn't happen with the flu the same way that it is happening with COVID. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roll up your sleeves for a 4th booster, or will some of you wake up to the fact that boosters do not prevent transmission?

"In the fall, officials say, Americans of all ages, including anyone who gets a booster this spring, should get another shot." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/biden-second-booster-shot-older-americans.html

You know what comes next, a mandate for the 4th. If that is the recommendation, colleges will mandate again.

Seniors, choose your college carefully if this matters to you.

Who is saying they prevent transmission? It is hospitalization and serious illness.

A mandate only makes sense if there is benefit against transmission.

There is literally zero age-stratified data showing a benefit against severe disease for college students because they are already protected from severe disease by the initial series. The booster trial had no hospitalization or death in the placebo group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a cold. Stop dramatizing this virus. Enough.

+1000

Colleges that don't test don't find any covid, and those are often also the ones that don't have vaccine policies. People who are not worried about their own health or the health of those in their immediate circles, or who prioritize being able to opt out of vaccination, can choose one of those colleges. But they don't have the right to dismiss, on this thread or anywhere else, the suffering or the liabilities of others who want and need to plan for their own safety or the safety of those they love. There is no requirement to join the conversation if you don't want to talk about it.

I find Cornell's numbers to be worthy of attention and will be watching for information on local colleges, since low-precaution young adult behavior can literally show up in the wastewater monitoring before the rest of the community starts to see it.

[Anonymous]

So the it's a cold crowd would not give a second thought of having their Cornell kid take a bus full if Cornell kids for 5 hours and then hang out with an infant and grandparents? 500 kids tested positive this week and those are just the ones that tested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cornell is now up to 500 active student cases and 40 faculty only counting those who voluntarily test. They still require masks in classrooms but remove the mandate for the rest of campus recently.

Link?

Which variant? Do they know? This is a worrisome number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roll up your sleeves for a 4th booster, or will some of you wake up to the fact that boosters do not prevent transmission?

"In the fall, officials say, Americans of all ages, including anyone who gets a booster this spring, should get another shot." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/biden-second-booster-shot-older-americans.html

You know what comes next, a mandate for the 4th. If that is the recommendation, colleges will mandate again.

Seniors, choose your college carefully if this matters to you.

I'm vaxxed and so is DS, but I do not want him to get a booster. He's already had covid in January (we all did). I worry about the slight risk of heart problems among young makes who get the vaccine,. He now has an extremely low risk of getting covid after being both vaxxed and having a case of covid.

I don't know how to get around it because the college he wants to attend requires boosters. Maybe they'll back off by the fall? I hope so. I don't want my kid getting heart problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roll up your sleeves for a 4th booster, or will some of you wake up to the fact that boosters do not prevent transmission?

"In the fall, officials say, Americans of all ages, including anyone who gets a booster this spring, should get another shot." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/biden-second-booster-shot-older-americans.html

You know what comes next, a mandate for the 4th. If that is the recommendation, colleges will mandate again.

Seniors, choose your college carefully if this matters to you.

I'm vaxxed and so is DS, but I do not want him to get a booster. He's already had covid in January (we all did). I worry about the slight risk of heart problems among young makes who get the vaccine,. He now has an extremely low risk of getting covid after being both vaxxed and having a case of covid.

I don't know how to get around it because the college he wants to attend requires boosters. Maybe they'll back off by the fall? I hope so. I don't want my kid getting heart problems.

But you're not concerned about the heart problems associated with getting covid? (Delta didn't protect against Omicron, so no guarantee that his previous bout with covid will be protective.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roll up your sleeves for a 4th booster, or will some of you wake up to the fact that boosters do not prevent transmission?

"In the fall, officials say, Americans of all ages, including anyone who gets a booster this spring, should get another shot." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/biden-second-booster-shot-older-americans.html

You know what comes next, a mandate for the 4th. If that is the recommendation, colleges will mandate again.

Seniors, choose your college carefully if this matters to you.

I'm vaxxed and so is DS, but I do not want him to get a booster. He's already had covid in January (we all did). I worry about the slight risk of heart problems among young makes who get the vaccine,. He now has an extremely low risk of getting covid after being both vaxxed and having a case of covid.

I don't know how to get around it because the college he wants to attend requires boosters. Maybe they'll back off by the fall? I hope so. I don't want my kid getting heart problems.

But you're not concerned about the heart problems associated with getting covid? (Delta didn't protect against Omicron, so no guarantee that his previous bout with covid will be protective.)

The kid above already is vaxed AND also had COVID. A booster is not going to reduce his risk of severe disease from COVID any further.

More generally (pre Omicron), UK study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

Explained below vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myocarditis-stratified

1. It is now clear for men <40, dose 2 and dose 3 of Pfizer have more myocarditis than sars-cov-2 infection, and this is true for dose 1 and dose 2 of Moderna.

2. Pfizer boosters (Dose 3) have more myocarditis for men <40 than infection.

3. Myocarditis post infection is more common as you get older, in contrast with myocarditis post vaccination, which is more common as you are younger (reverse gradients)

But the truth is STILL WORSE than these data.

1. If the authors fixed the denominator for viral infection (i.e. used sero-prevalance), it would look even worse

2. If the authors separate men 16-24 from 12-15 and 25-40, it would likely look worst in 16-24 age group.