Eastern middle school magnet

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Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

No, the person is racist not blunt and she is wrong.

No, they are correct. There was more teenage pregnancy in that middle school than in my kids high school. The language was also worse than my kids were exposed to in high school. The admin was overwhelmed with getting food to poorer families instead of teaching when they first went virtual.
Not everything is racist. Those problems are more consistent with low income.

Pyle says: hold my beer

Maybe?
Some of the stuff my kid repeated from the out of control lunch room at Eastern in particular sparked that comment.

[Anonymous]

It’s kind of sad the people trying to justify Easterns failure to teach. One teacher just stopped showing up. No one is saying it’s not true, just that i shouldn’t complain about it.
So let me make it perfectly clear - Yes, i am complaining about their failure to teach at a school. I’m sorry that’s hard for you to comprehend. I’m sure you’ll just tell me I’m not welcome there and to stay away. Ok.

I'm sorry you're sad. Do you need a tissue?

And if I read the thread correctly, it seems like you and/or other PPs are complaining about Eastern's "seedy" location amongst the dregs of society. But to the extent you're also complaining about their failure to teach during the pandemic, I don't know what to tell you. Yup. Teaching during the pandemic wasn't ideal. Some teachers weren't able to cope. Schools tried to do the best they could for their kids, and that looked different depending on the needs of their student body. IIRC, other schools (even in the non-"seedy" parts of MoCo) also struggled with virtual learning. Still not going to be upset that my school prioritized feeding kids, but you do you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

No, the person is racist not blunt and she is wrong.

No, they are correct. There was more teenage pregnancy in that middle school than in my kids high school. The language was also worse than my kids were exposed to in high school. The admin was overwhelmed with getting food to poorer families instead of teaching when they first went virtual.
Not everything is racist. Those problems are more consistent with low income.

OH DEAR GOD NO NOT FEEDING POOR FAMILIES!!!

My kid's ES was the same way, and I was goddamn proud to be a parent at that school during the pandemic. I used it as an example for my kid of how a community takes care of its members. It was a fantastic lesson for him to learn.

Ok if they’re also teaching my kid. They’re weren’t.
How long are you ok with forgoing an education to be a food pantry?

As long as there are kids who are hungry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

I suspect you’ve never seen actual slums. We who live in the “slummy” parts of the county are happy our kids will not have to be exposed to yours.

But yet you embrace the bussing program that sticks higher SES kids in eastern simply to Balance what? Give your kids hope. Don't worry, your kids won't be exposed to mine but I know who they will exposed to, GL with your choices.

I bet you don't drive though the neighborhoods at night with your wife and kids even though you are neighbors. Living near them doesn't buy you credit if you simple pretend they don't exist and hope you don't come across them. You think you don't live in Langley Park because you have a Silver Spring address?

Wow, PP, judge much? I've lived in more than one location on this side of the county and am proud and happy here. I've seen posts on this board where people work very hard to disparage Silver Spring in comparison with Bethesda, Potomac, and other parts of the west county. Others have pointed out that there seems to be a general unwillingness to accept that things could ever go decently well in an area that is less wealthy. I and others here are glad to testify that they can. And I hope you are as happy with your DC's current school arrangement as I am with mine.

[Anonymous]

I disagree with basically everything that critical PP is saying except for the fact that there were some shockingly checked out, incompetent, unempathetic teachers during virtual learning far beyond what we heard about at other MCPS schools.

At the wealthier schools the administration might have had more time for oversight but they had their hands full with many kids who just never logged on and they had to individually try to track down many of those families. It's difficult to balance that with the expectations of magnet parents like you.

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Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

No, the person is racist not blunt and she is wrong.

No, they are correct. There was more teenage pregnancy in that middle school than in my kids high school. The language was also worse than my kids were exposed to in high school. The admin was overwhelmed with getting food to poorer families instead of teaching when they first went virtual.
Not everything is racist. Those problems are more consistent with low income.

OH DEAR GOD NO NOT FEEDING POOR FAMILIES!!!

My kid's ES was the same way, and I was goddamn proud to be a parent at that school during the pandemic. I used it as an example for my kid of how a community takes care of its members. It was a fantastic lesson for him to learn.

Ok if they’re also teaching my kid. They’re weren’t.
How long are you ok with forgoing an education to be a food pantry?

I suspect this issue is moot for the most part. That part of the pandemic is now over and schools are no longer going wholesale into virtual.

This is incredibly naive. Learning loss is going to be a big problem in this area for quite a while.

You need to reread my comment. I'm talking about the likelihood of virtual instruction being undermined by the need to put in processes to distribute food to students being moot. Presumably the admin was scrambling to put the processes in place, but those processes have been worked out since then. Regardless, we're no longer likely to go wholesale into virtual so for OP's child, who has yet to enter the program, the issue of quality of virtual instruction vs. feeding other students is moot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

The area is not that bad. It's like a regular working class area and that's only one small part of the catchment area. There are also a number of really cute MC neighborhoods with nice detached suburban homes. What are you even talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

No, the person is racist not blunt and she is wrong.

No, they are correct. There was more teenage pregnancy in that middle school than in my kids high school. The language was also worse than my kids were exposed to in high school. The admin was overwhelmed with getting food to poorer families instead of teaching when they first went virtual.
Not everything is racist. Those problems are more consistent with low income.

Pyle says: hold my beer

DCUM: But wait! A page has gone by without bashing W schools!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

The area is not that bad. It's like a regular working class area and that's only one small part of the catchment area. There are also a number of really cute MC neighborhoods with nice detached suburban homes. What are you even talking about?

Now you’re in straight out denial.
Look at the FARMS rate. Hard to take this post seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

No, the person is racist not blunt and she is wrong.

No, they are correct. There was more teenage pregnancy in that middle school than in my kids high school. The language was also worse than my kids were exposed to in high school. The admin was overwhelmed with getting food to poorer families instead of teaching when they first went virtual.
Not everything is racist. Those problems are more consistent with low income.

OH DEAR GOD NO NOT FEEDING POOR FAMILIES!!!

My kid's ES was the same way, and I was goddamn proud to be a parent at that school during the pandemic. I used it as an example for my kid of how a community takes care of its members. It was a fantastic lesson for him to learn.

Ok if they’re also teaching my kid. They’re weren’t.
How long are you ok with forgoing an education to be a food pantry?

As long as there are kids who are hungry.

There are always needy kids in the world.
What a dumb answer.

[Anonymous]

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OH DEAR GOD NO NOT FEEDING POOR FAMILIES!!!

My kid's ES was the same way, and I was goddamn proud to be a parent at that school during the pandemic. I used it as an example for my kid of how a community takes care of its members. It was a fantastic lesson for him to learn.

Ok if they’re also teaching my kid. They’re weren’t.
How long are you ok with forgoing an education to be a food pantry?

As long as there are kids who are hungry.
There are always needy kids in the world.
What a dumb answer.

No, the question was how long I am OK with feeding students potentially taking some priority and energy away from other educational activities. My answer is that I am always OK with that. If my own DCs need more educating, I can provide that myself. But the schools are better equipped to organize aid to families in need than I am by myself, so my willingness to accept a potential division of the school's energy is a small and limited form of help that I can provide to others who have a tougher day-to-day than I do. My DCs will eventually learn what they need to learn to go to college and do decently well, pandemic or not, hungry classmates or not, imperfections in MCPS or not. Their schools will do what they can, and so will spouse and I.

[Anonymous]

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OH DEAR GOD NO NOT FEEDING POOR FAMILIES!!!

My kid's ES was the same way, and I was goddamn proud to be a parent at that school during the pandemic. I used it as an example for my kid of how a community takes care of its members. It was a fantastic lesson for him to learn.

Ok if they’re also teaching my kid. They’re weren’t.
How long are you ok with forgoing an education to be a food pantry?

As long as there are kids who are hungry.
There are always needy kids in the world.
What a dumb answer.

No, the question was how long I am OK with feeding students potentially taking some priority and energy away from other educational activities. My answer is that I am always OK with that. If my own DCs need more educating, I can provide that myself. But the schools are better equipped to organize aid to families in need than I am by myself, so my willingness to accept a potential division of the school's energy is a small and limited form of help that I can provide to others who have a tougher day-to-day than I do. My DCs will eventually learn what they need to learn to go to college and do decently well, pandemic or not, hungry classmates or not, imperfections in MCPS or not. Their schools will do what they can, and so will spouse and I.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What is it like to feel like you're being "real" and "fair" and not know you sound like a complete asshole?

Sounding like and A-hole and being wrong are two different things. I know the truth triggers many people and acknowledging the truth doesn't mean I am endorsing the injustice of it all. Also few people who go back to their home will be honest with the % that reality played into their decision. I suspect most people who claim commute or local friends are really thinking a portion of this.

This person was blunt but they’re not wrong. It pulls from a terrible area and the admin isn’t great. I didn’t pull my child out but I sure wish I would have. My kid did virtual while at Eastern and it was a shitshow.

The area is not that bad. It's like a regular working class area and that's only one small part of the catchment area. There are also a number of really cute MC neighborhoods with nice detached suburban homes. What are you even talking about?

Now you’re in straight out denial.
Look at the FARMS rate. Hard to take this post seriously.

Huh? Everything the PP said is accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

How many racist dog whistles can you combine into one post? PP attempts to find out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the school is in/near a really slummy part of the county. Drive a few blocks to piney branch and university and see for your self. It is one of the worst areas in the DC metro region and those kids go to Eastern. They have to go somewhere and they are not all bad but people need to ask if the crazy commute and exposure for their kids is worth it for the privilege of propping up the test score of a very seedy area. I dare a perspective magnet parent to drive though Knob Hill, Long Branch Garland or Quebec terrace at night and ask your self if that peer group is worth a fancy text book in middle school. There is a reason they put carrot programs that attract high flyers in schools like eastern or Blair which is near by on the same road as well.

If you do I suspect you will find your answer

What a silly take. I have a 7th grade son there. When kids leave, and it’s not often, it’s because it’s very challenging and some of the teachers are not at all forgiving. Not because there are some kids in their gym class who live in section 8 housing.

There are a lot of reasons kids leave. #1 reason I think is location and long bus ride. The “challenging” curriculum was oversold to me given the middle school we are zoned to.
I didn’t write that post, but honestly I wish someone would have told me this. If you are proud of this area, then share why you like it instead of being so defensive. Again, it could have been phrased nicer, but that poster isn’t wrong.

Ok - I'm the PP who lives a few blocks from Eastern MS. The people who live here are very community-centered, welcoming and supportive. They're also diverse, but not just in the "oh, look at all the brown people!" sense -- they're diverse in terms of incomes, backgrounds, religious beliefs, etc. People here are focused on their kids, but no one is cutting throats to get to the best, most exclusive PSAT tutor. They have a bit more perspective. The kids have the same problems all kids have, but they're not swimming in disposable income, so that kind of pressure doesn't exist. Generally speaking, I've found my neighbors to value community service and involvement, and they instill that in their kids. It's the kind of area where people are out walking in the evening, stopping to chat with neighbors, comparing gardening tips, etc.

However, if you feel that strongly about our area, by all means stay away. We don't need you, thx.

I also live in the long branch neighborhood and I completely agree. I would also add that I love that you can walk bike or easily travel to grocery stores/library/parks/nature trails/and downtown Silver Spring.

I do not feel unsafe driving alone at night either.