Math 7 Honors question

[Anonymous]

It is written in the TJ website that they need to be enrolled in Algebra 1 honors in 8th grade in order to qualify for TJ admission. I confirmed from the admission office too. My DC could not get Algebra 1 in 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the pre prerequisite in 8th grade to opt for algebra I honors in order to be eligible to apply for TJ. Or is the option for TJ non existent for kids who did not qualify to take algebra I hons in 7th grade?

As far as I know, all 8th graders can take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, regardless of whether they took Math 7 or Math 7 H. But I think that Algebra 1 H has Math 7 H as a prerequisite.

If we go back to TJ admissions the way it was, chances are small that a child that doesn’t take Algebra 1 in 7th will qualify, if you look at the math sequence for kids that were admitted.

DP. I think it is open enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the pre prerequisite in 8th grade to opt for algebra I honors in order to be eligible to apply for TJ. Or is the option for TJ non existent for kids who did not qualify to take algebra I hons in 7th grade?

As far as I know, all 8th graders can take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, regardless of whether they took Math 7 or Math 7 H. But I think that Algebra 1 H has Math 7 H as a prerequisite.

If we go back to TJ admissions the way it was, chances are small that a child that doesn’t take Algebra 1 in 7th will qualify, if you look at the math sequence for kids that were admitted.

DP. I think it is open enrollment.

+1. Both of these sequences are open enrollment for 6th/7th/8th.

Regular or advanced 6th grade math/ M7H/Alg I Honors
Regular 6th grade math/Math 7/Algebra I Honors

Many kids jump up from regular 6th grade math to M7H. Many kids also jump up from regular math 7 to Algebra I Honors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is written in the TJ website that they need to be enrolled in Algebra 1 honors in 8th grade in order to qualify for TJ admission. I confirmed from the admission office too. My DC could not get Algebra 1 in 7th grade.

In order to get into Algebra 1 in 7th grade, your child has to be in AAP, so they can take the IAAT and get over 91 percentile, and pass advance on their math SOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is written in the TJ website that they need to be enrolled in Algebra 1 honors in 8th grade in order to qualify for TJ admission. I confirmed from the admission office too. My DC could not get Algebra 1 in 7th grade.

In order to get into Algebra 1 in 7th grade, your child has to be in AAP, so they can take the IAAT and get over 91 percentile, and pass advance on their math SOL.

Not true. In order to take Algebra in 7th your kid has to be in Advanced Math or AAP. The kids in Advanced Math use the same math curriculum as the LIV kids and take the IAAT as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is written in the TJ website that they need to be enrolled in Algebra 1 honors in 8th grade in order to qualify for TJ admission. I confirmed from the admission office too. My DC could not get Algebra 1 in 7th grade.

In order to get into Algebra 1 in 7th grade, your child has to be in AAP, so they can take the IAAT and get over 91 percentile, and pass advance on their math SOL.

Not true. In order to take Algebra in 7th your kid has to be in Advanced Math or AAP. The kids in Advanced Math use the same math curriculum as the LIV kids and take the IAAT as well.

True, if they're in Advanced Math in 6th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the pre prerequisite in 8th grade to opt for algebra I honors in order to be eligible to apply for TJ. Or is the option for TJ non existent for kids who did not qualify to take algebra I hons in 7th grade?

As far as I know, all 8th graders can take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, regardless of whether they took Math 7 or Math 7 H. But I think that Algebra 1 H has Math 7 H as a prerequisite.

If we go back to TJ admissions the way it was, chances are small that a child that doesn’t take Algebra 1 in 7th will qualify, if you look at the math sequence for kids that were admitted.

DP. I think it is open enrollment.

+1. Both of these sequences are open enrollment for 6th/7th/8th.

Regular or advanced 6th grade math/ M7H/Alg I Honors
Regular 6th grade math/Math 7/Algebra I Honors

Many kids jump up from regular 6th grade math to M7H. Many kids also jump up from regular math 7 to Algebra I Honors.

Is it difficult academically for kids to go from regular 6th gr math to Math 7 to algebra 1 Honors (in 8th grade)?
Our base HS does not offer Algebra 1 Honors in 9th grade in person. If student wants to take it they have to take it online which I don’t think is ideal and many don’t do that.

[Anonymous]

I am the pp that asked about prerequisites for TJ.
So my DD was in AAP LVLIV from 3rd grade. Has mostly got 4s on her math report card and advance pass in math every year.
She is interested in TJ. Following my advice she did not prep for the IAAT and did not get through she scored at the 84th.
I feel like I ruined her chances.
To give you perspective she has sound math fundamentals and is already doing algebra. She was slow at the test and left many questions unanswered.
I also advised her against marking answers randomly for the ones couldn’t solve as we won’t know actually how much she got.
She has done well on math Olympiad that school conducted where as peers prepping for IAAT not so much.

Earlier someone posted that in the previous selection process a kid did not stand a chance to get into TJ if they did not take algebra I hons in 7th grade.
So my question: Is the new selection process is here to stay? Or after the lawsuit is it going back to how it was before.
Are there any other ways to take algebra I hons outside school in the 7th or geometry outside school before applying for TJ. Would like to add that my DD likes competition math like Olympiad.

TIA

[Anonymous]

That was terrible advice on the test, PP. Except in cases where there is negative grading, it is always part of test taking strategy to guess on the questions you can’t answer, or when you run out of time. Odds are, there would be at least a few questions that would have been answerable, so your 20-25% chance of being right by luck kind of offsets that.

[Anonymous]

If last years process is used for admissions your daughter will be eligible. Under the old system she would not be likely to be accepted.

How has she done on the SOLs? Does she always pass advanced? If she has a regular track record of passing advanced and doing well in class you might be able to ignore the IAAT but an 84th percentile is not all that close to the 91rst percentile that they are looking for. Try talking to her teacher and seeing what they say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If last years process is used for admissions your daughter will be eligible. Under the old system she would not be likely to be accepted.

How has she done on the SOLs? Does she always pass advanced? If she has a regular track record of passing advanced and doing well in class you might be able to ignore the IAAT but an 84th percentile is not all that close to the 91rst percentile that they are looking for. Try talking to her teacher and seeing what they say.

Every year consistently has advanced pass and overall math is 4 100% of the time. Sometimes subsections of also all 4s in the math on the report card.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If last years process is used for admissions your daughter will be eligible. Under the old system she would not be likely to be accepted.

How has she done on the SOLs? Does she always pass advanced? If she has a regular track record of passing advanced and doing well in class you might be able to ignore the IAAT but an 84th percentile is not all that close to the 91rst percentile that they are looking for. Try talking to her teacher and seeing what they say.

Every year consistently has advanced pass and overall math is 4 100% of the time. Sometimes subsections of also all 4s in the math on the report card.

Talk to her Teacher and see if there is a way forward. There is a logic for requiring the IAAT but they do look at other indicators.