Is there an impending food shortage coming?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We really screwed up immigration and Covid and now things are coming home to roost.

I support immigration, and my parents were immigrants. But take it up with the CEO's who don't want to pay Americans a living wage.

That just becomes more inflationary. Vicious cycle when the work force is stretched. I am all for a living wage, but it won’t change the food shortage. We need more workers. From other countries and from the US who are not sick.

You say we need more workers, but you don't think paying them a living wage will change things?

Where do you think food comes from, a magic wand?

The chain is broken, because people are sick of being paid peanuts with bad/no benefits, for backbreaking work. The entire chain is broken - from the pickers to the grocery workers. Treat them better, and the workers will come. But hey CEO's, might need to dial back on your yacht or summer home.

We do not have enough workers in the US. We need immigrants. And we need people who aren’t sick.

LOL you have no idea. Do you work in the grocery industry? Because I do. The people are there, there are plenty of workers, but they're fed up because of low pay and crappy conditions.

Fes up pp, you just want cheap slave labor, essentially.

[Anonymous]

Bird flu also making its way to North America.

[Anonymous]

Assume all the unvaxxed in the red states, who are mostly making crap wages,.won't be able to produce as much when they are sick with Omicron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We really screwed up immigration and Covid and now things are coming home to roost.

I support immigration, and my parents were immigrants. But take it up with the CEO's who don't want to pay Americans a living wage.

That just becomes more inflationary. Vicious cycle when the work force is stretched. I am all for a living wage, but it won’t change the food shortage. We need more workers. From other countries and from the US who are not sick.

You say we need more workers, but you don't think paying them a living wage will change things?

Where do you think food comes from, a magic wand?

The chain is broken, because people are sick of being paid peanuts with bad/no benefits, for backbreaking work. The entire chain is broken - from the pickers to the grocery workers. Treat them better, and the workers will come. But hey CEO's, might need to dial back on your yacht or summer home.

There’s another option which is increasing automation but so far in the US it’s been cheaper for many food industries at scale to rely on labor. Either way, I would expect prices to rise, quality to decrease, or scarcity.

[Anonymous]

Yes there will be. Google Canada trucker mandates. Canada about to lose 25% of their truckers due to vax mandated checking at border crossings. We get the majority of our nitrogen from Canada. Nitrogen is the primary component of fertilizer. Fertilizer prices already at all time highs - they are going to skyrocket even further and this will impact crop supplies

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there will be. Google Canada trucker mandates. Canada about to lose 25% of their truckers due to vax mandated checking at border crossings. We get the majority of our nitrogen from Canada. Nitrogen is the primary component of fertilizer. Fertilizer prices already at all time highs - they are going to skyrocket even further and this will impact crop supplies

So we should buy stock in Mosaic Co. and CF Industries?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think I'm going to rent a cow for the year. Getting hard to find milk in the grocery store.

Plenty of milk at every grocery store I’ve been to in the last 2 weeks.

No milk at Safeway on Arlington Road in Bethesda yesterday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think I'm going to rent a cow for the year. Getting hard to find milk in the grocery store.

Plenty of milk at every grocery store I’ve been to in the last 2 weeks.

No milk at Safeway on Arlington Road in Bethesda yesterday.

None at Hungerford Dr Giant on Friday am. Saturday they had only 1% Lactose Free.

[Anonymous]

I'm in urban New England. Monday morning report, my local limited selection discount grocery store was packed to the gills. Still no small mangos, kcups were limited, and so were individual frozen pizzas, but produce was fully stocked, as was meat and dairy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in urban New England. Monday morning report, my local limited selection discount grocery store was packed to the gills. Still no small mangos, kcups were limited, and so were individual frozen pizzas, but produce was fully stocked, as was meat and dairy

No mangos?! I expect my mangos in Maine in February, dammit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in urban New England. Monday morning report, my local limited selection discount grocery store was packed to the gills. Still no small mangos, kcups were limited, and so were individual frozen pizzas, but produce was fully stocked, as was meat and dairy

Same. I shop at Market Basket which is very popular in Massachusetts. Missing a few things but full of food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in urban New England. Monday morning report, my local limited selection discount grocery store was packed to the gills. Still no small mangos, kcups were limited, and so were individual frozen pizzas, but produce was fully stocked, as was meat and dairy

My HT store in Rockville bizarrely had plenty of mangoes but very little of anything else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in urban New England. Monday morning report, my local limited selection discount grocery store was packed to the gills. Still no small mangos, kcups were limited, and so were individual frozen pizzas, but produce was fully stocked, as was meat and dairy

No mangos?! I expect my mangos in Maine in February, dammit.

Just reporting, my friend. I would've bought mangos but I don't buy kcups or frozen pizza but was keeping an eye out for any empty sections. I've been noticing people posting pictures of half full shelves with #bareshelvesbiden, like the apocalypse is coming because you could only get salted caramel or vanilla coffee mate but not hazelnut.

[Anonymous]

I have some slight connections with food production industry. I expect short-term shortages of certain things as they need to shut down production lines due to labor shortages. Less selection/variety or weird one-off shortages.

But long term I am super worried about the fact that we live in a country that doesn’t produce much of our food, relies on underpaid labor and government subsidies that are inconsistent with our otherwise market economy, has a lot of potential hitches in the supply chain, and doesn’t seem to be accounting for the changing climate. It’s all very concerning.

[Anonymous]

Who the hell eats mangos?