How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga academically, culturally, behavior

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Anonymous wrote:Does your child play a sport? I wouldn’t want my kid anywhere near the athletics department at St Johns

Why not?

There’s several threads here and articles in the post about the baseball coach, his atrocious pay to play scheme, and the resulting loss of an entire group of elite players. That he’s still a part of the athletic department would give me pause even if I didn’t have a ball player. But this recent article about how a female wrestler was treated, and the reasoning for why, would solidify my no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/02/17/st-johns-wrestling-tried-welcome-girl-its-team-this-season-school-said-no/

Sometimes people come on here to bash schools and coaches for no reason. That is not the case with SJC and its baseball and boys’ soccer programs. This thread and the linked articles were so incredibly upsetting to read: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/828872.page

I can’t believe the athletics Department allows this corruption to continue, and the wrestling article PP posted is eye-opening on that front as well (“alpha males”??). The wrestling coach sounds fantastic though. I wonder if he’ll stick around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

Maybe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does your child play a sport? I wouldn’t want my kid anywhere near the athletics department at St Johns

Why not?

There’s several threads here and articles in the post about the baseball coach, his atrocious pay to play scheme, and the resulting loss of an entire group of elite players. That he’s still a part of the athletic department would give me pause even if I didn’t have a ball player. But this recent article about how a female wrestler was treated, and the reasoning for why, would solidify my no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/02/17/st-johns-wrestling-tried-welcome-girl-its-team-this-season-school-said-no/

Sometimes people come on here to bash schools and coaches for no reason. That is not the case with SJC and its baseball and boys’ soccer programs. This thread and the linked articles were so incredibly upsetting to read: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/828872.page

I can’t believe the athletics Department allows this corruption to continue, and the wrestling article PP posted is eye-opening on that front as well (“alpha males”??). The wrestling coach sounds fantastic though. I wonder if he’ll stick around.

+1. Top reason why my high level baseball player didn’t apply to SJC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

Maybe.

Sounds like sour grapes to me bc what else fix your fingers to even type and go back and forth. Seek therapy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

Maybe.

Then pls apply elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Personally - I think SJC is better for our son who is somewhat shy and has had issues with the jock boy group think before. The presence of girls and the more low key school personality feed into that. However, I know plenty of relatives and sons of friends who have loved their time at Gonzaga. But the ones who liked it best had the personality to really "buy in" to the school.

[Anonymous]

I too wonder about the atmosphere at both schools. Son is basing his decision due to a sport. He is smart straight A student very High HSPT. He shadowed both schools can't make up his mind. school. I am leaning towards SJC due to coed and can send sister hopefully next year but he thinks chances better at Gonzaga for his sport. Though the posts I see both schools are tough to make team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I too wonder about the atmosphere at both schools. Son is basing his decision due to a sport. He is smart straight A student very High HSPT. He shadowed both schools can't make up his mind. school. I am leaning towards SJC due to coed and can send sister hopefully next year but he thinks chances better at Gonzaga for his sport. Though the posts I see both schools are tough to make team.

Share the sport. People may be able to give you some insight.

[Anonymous]

basketball is the sport he plays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

Maybe.

I would be more worried about going to school with rich kids - they tend to get in more trouble than poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

Maybe.[/quo
I would be more worried about going to school with rich kids - they tend to get in more trouble than poor kids.

Doubtful.

[Anonymous]

There's something I learned from college admissions, with all of its merit opportunities, wait lists, special programs, etc. It's "go where they love you the most." Has one school seemed to really, really want your son more than the other? That may make the decision easier. FWIW, my son went to SJC, a neighbor's son went to Gonzaga, and they are now at the same Jesuit university. Maybe your son could ask for another shadow day at both schools to help him decide. Or maybe he needs permission to go with his gut instinct. Does he think one parent prefers him at one place over the other? Whatever you do, let him drive the decision. These kids generally sense what is best for them. Good luck to you and your son!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does St. John's compare to Gonzaga as far as academics, culture, student environment and behavior. Distance I don't care. Can get my kid to school either way just really wanting to know how the two school compare. Behavior attitude of the students. My Son was accepted to both have heard lots about Gonzaga boys gone wild type of behavior. Has anyone experienced that? Than hear kids at St. Johns are stuck up and not welcoming. Thoughts?

Re: St. John's, how can it be unwelcoming when it starts in 9th grade and every single student in the freshman class is therefore new to the school?

I thought St. Johns was for poor kids.

Would that be a problem for you?

Maybe.

I would be more worried about going to school with rich kids - they tend to get in more trouble than poor kids.

This is spoken by someone who has never had their kids go to school that is 45% FARMs. They trouble at our public MS and the friend groups and their parents is really troubling. I had the whole 'diversity is great' attitude and I don't regret my children's elementary experience--but the violence and neglect and trouble that is happening now in MS is much greater than anything I have ever encountered at my other kid's private.